Corona Virus #6

[pennwalk]

Some people have no clue! My wife's boss was talking of calling a management meeting. She gave him the look. That's the one I try hard not receive. How does she do that over the phone?

Chris

 

[MossRoad]

Minister and music person, undertaker just leaves 6 mourners... Guess that will have to do..

Minister might not come to mine. Afraid of bursting into flames and such.

Seriously, though, I asked my wife to have me cremated and have a party at a convenient time later. As to what they'd be celebrating, my life, or my demise, is up to them. :laughing:

 

[Diggin It]

This from a resident doctor on a TV network.

People need to stop listening to TV doctors.

 

[LouNY]

Minister might not come to mine. Afraid of bursting into flames and such.

Seriously, though, I asked my wife to have me cremated and have a party at a convenient time later. As to what they'd be celebrating, my life, or my demise, is up to them. :laughing:

Yea, I need to get my butt in gear and get everything set up at Saratoga National.
A bucket of ashes for me and my wife and stick us up in the wall.
I figure the more I'm ready the less necessary.
Also the ashes don't need a hearse, a Harley will work good, and won't need 6 pall bears that releases them to carry the beer.

 

[IslandTractor]

Its good to see Fauci is still around, after he missed a couple of press conferences.

Yep. Pray for his good health. He is the only medical professional/scientist on the task force telling it like it is. And even he is not actually an epidemiologist.

The Surgeon General (of USPHS) is a toadie. Useless politically cleaned up comments.
Deborah Birks is reasonable on camera but is an long term program director type not a practicing epidemiologist. She also has to "conform" and support WH statements from people who know next to nothing about epidemiology
The Director of the CDC is missing in action. No clue why he has been sidelined as former directors like Tom Frieden have been making reasonable comments from the sidelines.
Anne Schuchat who is a deputy director at CDC with same infectious disease training as Fauci plus is a career CDC epidemiologist has been silenced.
Various Division heads at CDC (Hospital infection control, Special Pathogens, etc) are not allowed to talk.

I'm a retired pediatric infectious disease and hospital epidemiology MD who did virology research and the only people I trust speaking about this pandemic on TV are Fauci and Bill Schaffner (Vanderbilt MD who is often a spokesperson for the ID societies)

I fully understand the need to get the economy moving again but it is wrong to push that issue before we have a better handle on how fast this pandemic is moving. Economists and politicians need to be heard but to have them pushing for an early end to strict social distancing is similar to having them tell your surgeon where to make an incision or when to operate. Not who you want making the informed decisions. At some point it will be appropriate to take economic and political factors into account but right now, with cases doubling every two days in some areas, is not the time.

 

[5030]

Yea, I need to get my butt in gear and get everything set up at Saratoga National.
A bucket of ashes for me and my wife and stick us up in the wall.
I figure the more I'm ready the less necessary.
Also the ashes don't need a hearse, a Harley will work good, and won't need 6 pall bears that releases them to carry the beer.

Don't take a bucket, small box will hold them all. We did that (last wishes) long ago. Even have the grave stones set. Cremation is the best way actually, heat kills any latent germs (virus included). Lately when we get cash we handle it with latex gloves and it goes in the toaster oven and heated to 200 degrees for 30 minutes to kill any germs. Currency, gas pump handles and key pads (anywhere) are loaded with germs and possibly virus germs too. Not taking any chances.

 

[rswyan]

Yep. Pray for his good health. He is the only medical professional/scientist on the task force telling it like it is. And even he is not actually an epidemiologist.

The Surgeon General (of USPHS) is a toadie. Useless politically cleaned up comments.
Deborah Birks is reasonable on camera but is an long term program director type not a practicing epidemiologist. She also has to "conform" and support WH statements from people who know next to nothing about epidemiology
The Director of the CDC is missing in action. No clue why he has been sidelined as former directors like Tom Frieden have been making reasonable comments from the sidelines.
Anne Schuchat who is a deputy director at CDC with same infectious disease training as Fauci plus is a career CDC epidemiologist has been silenced.
Various Division heads at CDC (Hospital infection control, Special Pathogens, etc) are not allowed to talk.

I'm a retired pediatric infectious disease and hospital epidemiology MD who did virology research and the only people I trust speaking about this pandemic on TV are Fauci and Bill Schaffner (Vanderbilt MD who is often a spokesperson for the ID societies)

I fully understand the need to get the economy moving again but it is wrong to push that issue before we have a better handle on how fast this pandemic is moving. Economists and politicians need to be heard but to have them pushing for an early end to strict social distancing is similar to having them tell your surgeon where to make an incision or when to operate. Not who you want making the informed decisions. At some point it will be appropriate to take economic and political factors into account but right now, with cases doubling every two days in some areas, is not the time.

So Doc, then basically what we're seeing and hearing is largely a political response ... rather than a public health response ?

I'm shocked.

And can you speak some more on the high transmissibility + novel virus aspect of COVID and what that could portend ?

 

[5030]

I see there is a mass exodus from NYC as the rats are fleeing the ship (and taking their virus germs with them). Reminds me of the movie 'Escape from New York'. Every center of concentrated population is suspect. Don't believe any will be spared. Name your city and name the virus uptick.

No cases out here in 'Fly Over Country' yet. Fine with me. Lately, when I even get near others, I get aprehensive. I'm not trusting of people in general right now.

 

[RandyT]

I think we are learning there are some younger people who have unknown underlying health issues.

You need to take into consideration that there is something like 54% of school age children have a lifelong chronic issue.

 

[k0ua]

My post was to highlight how the virus can be spread and also to make others aware that in some areas "outsiders" may not be welcome. This "resentment" to outsiders is present under the best of times. This "resentment" may not be justified but it is there...I have seen it. Many citiots, who barely know their neighbors 25 yards away, do not realize the dynamics are different where everyone knows each other for miles. I was one of those citiots, so speak from experience. Maybe the remote area I live in is unique...but I doubt it. You can accept my experience or ignore it...your choice. It is a fact here.

Secondly, the way things are shaping up, there is little to no chance of being transferred to an large urban center for treatment of this virus. The hospitals there are soon to be overwhelmed so the option becomes moot. In my opinion, I will be safer staying out of a hospital full of Coviid-19 patients, having someone pick up whatever drug(s) are suggested, and medicating at home. I will take my chances in my little slice of heaven. If you feel safer near a large hospital, stay there...you could be right.

Thirdly, if the virus is slowed getting to rural areas, those areas have a higher probably of benefiting from advancements in treatment that are being made. We know social distancing works. Some folks may go a step farther and consider anti-social distancing is a good way too effect that.

Fear makes people do stupid things.

A very well thought thru post. Being transferred to an urban area is a lot like a death sentence.