MX series tires

[Hay Dude]

I haven’t seen them as a dealer option on cuts or uts. Maybe large uts? And are the wheels compatible? Could be a very expensive change over.

Got to remember, your R-4 rims arent worthless. They can be sold to offset the purchase of R-1 rims. Or if you‘re really tight on funds, find a set of used R-1 rims, and save even more money.

We have a guy nearby and all he sells is equipment rims, new and used.

Dont forget, theres a savings in greater traction, too.
Greater traction saves time and fuel over the life of the tractor.

 

[jyoutz]

Got to remember, your R-4 rims arent worthless. They can be sold to offset the purchase of R-1 rims. Or if you‘re really tight on funds, find a set of used R-1 rims, and save even more money.

We have a guy nearby and all he sells is equipment rims, new and used.

Dont forget, theres a savings in greater traction, too.
Greater traction saves time and fuel over the life of the tractor.

I’m good with my R4s. I mow my native grass fields during the summer rainy season. Once I borrowed my neighbors tractor with R1s to mow, and wasn’t pleased with the ruts, even though it isn’t lawn. My R4s do a great job for most of my tasks, including plowing the garden with a ripper plow and snow plowing. The only time I lose traction is when snowpack is icy. I’m not sure that any tire works well in that situation. Chains are the best solution for ice.

 

[jstrick]

I got the "standard" industrial tires on my MX6000 and have had no issues with traction. I looked at getting the Ag tires, but they were thinner (fewer plies) and thus not as puncture resistant as the industrial tires. I do a lot of brush hogging and work in rocky areas, so the extra tough is more important to me than the extra traction.

 

[m1garand762]

That’s not what Im talking about. Im talking about going from a narrow R-1 to a wider R-1.
Anyone who wants R-1 traction and increased flotation (like an R-4) can have both.

Wider r1s are radials the narrow are bias ply

 

[jyoutz]

I got the "standard" industrial tires on my MX6000 and have had no issues with traction. I looked at getting the Ag tires, but they were thinner (fewer plies) and thus not as puncture resistant as the industrial tires. I do a lot of brush hogging and work in rocky areas, so the extra tough is more important to me than the extra traction.

I work with loggers and they all run industrial tires on their skidders. At least whatever companies still use skidders. The logging industry is moving towards tracked feller-bunchers and forwarders more and more.

 

[07 LMM LTZ]

Not sure why some don’t like the R4’s but they are a more versatile tire. Like other have said much more puncture resistant and way better if you are doing any heavy loader work. Almost all construction backhoe’s run R4’s and have very little problems getting stuck in the mud. My buddy has R1’s on his tractor and when ever he lift anything heavy with the loader the front rims are nearly sitting on the ground.

 

[jyoutz]

Not sure why some don’t like the R4’s but they are a more versatile tire. Like other have said much more puncture resistant and way better if you are doing any heavy loader work. Almost all construction backhoe’s run R4’s and have very little problems getting stuck in the mud. My buddy has R1’s on his tractor and when ever he lift anything heavy with the loader the front rims are nearly sitting on the ground.

I had R4s on my old small compact JD. It seemed like they did load up in the mud and snow. I now have R4s on my larger Kubota MX and they are a totally different tire. More aggressive treads that don’t load up like the smaller R4 tires.

 

[Hay Dude]

Not sure why some don’t like the R4’s but they are a more versatile tire. Like other have said much more puncture resistant and way better if you are doing any heavy loader work. Almost all construction backhoe’s run R4’s and have very little problems getting stuck in the mud. My buddy has R1’s on his tractor and when ever he lift anything heavy with the loader the front rims are nearly sitting on the ground.

Theres some misconceptions going on here.
I load both my tractors loaders beyond their capacity weekly for 10+ years on R-1s with no issues. I did have one blowout because of a sidewall defect and that happened about 10 years ago. Again, because it was a defective tire.
If your buddy’s R-1 tires are squatting, its because theyre low on air or under speced for his tractor.
If you havent gotten stuck with R-4’s in the mud, you ain’t been in REAL mud, because R-4’s cant do serious mud. As a former Case 580 Super M owner, and a New Holland LB-110 owner, I can tell you from experience R-4’s are lousy in mud. Construction backhoes run R-4’s because they spend so much of their life on pavement and R-1’s would wear too quickly.
You CAN buy R-1’s with more plies and load capacity if you just look for them.

 

[jyoutz]

Theres some misconceptions going on here.
I load both my tractors loaders beyond their capacity weekly for 10+ years on R-1s with no issues. I did have one blowout because of a sidewall defect and that happened about 10 years ago. Again, because it was a defective tire.
If your buddy’s R-1 tires are squatting, its because theyre low on air or under speced for his tractor.
If you havent gotten stuck with R-4’s in the mud, you ain’t been in REAL mud, because R-4’s cant do serious mud. As a former Case 580 Super M owner, and a New Holland LB-110 owner, I can tell you from experience R-4’s are lousy in mud. Construction backhoes run R-4’s because they spend so much of their life on pavement and R-1’s would wear too quickly.
You CAN buy R-1’s with more plies and load capacity if you just look for them.

Every logger I have seen with a rubber tired skidder runs R4s. They are not just for payment. Loggers run them because woods work is tough with rocks and staubs everywhere.

 

[Hay Dude]

Took me all of 30 seconds to upload these. Google “logging skidders” and all you see is R-1’s on them. All I see out here are R-1s.
Besides, this is a tractor forum, not a logging skidder forum

Another nice thing about R-1s is it lessens the need for chains.

 

[jyoutz]

You said they were for payme

Took me all of 30 seconds to upload these. Google “logging skidders” and all you see is R-1’s on them. All I see out here are R-1s.
Besides, this is a tractor forum, not a logging skidder forum

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Another nice thing about R-1s is it lessens the need for chains.

You said R4s were for pavement. I guess log skidders are different in the Rocky Mountains than in your country. We have lots of rocks in the woods. But those skidder tires have thick sidewalls and are wide like R4s, not like ag tractor R1s. Most skidders do run chains.

 

[AndyMA]

All of my previous tractors had R1's. Current MX has R4 can definitely tell the difference in traction but the R4 don't tear up the lawn

Andy

 

[jyoutz]

All of my previous tractors had R1's. Current MX has R4 can definitely tell the difference in traction but the R4 don't tear up the lawn

Andy

It would be nice if there were an option to choose those wide radial R1s like Hay Duke talks about. I think they would be less damaging to the ground, but the only R1 options for new tractors are those narrow wheel R1s that are good at cutting trenches.

 

[oosik]

I have loaded R-1's. 1550# of Rim Guard in total. I never drive the tractor on my lawns. It weighs - 10,100# - besides I have no implement for the M6040 that are designed for lawn use.

I have an ATV and riding lawn mower for use on my lawns.

 

[LD1]

Ahhh a great r1 vs r4 debate/argument.

On an MX sized tractor.....people saying they don't tear up the yard with r4's.....

If it's that solid and dry neither would r1's.

If it is soft and muddy but you just have something that needs done.....r4's gonna tear it up even more.....since when you get stuck you'll need to call your neighbor over with a bigger tractor that has r1s to get you out

 

[Hay Dude]

It would be nice if there were an option to choose those wide radial R1s like Hay Duke talks about. I think they would be less damaging to the ground, but the only R1 options for new tractors are those narrow wheel R1s that are good at cutting trenches.

“Hay Duke”….I like it!

 

[Hay Dude]

Ahhh a great r1 vs r4 debate/argument.

On an MX sized tractor.....people saying they don't tear up the yard with r4's.....

If it's that solid and dry neither would r1's.

If it is soft and muddy but you just have something that needs done.....r4's gonna tear it up even more.....since when you get stuck you'll need to call your neighbor over with a bigger tractor that has r1s to get you out

I just keep thinking to myself “who drives on their lawn with a tractor when it’s muddy or soft”?

Here’s some optional Michelin flotation rubber for ya

 

[LD1]

I just keep thinking to myself “who drives on their lawn with a tractor when it’s muddy or soft”?

I have been known to on occasion. But try to avoid it.

But for example....we do maple syrup. And have to drive through 50' of yard before we hit the field to get to the woods. By season end...got ruts about a foot deep.

Or when I had some wet areas in the yard that NEVER dried even in July.....and wanted to install some drainage tile.....

Or fixing some damaged fence around my property that can't wait because it constrains animals.

But of you have a tractor....you likely also have the ability to repair the damage you make at a later date.

 

[LouNY]

If you really want a super wide flotation tire bias ply or radial they are available;
just open your wallet wide. Which is why they are not offered as options.

FLOTATION 23° G-1 TIRE - Firestone Commercial

 

[oosik]

Ahhh a great r1 vs r4 debate/argument.

On an MX sized tractor.....people saying they don't tear up the yard with r4's.....

If it's that solid and dry neither would r1's.

If it is soft and muddy but you just have something that needs done.....r4's gonna tear it up even more.....since when you get stuck you'll need to call your neighbor over with a bigger tractor that has r1s to get you out

LD1 - was it YOU peaking thru the pines last time I got the M6040 stuck??? I got my M6040 stuck exactly two times. Both involving yucky mud. And, YES, I did call my neighbor over with his big Red tractor to pull me out. It was the second year I owned the Kubota. Courage to reach out - insufficient experience to know better.

I learned that even the deepest lugged R-1's can become "slicks" in sticky mud. I know my neighbor enjoyed both experiences. He was, probably, glad that it only took two times for me to learn a valuable lesson.