Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

[deezler]

The guy by the loader is on the phone. A young nerdy looking guy. He was likely operating the loader. Hey boss I lowered the loader on the trailer and broke the truck . I think thats what he's saying there.

You might be on to something. Sometimes at the local nursery / landscape yards, the loader driver tries to squash my 3rd yard of soil/rock into my 6x10 dump trailer to get it spread out and below the trailer sides. More than once, they have compressed the trailer suspension dangerously far by nearly lifting the front wheels of the loader into the air.

 

[4570Man]

You might be on to something. Sometimes at the local nursery / landscape yards, the loader driver tries to squash my 3rd yard of soil/rock into my 6x10 dump trailer to get it spread out and below the trailer sides. More than once, they have compressed the trailer suspension dangerously far by nearly lifting the front wheels of the loader into the air.

I don’t see how they could’ve done that with the load that far below the sides. I’d lean more towards the dirt clumping together and falling out all at once.

 

[deezler]

^ yeah.... you're right. I see no evidence of a loader squash. But even a full yard or 1.5 yard dumped at once should not buckle a new pickup frame.

Alternate theory. Was the ram lifted with aftermarket suspension? That front looks pretty high, even given the situation. I dunno, I'm stumped.

 

[4570Man]

^ yeah.... you're right. I see no evidence of a loader squash. But even a full yard or 1.5 yard dumped at once should not buckle a new pickup frame.

Alternate theory. Was the ram lifted with aftermarket suspension? That front looks pretty high, even given the situation. I dunno, I'm stumped.

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That’s probably a 2-3 yard loader with a gravel bucket. I’ve seen mulch yards running oversized buckets on loaders that could increase the capacity more.

 

[BigBlue1]

This is a trailer with 3 yards of 3/4 minus red rock on it. This is a 16' 10K equipment trailer with sides (two 2x8 high). 3 yards of gravel puts me right at the load limit of my trailer. As you can see, the trailer in the gravel pit picture has much higher sides and the load looks much deeper.

That could well be around 15k pounds on that trailer and if it is not distributed well it may have 3-4K tongue weight. May be well over double the tongue weight rating of that 1500 and if it was dumped quickly would have been quite a point load.

Rob

 

[BigBlue1]

Would be interesting to know where the OP got that picture from. Maybe we could find the full story.

 

[ning]

Would be interesting to know where the OP got that picture from. Maybe we could find the full story.

I went through a few of the comments on this possible source and also found this gem there:

Of course in this particular situation, you have a dually (I see 19.5's, is that an F450?), but also a very heavy long camper which necessitates the use of an extended hitch... and from the angle of the trailer, it looks like a fairly long one (there's at least 10' from the front wheel to the front of the trailer box from my view).

If the trailer was loaded with a significant ratio to the front, that's multiplied because of the long hitch bar and maybe with a bit of road salt corrosion to the frame? Did someone drill the frame to attach the step bars?

 

[MechE1]

That RAM pic is interesting. I think, like most things, a combination of issues. I'd bet that load is somewhere around 5 yards/15000 lbs if a 16' trailer. I doubt that loader bucket would have that much volume. I don't see where the loader would have pressed down. But maybe even worse, if the bucket were somewhat packed and dumped from a higher than normal level to avoid the wood extensions could definitely have contributed to the dynamic loading. I think the static load is beyond maxed out, but I cannot see the static load "breaking" that frame like that. I think a slowly applied "static" load would have lifted the front off the ground before the frame yielded. This sure seems like an impact to me.

 

[Thomas]

^ yeah.... you're right. I see no evidence of a loader squash. But even a full yard or 1.5 yard dumped at once should not buckle a new pickup frame.

Alternate theory. Was the ram lifted with aftermarket suspension? That front looks pretty high, even given the situation. I dunno, I'm stumped.

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I'm surprise the operator didn't stop sooner even if pickup said it's okay.

 

[4570Man]

That RAM pic is interesting. I think, like most things, a combination of issues. I'd bet that load is somewhere around 5 yards/15000 lbs if a 16' trailer. I doubt that loader bucket would have that much volume. I don't see where the loader would have pressed down. But maybe even worse, if the bucket were somewhat packed and dumped from a higher than normal level to avoid the wood extensions could definitely have contributed to the dynamic loading. I think the static load is beyond maxed out, but I cannot see the static load "breaking" that frame like that. I think a slowly applied "static" load would have lifted the front off the ground before the frame yielded. This sure seems like an impact to me.

Screened topsoil isn’t very heavy. I was scaling about 15k with 9-10 yards on my truck.