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[rScotty]

Of course they do. rScotty is just obtuse and argumentative.

Depending on who is saying it, that can be a compliment.
Thank you.

 

[Hay Dude]

Nice that we now know who is behind funding illegal immigrant labor into this country.

Record illegal crossing and record high effort to prevent illegal immigration ‘16-‘20
Record illegal crossing and strong effort to promote illegal immigration ‘21-‘24.

We also now know who suppressed information about p*litic@l figures. They are outed and all but the slowest dolts and deniers will know who to trust in the media when it comes to information on candidates.

 

[Rdrcr]

This might be commonplace but, there’s a trend in my area where large parcels of forest land are being sold to corporations (and government) which are purchasing it for carbon credits to offset a corporations (or government) carbon footprint. The whole idea seems wrong. Makes me wonder what will happen to these large parcels of forests as the years pass.

Mike

 

[jyoutz]

This might be commonplace but, there’s a trend in my area where large parcels of forest land are being sold to corporations (and government) which are purchasing it for carbon credits to offset a corporations (or government) carbon footprint. The whole idea seems wrong. Makes me wonder what will happen to these large parcels of forests as the years pass.

Mike

The idea will fade and the lands will be resold.

 

[two_bit_score]

It’s investing in America and rural/urban needs are different but both are important to our country.

TAX money is not an investment. It is an EXPENSE from the people who pay the taxes.

An INVESTMENT comes from private funds and the purpose is expected to make a PROFIT.

 

[two_bit_score]

So many of these programs aren't investing at all because the outcome measurements show they cost a lot of money with few measurable results to show for it. There is a state jobs creation program near me that has operated since the mid 1980s that hasn't generated many jobs for anyone except the people that run it. Can't figure out why it still exists since there was a move to shut it down, but it moved to a new office building about 5 years ago.

And there are many, many more bureaucratic government program that need to be closed down. Oh, yeah, there may be a could things in each bureaucracy that are somewhat worthwhile and could be helpful to keep. Those a few and far between so combine them and get rid of the deadwood.

 

[jyoutz]

TAX money is not an investment. It is an EXPENSE from the people who pay the taxes.

An INVESTMENT comes from private funds and the purpose is expected to make a PROFIT.

Fixing our roads, utilities and communication infrastructure creates more economic growth. Thinning our forests reduces wildfire suppression costs. Lots of expenditures can be investments that pay off financially in the future.

 

[two_bit_score]

Fixing our roads, utilities and communication infrastructure creates more economic growth. Thinning our forests reduces wildfire suppression costs. Lots of expenditures can be investments that pay off financially in the future.

Those are maintenance expenses from tax money.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be done. In fact, they must be done. I'm opposed to the term "Investments" being applied to maintenance expenses.

Most of the time when bureaucrats want the public to feel better about the screwing they are about to get it's referred to as an "investment". Call it one of the biggest lies the bureaucrats tell us.

 

[jyoutz]

Those are maintenance expenses from tax money.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be done. In fact, they must be done. I'm opposed to the term "Investments" being applied to maintenance expenses.

Most of the time when bureaucrats want the public to feel better about the screwing they are about to get it's referred to as an "investment". Call it one of the biggest lies the bureaucrats tell us.

Repairing existing roads is maintenance. Bringing fiber optic internet access to rural communities is an investment in economic growth for the area.

 

[D&D]

The other thing noteworthy about our nearest giant city (Philly) is that they survive off of money from the suburbs. The suburbanites go to the city and blow millions and millions on pro sports tickets, parking, museums, the arts, etc., but most of the city residents and politicians hate the suburbanites.

Without the city, the suburbs would have no “culture”. OK, we would still survive, though.
Without the suburbs, the city wouldn’t exist-they’d have no money. They can’t survive without outside money from the ‘burbs and state/fed money.

Yet here we are, people from the burbs go to the city, get beat up, robbed, car jacked and continue to be their “banker”.

Most Of the “cities” were just a stockpile of places where office people went to work. Now that the offices are empty, the “city folk” are realizing the commuter cash cow isn’t being milked. Rather than being happy you want to spend entertainment dollars with them, they are po’d that you aren’t giving them more.
Commuter cash cows and relocated individuals are putting the “elected ones” into very dangerous territory. They got voted in to manage the crisis, now the crisis has ballooned too far out of control.
They got exactly what they asked for, now want to send it back. Too little, too late.