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   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,881  
They will mount.

EF125 Mulching Blade Set |

Not sure about imbalance though. It may or may not be an issue. As far as I am staying with 50/50 and they are spread equally, that should be balanced, right?

Question to Leonz.
Apparently Betstco discontinued all blades.
I was going to order "wings" referenced to in my previous post, to get better horizontal cut. So here I am.
My Y blades are mounted on a horizontal bolt, with 2 metal sleeves on each side, between the mounting brackets. So I have quite a leeway in getting wider mounting surface hammers in or same mounting width horizontal blades.
I am mowing grass only on partially very uneven terrain, with plenty of small rocks. That's what soil here is - rocky clay.
I am not sure how many Y blades mounting points I have. Something tells me 54 but I might be wrong, it's Betstco 59 inch tow behind mower.
Any recommendation on horizontal blade then?
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,882  
Hello and good morning ukrkoz,

As for Betstco no longer offering flail mower knives that hoovers as "Bucky Cat" from the "Get Fuzzy" comic strip would say.

I hope the weather is favorable for mowing today where you are.

Now on to business; Each of your mounting stations has 2 spacers to allow you to mount and use the side slicer pairs to mow and keep them centered in each mounting station.

If you have 3 rows of mounting stations you will have 18 mounting stations per row if the are linear meaning straight across.

The cutting width of the scoop knife is what is going to determine how many scoop knives you can mount per row. In a spiral mounting method on a flail mower rotor that will not be an issue as the cutting edges will overlap as the spiral twists in each orbit like a drill bit or an earth auger.


If you could upload a few picture images of the flail mower rotor that would help me and the members that have your flail mower in their stables as well.

The full width of the scoop knife is what will determine your number of knife edges per row of knife mounting stations if your flail mower rotor has mounting stations that are linear-straight across.

The scoop knife will be a lot more forgiving as far as terrain goes and will still give you a good cut but you will need to mow at right angles to get a better finish and reduce the amount of waffle cut look after you mow.

The scoop knife will be mounted in the center of the mounting station with the spacers on either side of the mounting hole in the scoop knife to hold it in place and prevent it from sliding back and forth.

If you can purchase the scoop knives from flailmaster or clean cutter for the flail mower you have all the better. I look forward to hearing more form you.

I always mention to the members that if they can replace the mounting bolts with fine thread allen head bolts and 2 allen spring washers all the better as it reduces the amount of bruised and bloddy knuckles and money going in to the swear jar. The main worry is whether you need 2 metric 12 point wrenches to remove the existing nut and bolt.

Using a long allen wrench allows you to place the box end wrench on the nut and just move the allen wrench until the box end wrench meets some resistance on the flail mower rotor shell. If you can wash it with very very hot water all the better as the dust and fine clippings will be washed away from the nuts and bolts.


I look forward to hearing more form you when you have the time to chat.


leonz


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Question to Leonz.
Apparently Betstco discontinued all blades.
I was going to order "wings" referenced to in my previous post, to get better horizontal cut. So here I am.
My Y blades are mounted on a horizontal bolt, with 2 metal sleeves on each side, between the mounting brackets. So I have quite a leeway in getting wider mounting surface hammers in or same mounting width horizontal blades.
I am mowing grass only on partially very uneven terrain, with plenty of small rocks. That's what soil here is - rocky clay.
I am not sure how many Y blades mounting points I have. Something tells me 54 but I might be wrong, it's Betstco 59 inch tow behind mower.
Any recommendation on horizontal blade then?
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,883  
Hello Sidpost,

Its the one that they recommend for wet well grinders that do not have angle setting gauges on the tool rest.
If and when you call woodcraft and tell them what you need for the micromark sharpener that has no angle setting
marks for the tool rest and they will know which gauge you need.


It has been many months since I looked at the catalogs as the winter dreariness set in early for me and as I am
recuperating and stuck inside.




leonz
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,884  
Lengthening the toplink forces the flail to rotate backwards which pushes the rear roller down and increases the cutting edge to ground distance.

Aaron Z

Yep, I understand that part, use the slot or just the hole?
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,885  
Could you identify which model and make grinder you recommend. The one I found was a .7 amp machine for sharpening woodworking tools.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,886  
Sorry, didn't get the joke. I am guy with accent, too deep for me.
I am firm hex bolts and nuts are easier to work with than Allen heads. And I work with Allen heads professionally, Velcro and Allen heads is my middle initial.

Anyhow. I have 4 rows 8 blade stations each. Not spiral arrangement obviously. Checker board.
yes, waffle effect is quite observable. Give it about 5 -6 days, and it clearly shows itself.

Also, pics of part of the property that is hills and valleys and wetland, for better understanding of what I mow. Needs dozer and nuking it into flat surface, except that wetland is not permitted to be changed. Plant on it, mow, sure. Nothing else.

So I am all for horizontal cut blades, just not sure which ones.

thank you.
 

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   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,887  
Could you identify which model and make grinder you recommend. The one I found was a .7 amp machine for sharpening woodworking tools.

Simply buy regular grinder cheap from Harbor Freight, buy can of tuna, give tuna to animal of your choice, clean empty can, fill with water and set next to grinder wheel. Dip blade into water, to cool it down, after every pass on the grinding wheel. No need to psend $200 onto a "specialty" grinder that has "coolant well" installed. I worked as tool and dye maker and have been sharpening my tools for decades. Water in any suitable vessel next to grinder works just fine.
Point is not to allow blade to turn blue or even brown/yellow. If this happens, it becomes annealed and softer. Then it's easier to be bent/damaged. Dulls faster. You could heat treat it yourself, no big deal really. Get blade edge white hot with a torch then dip into oil. Not water, it may crack. Then use same torch to heat it up till it starts turning yellow, like straw yellow. That should give you about 58-60 Rockwell scale hardness on carbon instrumental steel. I am not familiar with SAE steels classification, that's what we called them back in 'ol country. Higher carbon percentage. Though those blades are likely made out of what we called "construction steel", ST45. Has low carbon percentage, higher tensile resistance. So it is adequately hard yet plastic enough to bend, not to snap during impact.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,888  
I have the exact same wet well sharpener but with Craftsman name on it.

It's a fine sharpener for woodworking chisels, knives, maybe even occasionally axe and such but I would never even try to use it for flail mower blades or any mower blades for that matter.

It was intended for lighter duty sharpening and will do pretty good job at that.

Just my opinion based on personal experience on using one.

Delta also has similar in their GR050 Shopmaster Utility Wet Dry Grinder. I've had mine for about 15 years.

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   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,889  
Hello hunt4570,

to maintain better control and cutting height for your flail mower you need to use the single mounting hole on the three point hitch.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,890  
Could you identify which model and make grinder you recommend. The one I found was a .7 amp machine for sharpening woodworking tools.

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Good Morning Mr. Blackwell,

The micromark wet well grinder is item #86566 for $129.95 plus tax and freight; Ugh, They are not on sale now :^(

The Angle setting tool from woodcraft is the Tormek angle master #129354: $29.00; plus tax and freight.


I still use my 30+ year old WEN wet well grinder that has worked really well for me. Apparently it is no longer made :^((.
 
 

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