Little advice on holes?

[Raul-02]

Post hole digging in mucky conditions that keep filling with slop.

The long sordid tale of drunkenness and cruelty:
Some years ago, we had a water table change. More rain than in all recorded history over a two-year period. It poured every single day for two years. I couldn't mow large parts of my yard for three more years after. Was having to pull my mower out of the slop sometimes two or three times every mow. Put a 1" X 100' rope down, get my truck in a dry spot and pull.
It's been rain bombs ever since. It does dry out, but, after winter, it takes a while.

I'm putting post holes in a newly bogged-up wet area. It'll dry out eventually. I do plan to subsoil the hell out of it off downhill.

Anyway, the problem
The hole is mucky I'm thinking I have two choices:
1) use the hand digger to clear the rocks then flood the hole with more water and just shove the post down into the soup ad then backfill with rocks.
2) Rent a trash pump.

One mucky hole I did this to, I was able to go get buckets of dry earth, dump that in, and sop up the water so the bigger could work. But this hole fills too fast.
Got any better ideas?

 

[jaxs]

Drive them in or do as they do in Ar when it's near solid rock,pile stones around post to hold it.

 

[Raul-02]

Drive them in

I'll be waiting for you to arrive with the driver. Nice of your to offer. Can't say I can thank you enough. I'll have beers.

 

[Doughknob]

Post hole digging in mucky conditions that keep filling with slop.

The long sordid tale of drunkenness and cruelty:
Some years ago, we had a water table change. More rain than in all recorded history over a two-year period. It poured every single day for two yearsnot exaggerating here are you?. I couldn't mow large parts of my yard for three more years aftercontinued exaggeration?. Was having to pull my mower out of the slop sometimes two or three times every mow. Put a 1" X 100' rope down, get my truck in a dry spot and pull.
It's been rain bombswhat is that? ever since. It does dry out, but, after winter, it takes a while.

I'm putting post holes in a newly bogged-upwhat is that? wet area. It'll dry out eventually. I do plan to subsoil the hell out of itwhat does this mean? off downhillwhat does THIS mean?.

Anyway, the problem
The hole is mucky I'm thinking I have two choices:
1) use the hand digger to clear the rocks then flood the hole with more waterwhy? and just shove the post down into the soup ad then backfill with rocks.
2) Rent a trash pump.why?

One mucky hole I did this to, I was able to go get buckets of dry earth, dump that in, and sop up the water so the biggerHuh? could workdo you pay him?. But this hole fills too fast.
Got any better ideas?sure - plenty if I only knew wth you were talking about LOL.

 

[Raul-02]

Nope. That actually happened. It was unfrigginBelievable~!!
Newly bogged up: Wasn't a bog before is now
subsoil the hell: drop my subsoiler and drive all over the place.
Yes I pay the Bigger ooops Digger. I pay him with Gear oil.

" if I only knew wth you were talking about LOL" You never had a post hole that was filling with water collapsing the sidewalls and making your life miserable?
God bless, That's all I can say. Don't piss off the water spirits

 

[LittleBittyBigJohn]

Mine just fill with water where I'm at. Usually the sides hold. I have had luck dropping the post in the water, back filling with dry concrete and tamping it in.

 

[Rockbadchild]

so your ground is flooded but yet too solid to drive the post in without digging it but too soft for the wall to hold ? ... My buddy did holes in the sand and had the issue with side wall collapsing so he would stop the rotation before lifting the post hole digger and the side wall would stay intact, maybe give that a try...

 

[Raul-02]

back filling with dry concrete

I'll try that. thx

 

[big bubba]

question: why now & not when it does eventually dry out like you say?

 

[Raul-02]

but yet too solid to drive the post i

I didn't say that. I do not own a driver. Wish I did. Stopping the rotation ( after adding fry dirt) was how I lcleared the other hole, this one however seems to be in an underground river (sarcasm) It fills too fast for that trick.

 

[Raul-02]

why now & not when

Why now and not when?
Hmmm
It drys out when I get a good run of no rain.

 

[Rockbadchild]

I didn't say that. I do not own a driver. Wish I did. Stopping the rotation ( after adding fry dirt) was how I lcleared the other hole, this one however seems to be in an underground river (sarcasm) It fills too fast for that trick.

I mean if you sharpen your post (if its a wood post) and sink it in with weight will it go in ?

 

[hosspuller]

Concrete sets under water (gains max strength too) My concern about dry concrete is separation as it drifts down. I would mix the concrete with minimum water then pour it into the hole, displacing the water. You'll have to brace the post while it sets.

 

[bcp]

What is the purpose of these posts? Gate? Corner? Line? Roof support?

Could you use T-posts? Braced T-posts?

Bruce

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Concrete sets under water (gains max strength too) My concern about dry concrete is separation as it drifts down. I would mix the concrete with minimum water then pour it into the hole, displacing the water. You'll have to brace the post while it sets.

I mix my dry concrete with the water in the post hole. Been doing that for 50 years.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Ever notice how you get stuck on the beach but can drive next to the water? Pour sand around the posts. You can pull wire from them shortly thereafter. I mean a few minutes later.

 

[hosspuller]

I mix my dry concrete with the water in the post hole. Been doing that for 50 years.

You have holes filled with water as the OP does for 50 years ?

Edit... OP : google "Tremie Pipe" Used to prevent cement separation from the concrete

 

[Raul-02]

I mean if you sharpen your post

I have read, (never tested it myself) that removing stock form a PT post will expose untreated wood and cause it to rot.

 

[Rockbadchild]

I have read, (never tested it myself) that removing stock form a PT post will expose untreated wood and cause it to rot.

true it would, but wood post rot at the soil contact you need air to decay organic matter so in the soil you will be fine, you can buy wood treatment to re paint it but its not pressurize so its not as good...

 

[jaxs]

I have read, (never tested it myself) that removing stock form a PT post will expose untreated wood and cause it to rot.

true it would, but wood post rot at the soil contact you need air to decay organic matter so in the soil you will be fine, you can buy wood treatment to re paint it but its not pressurize so its not as good...

Treated posts today aren't like they once were.
Stand posts in wood treatment for long as possible then transfer to empty bucket to drain off excess liquid for 15 minutes.