L2501 vs LX2610

[Fallon]

Why? How do you think they differ from Deere or Kubota?

Yanmar makes the engines for most smaller Deeres & makes or at least made some of the CUT & smaller Deeres. It's pretty clear they are easily capable of making machines equal in engineering & quality to a Deere. You could debate the avalibility of a dealer & service network though.

I consider Kubota & Deere to be equal in quality & engineering in general. It comes down to features & ergonomics on individual models. Lots of ergonomic stuff varies from person to person, so you can make any blanket statements between OEMs or models on how a given tractor will feel to you.

HST pedals are a prime example. I prefer the Kubota treadle (because that's what I'm familiar with mostly). Others are super opinionated that the JD 2 separate pedal design is superior. Both options are equally valid for most, but some have strong opinions one way or another due to taste or ergonomic reasons.

 

[Paystar]

Yanmar makes good engines too, but no denying the fact that Kubota makes everything on their tractors. Engines and transmissions. And Kubota was the very first diesel engine manufacturer to meet the EPA requirements when all this emissions stuff started. I read that in an article about the history of Kubota.

 

[Smf834]

If you can find a used l2501, about 2-5 yrs old with less than 300 hrs on the clock, what is the range of fair price? I looked at tractorhouse, and they have from 23k to 34k!!

 

[RickB]

If you can find a used l2501, about 2-5 yrs old with less than 300 hrs on the clock, what is the range of fair price? I looked at tractorhouse, and they have from 23k to 34k!!

There is one listed right here that seams reasonable.

Kubota L2501 HST northern WV

Kubota L2501, less than 3 years old, excellent cond., 124 hours. LA525 loader with 66" quick attach bucket, 3rd function to front. 2" wheel spacers, telescoping stabilizers, bucket rod indicator kit, right grab handle, R4 tires. $18,800

www.tractorbynet.com

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

I opted for the L2501 over the L3301 based on simplicity. The L2501 has no computer and no diesel particulate filter. It is probably as simple as a tractor gets today.

However, in the interest of full disclosure, the simple L2501, designed to skirt Tier IV emissions requirements, (legally) spews a lot of diesel particulates. According to those more knowledgeable than I on emissions, the L3301 with a Tier IV diesel particulate filter/incinerator spews less than 1% of the pollution load of an L2501 with a traditional, low-tech muffler.

Exactly what Kubota did. The same engine displacement engine produced 28+ horsepower in previous editions. What Kubota did wasn't illegal or unethical, it was simply taking advantage of the regulations to produce a good tractor with a basically proven engine. Having said that, you are also correct in saying that it is a comparatively dirty engine. Engines with using DEF or with DPF filters expel far fewer particulates into the atmosphere. Put a white handkerchief over the exhaust of a tier IV non DEF of DPF engine and then of similar size with the the added technologies and let me know your results.

 

[Fallon]

Exactly what Kubota did. The same engine displacement engine produced 28+ horsepower in previous editions. What Kubota did wasn't illegal or unethical, it was simply taking advantage of the regulations to produce a good tractor with a basically proven engine. Having said that, you are also correct in saying that it is a comparatively dirty engine. Engines with using DEF or with DPF filters expel far fewer particulates into the atmosphere. Put a white handkerchief over the exhaust of a tier IV non DEF of DPF engine and then of similar size with the the added technologies and let me know your results.

My L3200 would smoke up the barn on a cold start. Under normal operating condition it wasn't bad but had a diesel smell. No diesel smell or soot ever on my L4060. Occasional funk when the DPF is regening.

I was hitching up a front snowblower on a Pre DPF 40hp or so John Deere. It stank & even a brief time near the exhaust gave me a headache.

As much as I hate the cost & complexity of a DPF it's so much nicer to work around. There's the whole save the planet & avoid health issues from particular things, too.

 

[Jstpssng]

My L3200 would smoke up the barn on a cold start. Under normal operating condition it wasn't bad but had a diesel smell. No diesel smell or soot ever on my L4060. Occasional funk when the DPF is regening.

I was hitching up a front snowblower on a Pre DPF 40hp or so John Deere. It stank & even a brief time near the exhaust gave me a headache.

As much as I hate the cost & complexity of a DPF it's so much nicer to work around. There's the whole save the planet & avoid health issues from particular things, too.

I feel the same way. I keep threatening to trade for a geared Kioti 2610, then I drive my father's L2800 for a while and can't wait to get back onto my cleaner burning 3301. While I think his tractor is much better in a lot of ways, I don't miss that diesel stench.

 

[RalphVa]

The L2501 has brakes on wrong side with HST.

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

The lower L2501 has brakes on wrong side with HST.

Learn! The Brits and Aussies drive on the opposite side of the road. You go there, you adapt. They come here, they adapt. There is no wrong side, only the unfamiliar.

 

[Paystar]

Good to know. Personally, I’m totally fine with the trade-off and comprise of simplicity vs. complexity and cost.

Mike

Same with me! There are far many other things that are going to kill us and this planet before my tractor exhaust does, LOL