Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts?

   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts? #101  
I'm willing to be educated. What models from what manufacturer has Kubota sold in the US as their own?
Kubota M-8 series being manufactured by Buhler Versatile Industries Inc. in Winnipeg,Manitoba. Buhler Industries is a subsidiary of Russian owned RostSelMash Company since 2007
 
   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts? #102  
I'm willing to be educated. What models from what manufacturer has Kubota sold in the US as their own?
Their biggest models that they are selling right now....

You are now educated...

SR
 
   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts?
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#103  
Now take 20% off with the NCHA membership of the $35k and you're at $28K for an established tractor brand.
enlighten me here, what is this? and how does it work lol. I am totally new to this world.
 
   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts? #104  
I purchased my Branson prior to moving to Alaska. I called and talked to one of the main guys that run the dealership up there beforehand to make sure they would be “okay” with that. He said it was not a problem and he meant it. They have been good people to work with when I needed them. We have run into a couple of problems with them ordering wrong parts…think they need to update their catalog🤷‍♂️.
Branson has been more than willing to let me do my own warranty work which has now occurred twice. Once for the joystick slicing the cable which run the third function and now for a knuckle which already had a crack in it and finally split while pulling logs out with the grapple in -12f temperature.
I live 1.5 hours away from one of their dealers but the two good mechanics work 3 hours and 5 hours away from me at their other two dealers. Their tractors are simple. I can fix most stuff myself.

In Alaska, buying from the lower 48 and hauling up is common. Some dealers up here will not help you if you do. But the price difference can exceed 10 grand or better for the same tractor. I can sell my used tractor right now for several thousand more than I purchased new a year and half ago.
 
   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts? #105  
Thinking this through a bit more the M8's are Versatiles. They are the only Kubotas rebadged from another manufacturer that I am aware of.
But again, I'm willing to be educated.
Yes it could be the M8, I just remember it was one of the big boys.
 
   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts? #106  
enlighten me here, what is this? and how does it work lol. I am totally new to this world.
If you own horses and are a member of the NCHA you get 20% off a tractor purchase. However if you are honest and dont own horses you would not try and take advantage.
 
   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts? #107  
Bakoj, I'm hesitant to respond to anything, but I will answer that question. When a customer comes in for a warranty. We can fix things that are less than 1000.00 for parts with out a Repair Number. We need to take several pictures and order the parts if we don't have them in stock. When the parts come in then we install them. The issue I have is that they alot times for the repair that sometimes don't really cover the repair. The paperwork is like doing a mortgage. Then it is submitted and the wait begins. Before you know it you get an E-Mail that says the warranty claim is denied ?? You go thru a process that makes you want to pull your hair out. We do not get paid for all the paperwork, loading pic's and the reports needed for it. This is the worst part of what I do with the manufacturer.
Realize they just want to sell tractors to whomever wants to buy them. We have a contract that clearly states we have an AOR ( Area Of Responsibility ) I try in every way to follow this, including calling a dealer in the area for customers. This will allow for local interaction between the end user and the dealer. This is how it should work. I've gained alot of respect from dealers because of how I handle these sales. I've also irritated alot of customers doing this. I guess my approach is I would rather have a customer out of my AOR mad at me than a local one.
I have lost a ton of small warranty claims just because I did not want to be P- off by my supplier, and I did not file claims. I was told by my TM that I have one of the lowest warranty claims of most dealers. Just get tired of the fight with corporate. Now with that said throw some retails in the mix from dealers that just want to push products and have not a care of where it goes. This is what I call a car dealer mentality !! Just being in business without product & Parts is bad enough, now throw in the customer that will drive 2 hours to save a buck and then want you to solve his issues. This is not fair to any dealer anywhere.
like Bransons approach to this it states that the selling dealer is and should be the servicing dealer. This is the approach that alot of dealers are going to and starting to take these days. I guess I'm the only one that is willing to front the underlying ideas and problems. I'm sure I will again be smeared for stating what I have. Just understand theirs always 2 sides to every story and this is my take on the life of being a tractor dealer. Realize I get along very well with 4 Kioti dealers in the state of MI. We talk often and do dealer trades. I have a couple that I just can't get along with. I think they hurt the value of the brand when they don't profit from the sale. This also affects resale value of products and my employees and growth of a business. I'm not just talking my business. I again have talked to several dealers that are effected by this. Kioti has a dealer that has sold in 34 States last year. How's that sound. Remember that we have an AOR in a contract. What good is a contract if things are not enforced ? So the subject of terminating a dealer because he puts warranty work from product that he didn't sell on the back burner ! Just not sure what to say without incriminating myself. Just trying to make a point that the buyer does not understand.
 
   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts? #108  
If the warranty process is that complex and the 'approval' is that troublesome then the manufacturer is bunk. Not good customer service and not good dealer support. But if it is so then all dealers would be facing it and they seem to be handling it ok so...

Any manufacturer that has dealers should create a supportive dealer network that a customer can use regardless of where they are or who they purchased from. For parts, paid service or warranty service.
 
   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts? #109  
You do know that Tractor Supply (TSC) sells Bad Boy mowers. Wonder if they will go the RK route and sell tractors too. Considering the level of competency with TSC 'associates'. I can see another RK in the making. Sales but non existent service.

Don't matter if they are less expensive or not. With no competent service, it's doomed, just like Cabelas was with their rebadged and camo painted tractors that I thought were a bit outlandish anyway.
Where I live I can shop at three different TSC stores. And I do because each has different inventory. They will sell anything popular, soup devour. But and that’s a BIG but, they don’t work on maintenance or warranties. They might use local repair guys for warranty work.
When buying a large investment item look for a larger dealer with a big inventory and track record of reliable service.
 
   / Looking at Bad Boy Tractors, thoughts? #110  
I'm willing to be educated. What models from what manufacturer has Kubota sold in the US as their own?
Yeah I'd like to know that too.
 

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