Tell me what you see here?

[Steppenwolfe]

I thought he hired a concrete contractor to do it? The only thing I saw him do is walk around taking a selfie videos about his wifes concrete curb he had to do for her.

He said he hired "some help", I assumed he was in charge, and running the show. If those are "professionals" then he got boned. That is a very sloppy install for a professional.

 

[k0ua]

He said he hired "some help", I assumed he was in charge, and running the show. If those are "professionals" then he got boned. That is a very sloppy install for a professional.

The ironic part is he didn't know he got shafted. He even went so far as to recommend those guys. He was just so happy to get some concrete in his barn, he certainly overlooked some of the finer points. As they say "ignorance is bliss".

 

[Steppenwolfe]

The ironic part is he didn't know he got shafted. He even went so far as to recommend those guys. He was just so happy to get some concrete in his barn, he certainly overlooked some of the finer points. As they say "ignorance is bliss".

Very true. Maybe the price was right? Anyway, he sure seemed happy.

 

[Hay Dude]

He said he hired "some help", I assumed he was in charge, and running the show. If those are "professionals" then he got boned. That is a very sloppy install for a professional.

You know what happens when you assume. The whole point of the last 80 posts is he DID get “boned”. A bunch of us gave several different reasons why.
He hired a company to pour the concrete. I didn’t see him touch a tool. That’s a long reach from “The dude poured his own slab, for himself.“ All I see is a homeowner who hired a quick & dirty concrete contractor. It’s the contractor that did the pour, and probably the prep, too.

There also a good possibility that the home owner couldn’t afford a quality job, but it looks more like to me the contractor cut corners.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

You know what happens when you assume. The whole point of the last 80 posts is he DID get “boned”. A bunch of us gave several different reasons why.
He hired a company to pour the concrete. I didn’t see him touch a tool. That’s a long reach from “The dude poured his own slab, for himself.“ All I see is a homeowner who hired a quick & dirty concrete contractor. It’s the contractor that did the pour, and probably the prep, too.

There also a good possibility that the home owner couldn’t afford a quality job, but it looks more like to me the contractor cut corners.

OK... He sure seemed happy at the end; I bet that rubs you the wrong way as well.

 

[ovrszd]

OK... He sure seemed happy at the end; I bet that rubs you the wrong way as well.

This debate has been about the quality of the hired concrete professionals. I don't recall discussing whether the OP was happy.

 

[Hay Dude]

OK... He sure seemed happy at the end; I bet that rubs you the wrong way as well.

Always happy for people who get what they want.
That guy wanted a quick and dirty concrete job that will last a few years.
So Im happy for him, but that wasnt the premise of this thread. It was “tell me what you see here”, which was and remains- substandard concrete work.

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

 

[Hay Dude]

This debate has been about the quality of the hired concrete professionals. I don't recall discussing whether the OP was happy.

Exactly. For all we know, the concrete malfunctioned and he could be in heated discussions with the contractor, who did all the work, or he could be living on borrowed time, ignorant of what will eventually happen if equipment is parked on it.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Always happy for people who get what they want.
That guy wanted a quick and dirty concrete job that will last a few years.
So Im happy for him, but that wasnt the premise of this thread. It was “tell me what you see here”, which was and remains- substandard concrete work.

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

Yeah, that guy sure is blissful in his concrete job. I SAW a guy that was really happy. The concrete sucked... but, so do most posts on the subject.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Exactly. For all we know, the concrete malfunctioned and he could be in heated discussions with the contractor, who did all the work, or he could be living on borrowed time, ignorant of what will eventually happen if equipment is parked on it.

The concrete police just showed up...

 

[/pine]

I have to say again...what I am seeing "here" is a bunch of amateur, armchair quarterback opinions...based on a minimal amount of information..from peeps with a minimal amount of amateur experience...

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I have to say again...what I am seeing "here" is a bunch of amateur, armchair quarterback opinions...based on a minimal amount of information..from peeps with a minimal amount of amateur experience...

Sorry man... I agree 100%. :confused3:

 

[Hay Dude]

I have to say again...what I am seeing "here" is a bunch of amateur, armchair quarterback opinions...based on a minimal amount of information..from peeps with a minimal amount of amateur experience...

With limited due respect, Ive been doing concrete work for 40 years. I dont care if you poured the concrete foundation for the Pentagon, the base for the floor was incorrectly prepped, the rebar was too low and incorrectly prepped and Id bet the mix was not the right slump. A number of TBN members concur.

Im not going to look at this thread again but your overview of everyone being an amateur or minimally informed "here" is incorrect. In fact, I read more correct than incorrect observations here.
Have a good night, though. Hope I wasnt too blunt or succinct for ya...I just disagree

 

[dodge man]

I also was an inspector and concrete tester over the years have watched a lot of concrete work done. It was a hack job. IF they used plasticizer the concrete might not have been too wet but based on other appearances I’d say the concrete was just too wet. I would have loved to break a couple of test cylinders of that stuff.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I also as an inspector and concrete tester over the years have watched a lot of concrete work done. It was a hack job. IF they used plasticizer the concrete might not have been too wet but based on other appearances I’d say the concrete was just too wet. I would have loved to break a couple of test cylinders of that stuff.

I think slash's point was well made; I believe he was a career contractor. I am a licensed general contractor in 35 states, I have seen my share of flat work myself. Yeah, the guy got a sloppy hack job, and probably by design and budget constraints. Yes, it was also most likely a waste of close to 50 yards of concrete. A lot can be learned from that video, don'ts and don'ts for sure. My take in the end the guy seemed really happy, so why rain on his parade. ?

 

[/pine]

With limited due respect, Ive been doing concrete work for 40 years. I dont care if you poured the concrete foundation for the Pentagon, the base for the floor was incorrectly prepped, the rebar was too low and incorrectly prepped and Id bet the mix was not the right slump. A number of TBN members concur.

Im not going to look at this thread again but your overview of everyone being an amateur or minimally informed "here" is incorrect. In fact, I read more correct than incorrect observations here.
Have a good night, though. Hope I wasnt too blunt or succinct for ya...I just disagree

LoL...Are you now or have you ever been a licensed general or masonry contractor, architect, engineer? were you ever employed by said professionals as a career ?...if not your opinions are those of an amateur...there are lots of amateur contractors out there...

BTW FWIW... the biggest job I ever had responsibility for was several portions of the (new) 7 mile bridge in the FL keys...as a contractor for Misener Marine...

Oh I almost forgot...I never did any work for the DoD (Pentagon etc.) but I did turn down a chance to work for the State dept....the job was going to Russia and working on the second US embassy building...after the original new one was found to be loaded with bugs and eavesdropping equipment...that was for the Brown company...

 

[ovrszd]

If the video is viewed it takes zero experience or credentials to recognize an extremely poor quality pour.

If the OP is happy so is everyone here.

 

[/pine]

...If the video is viewed it takes zero experience or credentials to recognize an extremely poor quality pour....

"Recognition" based on what ??

... I would have loved to break a couple of test cylinders of that stuff.

Post a comment or contact the man in the video and offer to pay for a Swiss hammer test...!

 

[MossRoad]

LoL...Are you now or have you ever been a licensed general or masonry contractor, architect, engineer? were you ever employed by said professionals as a career ?...if not your opinions are those of an amateur...there are lots of amateur contractors out there...

BTW FWIW... the biggest job I ever had responsibility for was several portions of the (new) 7 mile bridge in the FL keys...as a contractor for Misener Marine...

Oh I almost forgot...I never did any work for the DoD (Pentagon etc.) but I did turn down a chance to work for the State dept....the job was going to Russia and working on the second US embassy building...after the original new one was found to be loaded with bugs and eavesdropping equipment...that was for the Brown company...

But you didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.... :laughing:

It was a sub-par job. Doesn't mean it won't last for eternity, but it was a sub-par job.

 

[k0ua]

the job was going to Russia and working on the second US embassy building...after the original new one was found to be loaded with bugs and eavesdropping equipment

Well, not only was it loaded with bugs, BUT it included thousands of semiconductor devices in the concrete mix. The way some bug detectors work is by having a low power transmitter running with built in receivers running at the same time. The idea is to actually find semiconductor devises with the RF energy emitted by the transmitter that will react with semiconductors (diodes and transistors) and they will emit harmonic energy on the 2nd, 3rd and so on harmonics of the fundamental frequency they are bombarded with. The idea of putting thousands of diodes and transistors in the concrete is so that bug detectors will be ineffective, because it will find "bugs" everywhere, all the time.

Another wonderful "gift" from the Soviet people was a metal eagle wall hanging . This thing was analysed by "experts" and it was just a hollow piece of statuary. Totally harmless right? Well not so much. When our Ruskie adversary's shined infrared laser beams at this thing, the fact that the statuary was a good audio resonator and picked up and resonated to even low level conversations in the room and then would in turn modulate the invisible laser beam reflections off of this object with the audio in the room. The scattered now frequency modulated laser beams could be detected outside of the building and de-modulated to recover the audio. This is a totally passive listening device with no electronics involved inside that room. Pretty smart for a bunch of spies. The US eventually did figure it out of course.

I know this doesn't have much to do with the sub par concrete floor job the happy fella got, but I think this conversation has truly run its course.