PTO and Powershift tranny question

[etpm]

Hi All,
I have a YM2310. I also have a 5 foot Bush Hog rotary mower. I am finished with the thing and never intended to use it again. However, a small job has come up for it. On my Ford 9N I have an over run clutch for the Bush Hog so that it doesn't push the tractor around. The clutch won't fit the Yanmar because of different splines. I don't wanna buy another clutch just for one job. So, if the Powershift transmission is in neutral will the Bush Hog still drive the tractor along like it would the Ford before I installed the last clutch?
Thanks,
Eric

 

[California]

Yanmar's internal over-run clutch on the US models works same as your external one on the Ford. Does the 2310 have this?

 

[winston1]

I believe the mower inertia will push your 2310 whether in or out of gear. The 2310 does not have the internal over run clutch.

 

[AaronM]

So, if the Powershift transmission is in neutral will the Bush Hog still drive the tractor along like it would the Ford before I installed the last clutch?

It will not. Slipping the powershift into neutral will prevent the mower from pushing the tractor.

 

[bmaverick]

It will not. Slipping the powershift into neutral will prevent the mower from pushing the tractor.

Absolutely right.

 

[bmaverick]

Hi All,
I have a YM2310. I also have a 5 foot Bush Hog rotary mower. I am finished with the thing and never intended to use it again. However, a small job has come up for it. On my Ford 9N I have an over run clutch for the Bush Hog so that it doesn't push the tractor around. The clutch won't fit the Yanmar because of different splines. I don't wanna buy another clutch just for one job. So, if the Powershift transmission is in neutral will the Bush Hog still drive the tractor along like it would the Ford before I installed the last clutch?
Thanks,
Eric

Eric,
Are you finished with the mower or the YM2310? I can read it either way.

As for the YM2310, it's in the same realm as the Ford 8N. My neighbor keeps eyeing my YM2610 with the PowerShift as it allowing for a live PTO vs his Ford 8N. Plus the Yanmar is a diesel. His 8N has limitations to the Ym2610, even to a YM2310.

 

[etpm]

Eric,
Are you finished with the mower or the YM2310? I can read it either way.

As for the YM2310, it's in the same realm as the Ford 8N. My neighbor keeps eyeing my YM2610 with the PowerShift as it allowing for a live PTO vs his Ford 8N. Plus the Yanmar is a diesel. His 8N has limitations to the Ym2610, even to a YM2310.

Yeah, I'm done with the Bush Hog after this last job. It is going to be sold along with the 9N.
Eric

 

[etpm]

It will not. Slipping the powershift into neutral will prevent the mower from pushing the tractor.

Thank you, I really appreciate the quick answer.
Eric

 

[etpm]

Absolutely right.

Thanks to you too. The folks here on TBN have been really helpful. Especially for people who own and use Grey market and old equipment. I tell others about TBN as often as possible. Nice people, lotsa good advice, and almost no politics.
Eric

 

[YanmarFever]

The problem with the powershift is that you have to wait for the mower to stop spinning because when you go from neutral to drive it will catch and put a huge strain on your PTO
I would just buy a clutch and put it on, that way you will always be ready for another job, and its cheap insurance.
If you break the spider gears or ring & pinion you wont be happy.
Buy the clutch !!

 

[winston1]

I have changed the ring and pinion on an FX24D and a YM1720D for exactly the reason you stated.

The problem with the powershift is that you have to wait for the mower to stop spinning because when you go from neutral to drive it will catch and put a huge strain on your PTO
I would just buy a clutch and put it on, that way you will always be ready for another job, and its cheap insurance.
If you break the spider gears or ring & pinion you wont be happy.
Buy the clutch !!

 

[etpm]

The problem with the powershift is that you have to wait for the mower to stop spinning because when you go from neutral to drive it will catch and put a huge strain on your PTO
I would just buy a clutch and put it on, that way you will always be ready for another job, and its cheap insurance.
If you break the spider gears or ring & pinion you wont be happy.
Buy the clutch !!

Thanks for that info. It looks like I need a clutch.
Eric

 

[etpm]

I changed my mind on the overrun clutch purchase. To obviate the purchase the Bush Hogging job won't be done. I will sell the Bush Hog as originally planned along with the Ford 9N. I instead ordered a new headlight to replace the one I broke and a new dash because mine is badly cracked. Thanks everyone for the replies. If I had done the job without the clutch I could have damaged my Yanmar, which would have been a shame. I really like the tractor, it's almost like a friend.
Thanks,
Eric

 

[bmaverick]

Thanks to you too. The folks here on TBN have been really helpful. Especially for people who own and use Grey market and old equipment. I tell others about TBN as often as possible. Nice people, lotsa good advice, and almost no politics.
Eric

And hopefully spread the word of,

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Several from TBN and the other 4 tractor forums with Yanmar machines are there too. It's like getting all of the forum people in one big location. Plus and international audience of members who can get parts to the US easily.

 

[bmaverick]

Thanks for that info. It looks like I need a clutch.
Eric

That's the first item Fredricks asked when I got my machine of, Do you plan to mow via the PTO. So I got the over-run clutch. It's way better built than the ones sold by TSC and other places.

 

[etpm]

That's the first item Fredricks asked when I got my machine of, Do you plan to mow via the PTO. So I got the over-run clutch. It's way better built than the ones sold by TSC and other places.

I decided not to use the Bush Hog. So instead of ordering the clutch I ordered a new headlight and a new dash. The dash won't make the tractor work better but I'm sure the old YM will appreciate having the cracked dash replaced. And who knows how long the dashes will be available. I can't imagine they were made special for Frederick's, I figure they are probably Yanmar factory or made for Yanmar.
Eric.

 

[bmaverick]

I decided not to use the Bush Hog. So instead of ordering the clutch I ordered a new headlight and a new dash. The dash won't make the tractor work better but I'm sure the old YM will appreciate having the cracked dash replaced. And who knows how long the dashes will be available. I can't imagine they were made special for Frederick's, I figure they are probably Yanmar factory or made for Yanmar.
Eric.

Chances are, they could be 3D printed. Some of the sites with replacement dashes have gone that way.

 

[etpm]

Chances are, they could be 3D printed. Some of the sites with replacement dashes have gone that way.

It could be 3D printed. I would be surprised though. In any case a 3D print is easy to recognize. I will report on the dash when it arrives. I expect it to be the same quality and material as the original.
Eric

 

[bmaverick]

It could be 3D printed. I would be surprised though. In any case a 3D print is easy to recognize. I will report on the dash when it arrives. I expect it to be the same quality and material as the original.
Eric

Don't expect too much.

 

[etpm]

Don't expect too much.

What do you mean? Have you seen one of these? Are they crummy? I guess it doesn't matter now because it has been shipped already. When it arrives I'll be able to and so will report here about the quality.
Eric