Power Pack on L6060, how long of hoses and where do you run them?

[MoLife]

Hi all,

Ordering a 3-pt power pack for my L6060 to run a few skid steer attachments...

Getting a 25gal, 21.2gpm unit from Green Hoe.
1. Does anyone have experience with this unit or company?
2. Why type of oil can I use in this? 25gal. is a LOT... their saying no oil cooler is needed because of the 25gal amount in the tank. These are regular Skid Steer attachments, so I'm not sure how the oil differs from our tractors?

Once this is mounted on the 3-pt quick attach...
3. Where is the best locations to run the 2 hydraulic lines so they don't get destroyed over the years all the way up to the FEL?
4. How long of hoses do we need?

Thanks again all!

 

[leonz]

Hi all,

Ordering a 3-pt power pack for my L6060 to run a few skid steer attachments...

Getting a 25gal, 21.2gpm unit from Green Hoe.
1. Does anyone have experience with this unit or company?
2. Why type of oil can I use in this? 25gal. is a LOT... their saying no oil cooler is needed because of the 25gal amount in the tank. These are regular Skid Steer attachments, so I'm not sure how the oil differs from our tractors?

Once this is mounted on the 3-pt quick attach...
3. Where is the best locations to run the 2 hydraulic lines so they don't get destroyed over the years all the way up to the FEL?
4. How long of hoses do we need?

Thanks again all!

Have you invested in these attachments????????????????????????????????????????????????????

You will need more than 25 gallons to fill the tank, hydraulic hoses and the pump and YOU need an oil cooler.

Hydraulic driven skid steer attachments are high oil flow oil attachments requiring 30+ gallons per minute.

Things to understand and keep in mind before you empty your wallet:

Reminder no. 1. hydraulic hose is very expensive and you will need two 30 plus foot long
hoses and hose fittings to match each attachment. If the attachments have different
hose connectors you are really out of luck.

Reminder no. 2. you need hose protector sheath/sleeves for both hoses

If you blow an oil seal on any of these attachments you will pay a great deal
for a repair.

The hoses can be placed outside the right window of the cab using loom clamps
large enough to allow them to be removed and stored with the power pack.

You need stand off clamps to allow you to pull the hoses through to the
front of the loader and to reach the attachment.

Where do you expect to mount the control valves, on the attachment??

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A rented Toro Dingo and whatever attachments you need would be a better choice as they
are small powerful track driven machines.

The amount of money your going to spend for too small a power pack and the attachments
will be greater than renting a Toro Dingo and whatever attachments you need over time.

 

[MoLife]

Yes I already have the attachements, one runs at 18gpm, another at 16, the last at 12. All units have flat face connectors.
There are no control valves for any attachment, simple on/off, speed (gpm) depending on PTO output.

L6060 has no cab.

 

[MichiganIron]

Yes I already have the attachements, one runs at 18gpm, another at 16, the last at 12. All units have flat face connectors.
There are no control valves for any attachment, simple on/off, speed (gpm) depending on PTO output.

L6060 has no cab.

For 18gpm, you will need a 3/4" Power Hose, and at least 3/4" Return Hose. 1" Return would be optimal, but 3/4" Return would be acceptable. We use 3/4" Power and Return Lines on all of our 21gpm Auxiliary Power Units, 1" return for the 32gpm units. Keeping fluid velocity low in the return line is important to keep the system backpressure low and eliminate foaming in the reservoir.

Hope this helps

 

[MoLife]

Thanks thats good to know!
What are your thoughts on an oil cooler?

 

[MichiganIron]

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Thanks thats good to know!
What are your thoughts on an oil cooler?

Coolers are required for continuous use attachments. Any hydraulic motor driven attachment that is going to run more than 20 minutes in any clock hour should have conditioned fluid. We include a cooler on every unit so customer use is not limited for any applicable attachment.

 

[rScotty]

Hi all,

Ordering a 3-pt power pack for my L6060 to run a few skid steer attachments...

Getting a 25gal, 21.2gpm unit from Green Hoe.
1. Does anyone have experience with this unit or company?
2. Why type of oil can I use in this? 25gal. is a LOT... their saying no oil cooler is needed because of the 25gal amount in the tank. These are regular Skid Steer attachments, so I'm not sure how the oil differs from our tractors?

Once this is mounted on the 3-pt quick attach...
3. Where is the best locations to run the 2 hydraulic lines so they don't get destroyed over the years all the way up to the FEL?
4. How long of hoses do we need?

Thanks again all!

Great project! Sounds like you are getting good advice from Michigan Iron & Equipment. What do they say on fluid? Can you use one of the new Lo Vis Syntheitic Motor oils for hydraulic fluid? JD does that in some of their commercial equipment.
Please keep us updated on how this works out.

rScotty

 

[LouNY]

Fluids will likely be up to the owner/operator.
I would recommend the same fluid he uses for his tractor hydraulic/transmission to keep it simple.

 

[Jchonline]

Which attachments?

 

[MoLife]

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Coolers are required for continuous use attachments. Any hydraulic motor driven attachment that is going to run more than 20 minutes in any clock hour should have conditioned fluid. We include a cooler on every unit so customer use is not limited for any applicable attachment.

What kind of oil cooler do you have on your units? I found it on your site, but can't tell from the images or drawings. I do not see any wires coming from it so it must be a heatsink style without a fan?

Love the way your pack is setup we just can't do the price tag for it right now. Do you by chance have any other styles or used units?

Thanks again!

 

[MichiganIron]

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What kind of oil cooler do you have on your units? I found it on your site, but can't tell from the images or drawings. I do not see any wires coming from it so it must be a heatsink style without a fan?

Love the way your pack is setup we just can't do the price tag for it right now. Do you by chance have any other styles or used units?

Thanks again!

Our site miemachinery.com only shows our High Flow Power Packs. We have lower flow units that are less expensive, but still have the features of the High Flow packs. If you are interested in more information on our 21gpm units, please use the Contact Us feature on the website. All of our Power Units are PTO Shaft Drive with DC Fan Driven Coolers.

 

[MoLife]

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Our site miemachinery.com only shows our High Flow Power Packs. We have lower flow units that are less expensive, but still have the features of the High Flow packs. If you are interested in more information on our 21gpm units, please use the Contact Us feature on the website. All of our Power Units are PTO Shaft Drive with DC Fan Driven Coolers.

Thanks, just messaged via your site.

 

[Jchonline]

Yes I already have the attachements, one runs at 18gpm, another at 16, the last at 12. All units have flat face connectors.
There are no control valves for any attachment, simple on/off, speed (gpm) depending on PTO output.

L6060 has no cab.

You could have just gotten a M62 (I believe its 18 gpm) for the price difference....much more capable machine and a backhoe to boot.

Hate to say it, but you are probably going to regret this power pack in a year or 2. It just doesnt perform the same as a true hydraulically driven machine. That said you own it now, so might as well make the best of it!

 

[D&D]

Hate to say it, but you are probably going to regret this power pack in a year or 2. It just doesnt perform the same as a true hydraulically driven machine. That said you own it now, so might as well make the best of it!

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[MoLife]

???

I think what he's trying to say is that it's not a green JD HP2134... for $15k... so it's junk. lol

 

[leonz]

No, he is saying the problem is the needed fluid
power to develop torque.

An open center hydraulic system provides flow at
a low pressure in a hydraulic system.

The attachments that are driven by the hydraulic
fluid create the resistance to flow that the back
pressure created by them is what creates the
needed pressure in the system to power the
attachment.


I will say this; if your hydraulic drive attachments
do not have the case drains connected on the
hydraulic motors they need to be installed to prevent
oil seal blow outs.
The same applies to the hydraulic power packs pump.

The case drain lines allow oil to flush the area behind the seal
with low pressure oil to prevent a seal blowout as the system
pressure will be high behind the seal at all times when it is
running.

 

[MoLife]

For 18gpm, you will need a 3/4" Power Hose, and at least 3/4" Return Hose. 1" Return would be optimal, but 3/4" Return would be acceptable. We use 3/4" Power and Return Lines on all of our 21gpm Auxiliary Power Units, 1" return for the 32gpm units. Keeping fluid velocity low in the return line is important to keep the system backpressure low and eliminate foaming in the reservoir.

Are your 21gpm and below units using 3/4" connections in and out?
The 3 attachments we have are a plate compactor, auger and concrete drum mixer, all of which have 1/2" lines in and out. Will running 3/4" lines from the power pack to the attachments (i'd say about 20' of line once routed) help with flow and heat if their just bottlenecking at the pack and at the attachments?

Also, does your power pack have a case drain on it? (see below why I'm asking)

No, he is saying the problem is the needed fluid
power to develop torque.

An open center hydraulic system provides flow at
a low pressure in a hydraulic system.

The attachments that are driven by the hydraulic
fluid create the resistance to flow that the back
pressure created by them is what creates the
needed pressure in the system to power the
attachment.


I will say this; if your hydraulic drive attachments
do not have the case drains connected on the
hydraulic motors they need to be installed to prevent
oil seal blow outs.
The same applies to the hydraulic power packs pump.

The case drain lines allow oil to flush the area behind the seal
with low pressure oil to prevent a seal blowout as the system
pressure will be high behind the seal at all times when it is
running.

Yes the attachments have case drains already.
The power pack pump does not, because it's a PTO pump and not a motor, I can't seem to find any PTO hydraulic pump that has a case drain on it.

 

[grsthegreat]

I had to make some connection plates on my tractor to pipe lines to front. they run under cab, up loader post and out to the connector. all custom made as no one sells these.

 

[grsthegreat]

 

[D&D]

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Looks great. Is there a set of qd’s between the cab glass and front mount? Or do you remove the lines before removing the loader frame?