Kioti RX7320 No Tailights

[ErnieR]

Hello all, bought myself a 2015 RX7320 open station with just over 300hrs on it and the original owner certainly looked after it because it looks like new.

Anyways, all lighting forward of the seat works perfect, but not so much on the back end. No running lights whatsoever and only left side double filament bulb delivers left signal. Double filament bulb on right side has one filament burnt out and without any wiring diagram available that I can find online I thought I’d reach out for help here. I did jump the seat safety switch but can’t see that having any I’ll effect on taillights tho

The rear marker/signal lights have an amber single filament that to me appears to be what used to be called an 1156 then the clear double filament bulb in the lower position has the offset lugs what I’d call the old school 1157, but they don’t seem to fit to test for power. Plus I’m not confident probing into these new style 4 pin water tight connectors because I don’t know power from grounds.

Service manuals aren’t even available up here in Canada and I hate the thoughts of what it would cost to have a dealer come pick it up repair it and haul it back 2hrs just for the sake of lights not working.

Thanks in advance

 

[ErnieR]

Anyone ??

 

[SwingOak]

I suppose you checked the fuses...

 

[Midniteoyl]

Hello all, bought myself a 2015 RX7320 open station with just over 300hrs on it and the original owner certainly looked after it because it looks like new.

Anyways, all lighting forward of the seat works perfect, but not so much on the back end. No running lights whatsoever and only left side double filament bulb delivers left signal. Double filament bulb on right side has one filament burnt out and without any wiring diagram available that I can find online I thought I’d reach out for help here. I did jump the seat safety switch but can’t see that having any I’ll effect on taillights tho

The rear marker/signal lights have an amber single filament that to me appears to be what used to be called an 1156 then the clear double filament bulb in the lower position has the offset lugs what I’d call the old school 1157, but they don’t seem to fit to test for power. Plus I’m not confident probing into these new style 4 pin water tight connectors because I don’t know power from grounds.

Service manuals aren’t even available up here in Canada and I hate the thoughts of what it would cost to have a dealer come pick it up repair it and haul it back 2hrs just for the sake of lights not working.

Thanks in advance

Probing the 4 pin connectors blind shouldn't matter, just check for power to ground (the chassis).. Not hard to probe the light sockets either, just a semi steady hand. Pin at the bottom is the positive, side negative.

Kinda surprised the left side blinker works. When I busted the right hazard off the rops, the left quit as well. Think its wired old school.

 

[SwingOak]

The brake light AND 4wd light come on in my 7320 when I step on the brakes, I don't think it's supposed to turn on the 4WD light, but haven't done anything to look into it.

I mention this because there's a possibility that there's some funky connections from the factory in your tractor, and maybe the previous owner never bothered to do anything.

And yes, just check power to ground with a meter or test light from the socket, won't hurt anything.

 

[ErnieR]

I suppose you checked the fuses...

First thing I checked yes

 

[ErnieR]

Probing the 4 pin connectors blind shouldn't matter, just check for power to ground (the chassis).. Not hard to probe the light sockets either, just a semi steady hand. Pin at the bottom is the positive, side negative.

Kinda surprised the left side blinker works. When I busted the right hazard off the rops, the left quit as well. Think its wired old school.

Do you mean, the Pin at the bottom of the socket or bulb position is positive ?? and yes being the sockets sit tucked in tight that why I was and always hesitant to go in the a probe because I usually have a tendency to pop a fuse haha

Surely me jumping that seat safety wouldn’t be part of that circuit failure ??

 

[ErnieR]

The brake light AND 4wd light come on in my 7320 when I step on the brakes, I don't think it's supposed to turn on the 4WD light, but haven't done anything to look into it.

I mention this because there's a possibility that there's some funky connections from the factory in your tractor, and maybe the previous owner never bothered to do anything.

And yes, just check power to ground with a meter or test light from the socket, won't hurt anything.

Let’s hope nothing funky going on similar to yours !!

What I’ll do is put some small shrink tube around my test probe and just leave the very tip exposed

Appreciate the help guys. I’ll get back with the results in the morning

 

[Midniteoyl]

Do you mean, the Pin at the bottom of the socket or bulb position is positive ?? and yes being the sockets sit tucked in tight that why I was and always hesitant to go in the a probe because I usually have a tendency to pop a fuse haha

Surely me jumping that seat safety wouldn’t be part of that circuit failure ??

Yes, pin(s)/pad(s) at the bottom of the socket. The socket itself is Neg (ground). If you touch both with the same probe, it could pop the fuse, so don't do that.

Also, that dual filament rear light might not be an 1157 if the light wont seat correctly, in which case one of the pads will also be negative.. Doubtful, but something to look for.

When you probe a connector, do not probe across 2 pins unless you know for sure one is Neg/Ground. Place the Neg probe on a chassis ground, like an exposed nut, or even the Neg side of the batery, and use the Pos probe to probe the connector pins. One at a time while turning on the lights, turn signals, and brake lights until you know they all work or not, at which point you'll also know which wire is for what and can trace those out if needed.

 

[ErnieR]

I couldn’t figure out what single and dual filament bulbs I had in this tractor because the stamping didn’t say 1156 and or 1157 although they sure looked like typical 1156/1157 and your photo confirmed they are just with different numbering.

What’s your thoughts on converting to LED in their place once I get this wiring figured out. OEM taillight bulbs say 21W/1156, and the stamping aren’t deep enough to make out the wattage for the 1157 but I figured finding the right LED might last longer, draw less amperage and be maybe brighter than the stock bulbs. But then again I don’t know for sure

 

[Midniteoyl]

What’s your thoughts on converting to LED in their place once I get this wiring figured out.

Sure. Only problem might be the flashers dont flash at the correct speed. Depends on if your flasher is electronic or old school bi-metal. Easy enough fix though.

I bought these to replace the BA15S (1156) bulbs. Haven't replaced the others yet.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RMVXKP6

 

[ErnieR]

Well that’s quite the surprise, 3 outta 4 bulbs burnt out. Doesn’t that seem odd that a tractor with such low hours would burn those bulbs out like that ?? The one Amber 1156 has the outer finish pretty much bubbled off from heat.

Reading Amazon reviews on most of these LED don’t seem too promising. I found a spare pair of clear lens 1157 but will have a pickup an amber 56..

 

[Midniteoyl]

Well that’s quite the surprise, 3 outta 4 bulbs burnt out. Doesn’t that seem odd that a tractor with such low hours would burn those bulbs out like that ?? The one Amber 1156 has the outer finish pretty much bubbled off from heat.

Reading Amazon reviews on most of these LED don’t seem too promising. I found a spare pair of clear lens 1157 but will have a pickup an amber 56..

Nope. Its the reason I switched to LED, haven't had much luck with incandescent bulbs lately. And they cost a pretty penny now-a-days compared to what I can get LEDs for off of Amazon. The ones I bought have been doing just fine for a little more than a year so far.

 

[ErnieR]

Nope. Its the reason I switched to LED, haven't had much luck with incandescent bulbs lately. And they cost a pretty penny now-a-days compared to what I can get LEDs for off of Amazon. The ones I bought have been doing just fine for a little more than a year so far.

Good to know. Not sure which brand LED’s you got but so many mixed reviews, either short life and excessive heat (which I find odd from any LED) but hard to know which ones to buy. Take a chance and get 4 bulbs for like $12 vs 10 for the same price haha

 

[ErnieR]

Sure. Only problem might be the flashers dont flash at the correct speed. Depends on if your flasher is electronic or old school bi-metal. Easy enough fix though.

I bought these to replace the BA15S (1156) bulbs. Haven't replaced the others yet.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RMVXKP6

I had an old 1157 LED I had bought years ago for my fishing boat navigation light and never installed it and I can’t get over how much brighter it is compared to the standard incandescent wow.

So where would I go about looking for what type flasher this RX7320 has

One thing that is supper annoying is the little 2019, CK2510 I had and now this 2015 both those tractors the ignition switches are absolutely the worst on any piece of equipment I ever seen. Even spraying doesn’t seem to help and both tractors I bought used and both keys the previous owners have twisted the keys. Sure wish there was a fix for this ignition key switch

 

[Midniteoyl]

I posted the ones I bought. Work great for me, but I do see some reviews that say they've had a bad batch with the glue failing..Dunno though. They also have 1157 in red.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RMVXKP6

Mines a 2020, but I did see where some people had problems with the earlier ignition switches. You can probably order new ones. Call your dealer or these guys: Home Michigan Iron & Equipment Morrice, MI (855) 265-4590

 

[Midniteoyl]

So where would I go about looking for what type flasher this RX7320 has

Not sure where to look as mine worked with the LEDs so didnt need to look

 

[ErnieR]

I posted the ones I bought. Work great for me, but I do see some reviews that say they've had a bad batch with the glue failing..Dunno though. They also have 1157 in red.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RMVXKP6

Mines a 2020, but I did see where some people had problems with the earlier ignition switches. You can probably order new ones. Call your dealer or these guys: Home Michigan Iron & Equipment Morrice, MI (855) 265-4590

I ordered from Amazon.ca the amber 1156 and their supposed to be here tomorrow so we’ll see how they work. Also on the tractor I have the 1157’s have a red plastic lens in front of them so I thought just getting the white bulbs should suffice.

You guys in the US have such the selection to choose from just on Amazon alone, need an ignition switch for a Kioti tractor, no problem, up here in Canada, ya good luck finding one on our site haha

 

[Midniteoyl]

I ordered from Amazon.ca the amber 1156 and their supposed to be here tomorrow so we’ll see how they work. Also on the tractor I have the 1157’s have a red plastic lens in front of them so I thought just getting the white bulbs should suffice.

You guys in the US have such the selection to choose from just on Amazon alone, need an ignition switch for a Kioti tractor, no problem, up here in Canada, ya good luck finding one on our site haha

Didn't realize you were up North.

 

[ErnieR]

Haha hope that doesn’t change the possibility of a decent opinion you have of me