I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped

[two_bit_score]

The Green energy movement will bankrupt this once great country. Once we hit 50 trillion, we are a dead carcass. We aint far.

Social media, used for evil & pernicious reasons, will destroy this country‘s soul.

No argument on any of that. I do see a lot of people shunning EV's and I hope their numbers increase.

 

[two_bit_score]

After my experience with Prop 187, I laugh when I hear it is your "patriotic duty" to vote.

Thank you!

I don't want people who are uninformed to vote. Telling people 'I don't care how you vote, just go vote' is the stupidest thing anyone can say. I will admire the dumba** who is willing to stay home if he doesn't have enough sense to educate himself before voting. But I will aslo try my absolute best to get that person to vote the way I vote. I will make him my friend, I will help him, educate him and do my best to turn him into a solid educated voter. And once he is I will do my best to make sure he votes. It's my duty.

I firmly believe a citizen cannot do his duty and be an idle spectator. I also believe we cannot, ever, ever, ever give up.

 

[plowhog]

I also believe we cannot, ever, ever, ever give up.

Test that out by moving to California.

 

[two_bit_score]

Test that out by moving to California.

Even in Texas it can be a challenge to maintain the attitude that one simply CANNOT give up. But there is really NO option. I will not move to Cali or anywhere else. I will encourage others to stand up and claim where they live as their reason to be active and vote their informed convictions.

It's smart to be aware of the situation and circumstances that need improvement where you are and sometimes it can seem hopeless but once you give up you lose.

I know that there is no other Texas to move to.

 

[Richard001]

Thank you!

I don't want people who are uninformed to vote. Telling people 'I don't care how you vote, just go vote' is the stupidest thing anyone can say. I will admire the dumba** who is willing to stay home if he doesn't have enough sense to educate himself before voting. But I will aslo try my absolute best to get that person to vote the way I vote. I will make him my friend, I will help him, educate him and do my best to turn him into a solid educated voter. And once he is I will do my best to make sure he votes. It's my duty.

I firmly believe a citizen cannot do his duty and be an idle spectator. I also believe we cannot, ever, ever, ever give up.

That, and the fact that studies show that the majority of adults 30 and under get their news from Tic-Toc. That is enough to scare anyone.

 

[plowhog]

But there is really NO option.

I somewhat do not agree that choosing not to play in a rigged game is tantamount to quitting.

Some quick math reminded me of the enormous amount of tax dollars I was contributing to a system that spends it in ways I oppose. Like expensive benefits for classes of people who never contributed a dime in taxes into our system. And the realization that once a program starts, it only grows to become more financially hungry over time. Needing even more tax $$ from people like me.

So-- I chose to move. Now my tax contributions go to a system that is more aligned with me. Not even close to perfectly aligned, but the number of things that are done which I find objectionable is measurably less.

 

[3930dave]

For me the clown world started with Prop 187 in California. The voters, in an election, chose to deny government benefits to illegal immigrants.

Those in support of such benefits had seen their impending defeat, so they went shopping to find a "friendly" judge. The day after the proposition was enacted, the friendly judge deemed the will of the voters to be unconstitutional. That threw it into the court system. Except it never got fought. The CA governor, who wanted such benefits, would not allow the CA state attorneys to work on the case. Pulled any funding for that. So the voter-enacted new law would never survive, first deemed unconstitutional, then killed by CA governor with feel-good policies who wanted the benefits to flow.

Someone wrote above that similar things have happened with electric vehicle subsidies. I have seen this as well-- the will of the people ignored by officials who feel that pushing electric or green is simply what the taxpayers must fund, regardless of need or popularity.

I can empathize. I won't pollute this thread with references to various oversight and judicial abuses going on in Kanada - as it's endemic to most "advanced"/Western countries today.

They have forgotten, who is supposed to be serving who.

Rgds, D.

 

[Hay Dude]

That, and the fact that studies show that the majority of adults 30 and under get their news from Tic-Toc. That is enough to scare anyone.

That is bad. But I’m here to tell you that Tick Tok allows all points of view to be shared.
Its actually probably better than mainstream media news.

 

[Williy]

I have been hearing that Trump won the vote for President
but as you can see criminal crooked pea brain is still in office
screwing up the country. per brain is so crooked I do believe
they will have to screw him in the ground to bury him!!!!!!!!!

willy

 

[shooterdon]

Kenny Rogers song

You got to know when to fold, know when to fold them.

I folded and left Canada in 1995. I saw I country that did not fit my values going ever closer to stupity. I was correct.

I am now a US citizen, and feel the same way. But I am 73 now. Cannot fold and go elsewhere. I am prepared for things to get ugly…very ugly.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

It’s a fallen world. All is going precisely as prophesied. He overcame however. This place, isn’t the destination.

 

[two_bit_score]

I somewhat do not agree that choosing not to play in a rigged game is tantamount to quitting.

Some quick math reminded me of the enormous amount of tax dollars I was contributing to a system that spends it in ways I oppose. Like expensive benefits for classes of people who never contributed a dime in taxes into our system. And the realization that once a program starts, it only grows to become more financially hungry over time. Needing even more tax $$ from people like me.

So-- I chose to move. Now my tax contributions go to a system that is more aligned with me. Not even close to perfectly aligned, but the number of things that are done which I find objectionable is measurably less.

Two things. My view. Take it or not. WE aren't that far apart. Semantics mostly. You are focused on the micro view, naturally, and I am talking about the macro. You seem to have the option to move easier than most. The other is we don't really get to choose not to play the game. We can try but the game goes on. Those who try to remove themselves from it are leaving themselves at the mercy of the game and those who are engaged in the fight.

I don't think you are talking about really dropping out but moving out, it's different.

 

[Oaktree]

I am now a US citizen, and feel the same way. But I am 73 now. Cannot fold and go elsewhere. I am prepared for things to get ugly…very ugly.

Nothing has to "get ugly" unless we let it. Both sides need to step back and cool the extreme rhetoric. Not everyone who disagrees with you is your enemy.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Nothing has to "get ugly" unless we let it. Both sides need to step back and cool the extreme rhetoric. Not everyone who disagrees with you is your enemy.

Amen. Sheep are being led to slaughter

 

[Fixastuff]

When people say there are “ready” I really wonder if that’s true. Can you run a 5k or even walk a 5k while carrying anything?

Most people I see are very far from ready, but everyone on the internet is. lol.

Anyone who has lived in a modern civil war would prefer not to. Please read more history if you think you want this.

 

[Fixastuff]

The future thread will be “they said a civil war would be fun and turn out like I wanted, but increasingly I feel duped”. lol.

That’s if you live through it.

 

[DarkBlack]

Still hilarious after the years :

 

[shooterdon]

When people say there are “ready” I really wonder if that’s true. Can you run a 5k or even walk a 5k while carrying anything?

Most people I see are very far from ready, but everyone on the internet is. lol.

Anyone who has lived in a modern civil war would prefer not to. Please read more history if you think you want this.

Being prepared is different than wanting something to happen.

I carry a gun not because I want to shoot people, but because I may need to. The same applies to guns I have staged around the house. I had to draw on a person once and I prefer having a gun rather than a stick.

I have food stocked not because I want the SHTF but because it might. BTW it came in handy during Covid. We only went to the store once every two or three weeks when it was really crazy.

I have a whole house generator and fuel for two months not because I want the power grid to go out for weeks at a time, but it might.

I am well armed and able to manufacture bullets and ammunition for a long time if "peaceful protests" become the new normal and less peaceful. If the government "temporarily" bans the sale of ammunition, powder or primers for the sake of "public safety", I and the people I will be depending on, will not be affected.

I live in the sticks where neighbors will band together if things get bad. We will not need to leave and "get away". No need to run 5 km or carry much.

BTW, when I said things will get ugly, I was not suggesting a civil war. That makes no sense. Who is the enemy? People are not going to walk around with "I support Bidet or Rump" patches on their shirts. Things get ugly when folks lose jobs, cars, and homes. Things get ugly when people are assaulted, their property stolen, and criminals are not incarcerated...oh wait, some places run by Democrats are already like that...LOL.

There will not be a civil war in the US. It is more likely judges and employees of government agencies perceived as corrupt and/or enforcing "unfair laws" will be targeted. Elected officials will also be targeted. Read the book "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross.

Those people will be called "Domestic Terrorists". When thing get bad, people will blame those in power and positions of authority for their misery. 'Terrorists" targeting the cause of problems will not be feared by the population.

 

[Fixastuff]

Sounds like you have it figured out. Good luck and God bless.

 

[shooterdon]

Sounds like you have it figured out. Good luck and God bless.

Yep. You are correct.

Getting right with God is the ultimate prep.