Diabetes

jigs_n_fixtures · Mar 7, 2023

Counting Carbs: Take the total carbs. Subtract the fiber, and you get “Net Carbs”. Add, the total sugar, and then add the “added sugar”.

For example, the bread i found at my sisters house: 20-g per slice, 2-g of fiber, 3-g of sugar, 3-g of which is added sugar. 20-2=18. 18+3=21. Plus 3 for he added sugar, so 21+3=24. Then divide the 24 by the 20. And, the reactivity is 1.2. so moderately reactive. It will cause a moderately fast reaction, which will be spikey going up and down fairly fast.

The cookies at my sisters house: 4-cookies, 19-g of carbs, 1-g of fiber, 8-g of sugar, including 8-g of added sugar. So 19-1=18, 18+8=26, 26+8=34. And 34 divided by 19 = 1.78. So fairly hard reaction blood sugar will go up and back down quickly with no lag time.

The “Cookies” I bought: 22-g of carbs, 12-g of fiber, 1-g sugar, and no added sugar. 22-12=10, 10+1 =11, and 11 divided by 22 = 0.5. So, they are very slow reacting. They will cause a slow rise in blood sugar with a long plateau time, and a slow drop at the end..

Bocephous · Mar 7, 2023

MinnesotaEric said:
Okay, those people are killing diabetics, txdon.

Eating fat doesn't cause one to become fat, eating carbs with anything else is what spikes insulin and packs on the fat.

Fat takes our bodies the longest to process and turn into sugars. As Md. Fuhrman stated in his The End of Diabetes, while surveying different diets:

"There is no evidence to suggest that a diet of equal calories that is extremely low in fat is an advantage for prevention or treatment of heart disease or any other disease. Studies that compare dietary fat percentages suggest that it is not the fat level, but other more critical qualities, that make the diet more of less beneficial" (emphasis, his, p. 109).

Fuhrman continues, writing: "I want to be clear that the benefits of a vegetarian or vegetable-based diet are not the result of low-fat intake. ...unlike the people advocating plant-based diets, I recommend more vegetables, fruits, beans, nuts, and seeds and less bread, potato, and rice. The daily addition of one or two ounces of nuts and seeds, which average about 175 calories an ounce, can bring up to 15 to 30 percent of calories from fat. This is important..." (ibidem, p. 109).

There are so many good resources on this subject on the internet now. For example, pick this video up at 3:53.

Whoever that lady is on that video nails it. I posed a question (I already knew the answer) to a nurse at work (I work in a Federal prison) who had just given a diabetic inmate whose blood sugar was low a high carb snack. I asked her what would happen to that inmate if you eliminated the majority of carbs from that inmates food intake and at the same time reduced or eliminated the inmates shot of insulin. She said, "Well, he would't be diabetic anymore." Our nations medical profession is (purposefully, imo) so behind the curve when it comes to knowledge on curing disease instead of slapping multiple band-aids on it to keep the pharmi-giants fat and happy.

scootr · Mar 7, 2023

A big problem has always been the medical assoc. being in bed with the pharmaceutical industry.
The AMA declares Diabetes progressive and irreversible. They get lifetime patients and the pharma industry gets lifetime customers. Big $$$$ for both.
They tell you to stop eating like an fool and you are cured. No more $$$

Id be willing to bet diabetes is a 1st world problem.

scootr · Mar 7, 2023

Why is diabetes so common in the world?

More than 95% of people with diabetes have type 2 diabetes. This type of diabetes is largely the result of excess body weight and physical inactivity.Sep 16, 2022

Which is caused by grocery stores. Without grocery stores or markets we would all be out beating the bushes for something low fat to eat

daugen · Mar 7, 2023

scootr said:
Why is diabetes so common in the world?

More than 95% of people with diabetes have type 2 diabetes. This type of diabetes is largely the result of excess body weight and physical inactivity.Sep 16, 2022

Which is caused by grocery stores. Without grocery stores or markets we would all be out beating the bushes for something low fat to eat

rabbit would be ok, deer for sure, might pass on squirrel

ArlyA · Mar 7, 2023

Not getting into those magical mystery GF diets, here are some basic diabetes pointers.

If you are overweight you will get, or will not control your type I* or II.

If you eat poorly or keep on too much extra weight, it will come back to haunt you with complications or with type II.*

Humans are opportunists, omnivores so eating all of just one thing, might not be the best. Eat lots of different things with grains, fruits, nuts and vegetables at the top. This ain't rocket science, we are omnivores.

Move around. If we sit at the keyboard talking about how X,Y, or Z diet is the cure for the world, maybe we should have been out for that walk, ride or whatever you can do to burn some calories. People who do something for activity have healthier hearts, lower weights and less medical greif. And for this discussion can get away with using less insulin. In the case of type II, become more sensitive to it. We all want to be using less insulin while keeping that A1C low.

* leaving genetics out at this time.

NorTracNY · Mar 7, 2023

daugen said:
rabbit would be ok, deer for sure, might pass on squirrel

Careful! Too much rabbit and you'll die from their lack of fat. I remember that from a survival guide. Fat is essential to for the body.

txdon · Mar 7, 2023

NorTracNY said:
Careful! Too much rabbit and you'll die from their lack of fat. I remember that from a survival guide. Fat is essential to for the body.

All plants have fat. Even lettuce.
Interesting that wild rabbit meat has twice the cholesterol as domesticated rabbit meat.

NorTracNY · Mar 8, 2023

txdon said:
All plants have fat. Even lettuce.
Interesting that wild rabbit meat has twice the cholesterol as domesticated rabbit meat.

Yes, the driest desert also has moisture in the air. Other than soybeans, corn, and kidney beans the amount of fat is pretty insignificant. Nuts and seeds are where you're going to find the fat if you're not eating meat. A few more tropical fruits also are good. The survival guide was pointing out that even if rabbit is readily available, you better find something else if it's a long term situation.