Corona Virus #4

[Diggin It]

Oh, OK.

This is not the flu. The administration from the top down is addressing it as to what it is. A new contagion that has created a global pandemic.

Look beyond your political views.

Perhaps you meant, 'A new illness that has created a global panic'?

 

[newbury]

What's regular flu got to do with this?

Quite a bit - the symptoms start about the same. Many people, especially the younger, can sluff it off easily yet still be contagious. Thus there can be a large cohort of carriers spreading it around to the unsuspecting old people like many of us.

 

[rswyan]

WHO considers 'airborne precautions' for medical staff after study shows coronavirus can survive in air

 

[daugen]

I agree Newbury, biggest challenge seems to be knowing what you have, and does having a "regular" flu make you any
more likely to be more susceptible to Covid if you are exposed. Your immunity is already down fighting the regular flu.

in Walmart folks sort of moved off to the side of each other, like moving over for a big truck coming at you. That's good,
showing an understanding of the six foot or whatever you choose radius. Was like opposite pole magnets pushing each other away.
Pollen has been so heavy here lately hard not to sneeze at times, and then folks look at you like you are Typhoid Mary.

 

[rswyan]

Thanks RS, nice to hear from you.

Likewise

 

[5030]

Campers and hikers use them a lot. I've seen them in several outdoors type stores like Dick's.

Ah yes, the picture on the box and the contents are usually nothing alike. Cardboard food, just add water....:laughing:

 

[daugen]

RS, thanks, troubling article, makes one wonder what did I just walk through?
They weren't very specific how long it can stay airborne, lot of variables I suppose

makes a good case for wearing a mask in public if you are going into buildings with other people in it.
Not good info out there what kind of mask one should wear. Can anyone confirm that? I read somewhere N95 was the
minimum but think that was heresay. Would a paint respirator be the minimum?

I also wonder if our eyelashes are adequate to keep this airborne junk out of our eyes. Probably not.

 

[daugen]

one thing this virus has done is jack up my email volume. Between family and extended family checking on each other,
plus we are literally getting bombarded from everywhere with we are here to help messages from all kinds of organizations.
And then you get all the cancellation/postponement emails. Just a lot of volume to wade through, plus many of us are spending more time
inside at a computer than we normally do. Of course I'm waiting for it to warm up a bit, at least 50. Old bones like the heat.
Then off to plant flowers and complete forget about all of this. Life goes on.

 

[Diggin It]

t folks sort of moved off to the side of each other, like moving over for a big truck coming at you. That's good,
showing an understanding of the six foot or whatever you choose radius. Was like opposite pole magnets pushing each other away.

See, I always do that simply because I don't like people, so I strive to stay clear of them.

Pollen has been so heavy here lately hard not to sneeze at times, and then folks look at you like you are Typhoid Mary.

That's why I've been hacking and coughing for years. My sinuses are shot. And yeah, a lot of mine is a dry cough. But at the last couple of checkups before all this started, the Docs said I could breath fine. I can't, so I don't know if they know what they think they know or not.

 

[rswyan]

RS, thanks, troubling article, makes one wonder what did I just walk through?
They weren't very specific how long it can stay airborne, lot of variables I suppose
makes a good case for wearing a mask in public if you are going into buildings with other people in it.

Kyle commented on this (the hang time of aerosols) recently in one of the CV threads. He may have some experience or familiarity with testing done on it (not CV specifically, just aerosols generally)

Had to give him the

Not good info out there what kind of mask one should wear. Can anyone confirm that? I read somewhere N95 was the
minimum but think that was heresay. Would a paint respirator be the minimum?

I also wonder if our eyelashes are adequate to keep this airborne junk out of our eyes. Probably not.

No idea.

Stay home and quit going out if at all possible.

 

[ovrszd]

Don't you hate it when somebody deletes a post just after you've responded or quoted it? It was a pretty lame comment, but I would have left it up if I realized somebody had read it.

Yes and/or alters it.

 

[D2Cat]

I've posted this before, but it give a graphic example of what happens when we're out in a close group.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

 

[riptides]

I've posted this before, but it give a graphic example of what happens when we're out in a close group.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

Yes. It was a good find. It should be a sticky on the forum.

 

[riptides]

Yes. It was a good find. It should be a sticky on the forum.

And my sarcastic/poor humor response is -

Where is the red bubble infected person/people running at double speed through the population simulator? The panic population.

 

[ruffdog]

I've posted this before, but it give a graphic example of what happens when we're out in a close group.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

Notice, when you run every simulator, every person gets infected. That means many of the sick or fragile will die regardless what the curve of the chart is.

 

[ruffdog]

And my sarcastic/poor humor response is -

Where is the red bubble infected person/people running at double speed through the population simulator? The panic population.

Maybe the "panic population" are the ones that have a box around them for the duration of the simulation.

 

[shooterdon]

I've posted this before, but it give a graphic example of what happens when we're out in a close group.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

good visual

 

[CobyRupert]

I've posted this before, but it give a graphic example of what happens when we're out in a close group.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

Interesting.
It's important to "flatten the curve" to not overwhelm the ICU bed, respirator capacity in "our" healthcare "system"..
...the flip side is that social distancing and flattening the curve prolongs the epidemic over a longer time-span. Maybe that's why we're starting to hear "until July/August".

I wonder when "crisis fatigue" becomes a factor and (young) people start saying "Oh, just give me the virus and get it over with!"

 

[newbury]

Notice, when you run every simulator, every person gets infected. That means many of the sick or fragile will die regardless what the curve of the chart is.

The problem is sucking up hospital resources with a steep curve, causing deaths due to triage choices.

Interesting.
It's important to "flatten the curve" to not overwhelm the ICU bed, respirator capacity in "our" healthcare "system"..
...the flip side is that social distancing and flattening the curve prolongs the epidemic over a longer time-span. Maybe that's why we're starting to hear "until July/August".

I wonder when "crisis fatigue" becomes a factor and (young) people start saying "Oh, just give me the virus and get it over with!"

Many of us old fogies are wanting the curve flattened so there will be hospital resources available.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Nope ... at this point, the phobia needs to be at far more basic level: ... your fellow individual human being ... regardless of where they hail from.

In this particular instance, it isn't a bad thing.

Thanks for this awesome link. What we can expect curve slope wise is very concerning.