Will UAW Strike?

[5030]

Don't much care as I refrain from watching Hollywierd stuff anyway.

 

[sd455dan]

It may happen sooner as the new push is to restrict vehicles pre 1978 and offer low income incentives for electric.

This is in California where as a rule cars don’t rust out… lots of classic and special interest cars tucked away…

Imagine having your pride and joy muscle car and with the stroke of a pen you become an outlaw for driving it?

Wait a minute… it’s already happened with gas blowers and trimmers and commercial use of diesels over certain hp.

Barrett Jacksons Scottsdale January auction was in excess of 190 million in sales for a single event.

If a state thinks they can legislate out investment quality vehicles they will have a Real fight on their hands.

 

[JasperFrank]

Interesting that Ford is losing money hand and fist building E-150's, the cost of which is being subsidized by an inflated suggested price of the F-150s. At least that is what I just heard on NPR. Toyota, I believe, is on the right path. As the second largest automobile maker in the world, they have very smart people making future decisions. In ten years, the Chinese are going to dump very inexpensive EVs in to the American and world markets, and we're going to wonder what the hell happened....

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

My dad worked at a dealer that took a leaf in years back on a trade. The batteries were bad and needed replaced. At the time it was in the range of $10k plus labor. The car was worth like $7500 in minit condition. They also couldnt find a place to take it as scrap so they used it as a golf kart since it was effectively stuck in limp mode until they found someone to take it

 

[Snobdds]

Tesla faces the same issue. Will anyone buy a used Tesla with a degraded battery knowing a huge expense is around the corner?

Every car is a consumable item given enough time. However EV's might have changed the equation to being a consumable in a much shorter time period.

Nothing about the economics of EV over the long run make any sense and violate all laws of economics.

 

[Snobdds]

Leading auto analyst Adam Jonas effectively says Detroit should reconsider (abandon?) EVs plans and leave the upcoming fight in that market to Tesla v China. VW CEO sounded alarm yesterday. Detroit 3 “D3” next? Fascinating times.

 

[riptides]

Leading auto analyst Adam Jonas effectively says Detroit should reconsider (abandon?) EVs plans and leave the upcoming fight in that market to Tesla v China. VW CEO sounded alarm yesterday. Detroit 3 “D3” next? Fascinating times.

Solar panels all over again.

Invent, produce, divest, get swamped, whine.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Tesla faces the same issue. Will anyone buy a used Tesla with a degraded battery knowing a huge expense is around the corner?

Every car is a consumable item given enough time. However EV's might have changed the equation to being a consumable in a much shorter time period.

Nothing about the economics of EV over the long run make any sense and violate all laws of economics.

I've been told Tesla batteries last forever, don't worry about it.

 

[Snobdds]

Solar panels all over again.

Invent, produce, divest, get swamped, whine.

Probably the most favorable outcome for the “D3” is to abandon.

China is most definitely going to deliberately fight with the EV industry because they control ~63% of the capacity to produce batteries for EVs. It’s business 101 to increase profits via raw material monopolies.

The D3 wants no part of that arms race.

 

[5030]

Think I posted previously that I was up at Ford Rouge Assembly for a visit, I know personally more than one tech at Fords SVO operations which is part of the Rouge (non steel producing complex as Fords divested itself of the steel making operation and sold that off to Servistal which is of course offshore owned (no surprise there as only offshore entities have the capital today)

But the holding lots around the complex are extremely loaded with the electric powered F150's and E-Stangs as well and I do hope none of them combust as they had that very issue a few months ago and the Dearborn fire department was not equipped to extinguish them, but then who really is? Least the pickup trucks actually look like pickup trucks sort of. The E-Stangs are fugly and certainly don't carry on the heritage of the real pony cars. Basically just an electric Escape with some sheet metal changes and of course a very inflated price, just like the electric trucks.

My impression of a pickup truck is, if it has 4 doors (mine does) it has to have at least a 6 foot cargo box, preferably an 8 foot box, not the tiny 5 foot or less cargo soccer mom bed they produce today and of course the highly inflated price as well. When the autoworkers cannot afford to buy them, that says something about their products.