Kubota L3301 issues

[jeff9366]

We need a grapple to remove invasive trees and bushes. We need to plant fruit trees in other lots. We need to clear 10 acres for planting. (PLANTING WHAT?)

Kubota L3301 Weight
4WD Gear :	2734 lbs 1240 kg
4WD Hydro :	2778 lbs 1260 kg

Kubota MX5400 Weight
4WD Gear ROPS :	3716 lbs 1685 kg
4WD Gear Cab :	4251 lbs 1928 kg
4WD Hydro ROPS :	3734 lbs 1693 kg
4WD Hydro Cab :	4268 lbs 1935 kg

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[Jstpssng]

I almost tipped on a slight rise, so put weight in the back, and shifted the range to low, and now looking to fill the R1 tires or replace with R4 if thats what it needs.

You also might widen your rear tires. I did that, and not only is it a bit more stable but my tire chains fit better. But definitely add some sort of weight to the tires. A 3301 without weight can be like a carnival ride, without the fun.

 

[rScotty]

I almost tipped on a slight rise, so put weight in the back, and shifted the range to low, and now looking to fill the R1 tires or replace with R4 if thats what it needs.

The L3301 operator manual shows that you can set the rear wheels out quite a distance. Have you checked that? It's the first step and costs nothing but the effort to do it. Final change in width often involves swapping the rear wheels side to side....which means being careful with the jack stands.

Sure, R4s are more stable - downside is that going there sometimes requires different wheels. I much prefer the wider industrial tires for stability. But then I'm a nut for stability....

My impression is that the L3301 seems larger than the JD790 just about everywhere. Sure, I agree that an M is a lot more tractor. We have an M now and it is a whole different tractor. But if the L3301 is what you have available I still see it as a move in the right direction.

 

[cathy liebchen]

Tractors are not the correct tool for land clearing work

 

[The Deerslayer]

I almost tipped on a slight rise, so put weight in the back, and shifted the range to low, and now looking to fill the R1 tires or replace with R4 if thats what it needs.

You may want to consider widening the stance of the rear tires (assuming they may be at the narrowest setting) before switching out the tires. You can do this with R1's by adjusting the rims. I did this with my L3901 and it made a huge difference in the "pucker" factor when on slopes. I gained an additional 7 inches in the rear width footprint.

 

[mikester]

I just acquired a Kubota L3301 Gear Drive Transmission., 3rd Function valve with grapple, with R1 tires. I want to know what issues I should look out for, and what implements I should add and costs, as I would like to farm and use for land clearing.

Being orange it will be good to put at the other end of the field as a line marker. Other than that good luck on using it for land clearing.

 

[Gee Ray]

Hell sell the Kubota and buy a CAT D9. Go big or go home.



It is amazing how every time someone asks for help the solution is "you need a bigger tractor." Maybe that is the biggest tractor he can afford. Sure you can do it faster with a larger tractor but that does not mean the work can not be done with what he has to work with.

There is not a lot of information given as to what kind of work needs to be done but I bet a lot could be done with the L3301. Large stumps or mountains of dirt may require some bigger equipment at some point but a lot of hard work and time the L3301 will clean up a lot of a mess. After all isn't the reason for a tractor is to work it?

If I only had a bigger tractor I could pave farm the world.

 

[Jstpssng]

Hell sell the Kubota and buy a CAT D9. Go big or go home.



It is amazing how every time someone asks for help the solution is "you need a bigger tractor." Maybe that is the biggest tractor he can afford. Sure you can do it faster with a larger tractor but that does not mean the work can not be done with what he has to work with.

There is not a lot of information given as to what kind of work needs to be done but I bet a lot could be done with the L3301. Large stumps or mountains of dirt may require some bigger equipment at some point but a lot of hard work and time the L3301 will clean up a lot of a mess. After all isn't the reason for a tractor is to work it?

If I only had a bigger tractor I could pave farm the world.

You raise a valid point. However, sometimes not having the proper tool for the job can be more costly in the long run, especially when you start breaking things. Clearing 10 acres with a tractor to prep for planting is like using a teaspoon when you need a shovel.

Here is my setup on my 3301; wheels at widest point, and weights. (I believe that it’s 204 lbs on each side.) The rears still come up at inopportune times, but it’s manageable.

 

[azbinder]

Unless things have changed, on Kubota L series tractors R1 tires come on 2 piece wheels. An outer rim and an inner disc. The outer rim can be mounted with a 2" offset in or out on the disc. Also, the disc can be mounted to the axle either dish "in" or "out". The R4 tire is mounted on a rigid no adjustable rim. Otherwise, if you want to be able to widen the rear width, then you will need to go with "R1's"

 

[Fallon]

Unless things have changed, on Kubota L series tractors R1 tires come on 2 piece wheels. An outer rim and an inner disc. The outer rim can be mounted with a 2" offset in or out on the disc. Also, the disc can be mounted to the axle either dish "in" or "out". The R4 tire is mounted on a rigid no adjustable rim. Otherwise, if you want to be able to widen the rear width, then you will need to go with "R1's"

They have not. Economy Ls with R4s are not adjustable, R1 rims are. Grand Ls have adjustable rims for both.

 

[drumminj]

They have not. Economy Ls with R4s are not adjustable, R1 rims are. Grand Ls have adjustable rims for both.

The L4701 has adjustible rims for R4 also

 

[Jstpssng]

Unless things have changed, on Kubota L series tractors R1 tires come on 2 piece wheels. An outer rim and an inner disc. The outer rim can be mounted with a 2" offset in or out on the disc. Also, the disc can be mounted to the axle either dish "in" or "out". The R4 tire is mounted on a rigid no adjustable rim. Otherwise, if you want to be able to widen the rear width, then you will need to go with "R1's"

Look at my first picture, just above your post. As I said then, my wheels are at their widest setting.

 

[jjeff]

Well imo you can do it will it be hard on the tractor and slow going, yes I cleared a couple acres on a hill with my old L2850 the three point BH made it work for me plus added 1500 lbs of weight to the tractor. When everything was to a point I was happy with i definitely felt a sense of accomplishment. Unfortunately I ended up rebuilding the front axle on it, new seals, bearings, and a bevel gear. I waited five years to finish the rest of the acres after I got my skid steer which ended up doing the same amount of work in a fraction of the time and no breakdowns. Good luck.

 

[mikester]

Hell sell the Kubota and buy a CAT D9. Go big or go home.



It is amazing how every time someone asks for help the solution is "you need a bigger tractor." Maybe that is the biggest tractor he can afford. Sure you can do it faster with a larger tractor but that does not mean the work can not be done with what he has to work with.

There is not a lot of information given as to what kind of work needs to be done but I bet a lot could be done with the L3301. Large stumps or mountains of dirt may require some bigger equipment at some point but a lot of hard work and time the L3301 will clean up a lot of a mess. After all isn't the reason for a tractor is to work it?

If I only had a bigger tractor I could pave farm the world.

The OP said clear fence lines. If he meant fence lines consisting of his wife's rose bushes then he's ready to go.

I've cleared some fence lines last fall using a 25 ton excavator. My 5 ton CUT lifts 4,000lbs and can barely move the larger root ball stumps. Good luck with a 1,500 lb tractor.

FYI the excavator struggled on pushing out some of the trees. Let's get realistic with expectations here.

 

[Jstpssng]

The OP said clear fence lines. If he meant fence lines consisting of his wife's rose bushes then he's ready to go.

I've cleared some fence lines last fall using a 25 ton excavator. My 5 ton CUT lifts 4,000lbs and can barely move the larger root ball stumps. Good luck with a 1,500 lb tractor.

FYI the excavator struggled on pushing out some of the trees. Let's get realistic with expectations here.

Where did you read that?

 

[Reddogs]

The OP said clear fence lines. If he meant fence lines consisting of his wife's rose bushes then he's ready to go.

I've cleared some fence lines last fall using a 25 ton excavator. My 5 ton CUT lifts 4,000lbs and can barely move the larger root ball stumps. Good luck with a 1,500 lb tractor.

FYI the excavator struggled on pushing out some of the trees. Let's get realistic with expectations here.

I am leaving the bigger trees where they are, but its mostly brush with invasives, as we have gotten hit by several fires that resulted in good start for clearing.

 

[Reddogs]

Here is the last one that hit us... https://abc-7.com/news/local/2021/0...ts-voluntary-evacuations-golden-gate-estates/

 

[Fallon]

I am leaving the bigger trees where they are, but its mostly brush with invasives, as we have gotten hit by several fires that resulted in good start for clearing.

If you are talking about mowing brush & stuff up to an inch, maybe 2" in diameter on up to 5 or 10 acres, an economy L will be slow but very acceptable. It would be a great machine for annual mowing of 5-10 acres. A hoe on an economy L will dig out some smaller trees. But if you are talking bigger trees or lots of trees, you probably want a better tool for the job.

How big is the brush or trees you are trying to deal with? How many trees? How fast do you need to do the work? In some cases you xan just go slow with a small machine & do the job fine. When dealing with heavier stuff you need more machine.

A tractor is not a digging machine, not even one 10x the size of an L. The impliment is called a loader, not a digger for a reason. A skid steer isn't even really a digging machine, although they are a lot better than a tractor. They do a great job grading. If you want to dig you need a backhoe or an excavator.

 

[Reddogs]

The L4701 has adjustible rims for R4 also

Can I get adjustable rims for R4 on a L3301?

 

[Reddogs]

If you are talking about mowing brush & stuff up to an inch, maybe 2" in diameter on up to 5 or 10 acres, an economy L will be slow but very acceptable. It would be a great machine for annual mowing of 5-10 acres. A hoe on an economy L will dig out some smaller trees. But if you are talking bigger trees or lots of trees, you probably want a better tool for the job.

How big is the brush or trees you are trying to deal with? How many trees? How fast do you need to do the work? In some cases you xan just go slow with a small machine & do the job fine. When dealing with heavier stuff you need more machine.

A tractor is not a digging machine, not even one 10x the size of an L. The impliment is called a loader, not a digger for a reason. A skid steer isn't even really a digging machine, although they are a lot better than a tractor. They do a great job grading. If you want to dig you need a backhoe or an excavator.

I rented the heavy stuff to originally clear my land, but it got to be costly as you can imagine. So got a JD 790 with loader and backhoe and been using that for many years, but the other lots have been sitting there growing invasive trees and brush, but the fires did knock down some as it nearly burned my house. So got the L3301 and getting it set up to clear the other lots as they are a bit down the road, and do fire breaks around the house.