30x50x16 pole barn construction

747driver · Jul 28, 2018

Morton started on Friday ! 2 man crew for the foundation. That perma column system is great. So today I finished putting the stone around the grade boards. Easier to do it with no walls up. They will put the walls and trusses up come Monday . Nice to watch a crew do the work !

jfh28 · Jul 28, 2018

looks nice!.......keep showing the progress.........Jack

747driver · Jul 29, 2018

Morton Perma Column Installation - YouTube

First time posting a video from YouTube that I videoed. Hopefully it comes through. How do you get the video to come through without me having to post as a link ?

After all the columns are set and backfilled they come back and re-check all the heights and adjust if necessary. They don't fill the entire hole with concrete. Only the bottom 2' where there is rebar attached to the bottom of the column.

GLyford · Jul 30, 2018

Put the word "video" in square brackets [] in front of the link. Repeat at the end but use "/video".

Should look something like this

747driver · Jul 30, 2018

GLyford said:
Put the word "video" in square brackets [] in front of the link. Repeat at the end but use "/video".

Should look something like this
[video=youtube;e3rwyf68hfc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3rwyf68

Thanks for the tip ! Thats what I was looking for.....

EddieWalker · Jul 30, 2018

Interesting. Thanks for posting so many pics!!!

747driver · Jul 30, 2018

EddieWalker said:
Interesting. Thanks for posting so many pics!!!

Thanks Eddie !!! We all here like to see pics of progress....

ovrszd · Jul 30, 2018

Lookin forward to your progress.

747driver · Jul 31, 2018

Day 2 and the walls are up snd trusses set. Only a 2 msn crew but those machines make all the difference. The trusses will get bolted when the roof is put down.

747driver · Aug 2, 2018

747driver said:
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Day 3 got the vented soffits in, doors trimmed out. Protective liner panels should help in keeping things hitting the siding from the inside. Ready for the roof but it has rained the last 2 days.

two_bit_score · Aug 2, 2018

Nice! Thanks for the pics. :thumbsup:

buckeyefarmer · Aug 2, 2018

Very nice. Love the permacolumns, wish i had them. Took me a few months of building mine by myself to get to where you are at in 3 days.

EddieWalker · Aug 2, 2018

They sure are fast!!! What are they using for your roof purlins, and how far apart are your trusses? Looks like 2x4's on edge spanning ten feet, but that doesn't make any sense to me.

skipperbrown · Aug 2, 2018

Are these Morton employees or does Morton sub out different parts of the work?

747driver · Aug 2, 2018

buckeyefarmer said:
Very nice. Love the permacolumns, wish i had them. Took me a few months of building mine by myself to get to where you are at in 3 days.

I just don't have the time to build it myself. Plus with 16' ft walls and my age I don't care to be up that high anymore !! The perma columns are the way to go though...

747driver · Aug 2, 2018

EddieWalker said:
They sure are fast!!! What are they using for your roof purlins, and how far apart are your trusses? Looks like 2x4's on edge spanning ten feet, but that doesn't make any sense to me.

Yes....they are on 10' centers. 2x4s are on edge. I questioned the 10' ft centers but Morton has it engineered to go this way. Its all based on snow load and no ceiling being installed. We get very little snow here. Most everything comes pre-cut so it goes together quicker. Everything is nailed with coated ring shank nails.

747driver · Aug 2, 2018

skipperbrown said:
Are these Morton employees or does Morton sub out different parts of the work?

All are Morton employees. Only thing subbed out is the 2 big doors....Overhead door from Knoxville will install these.

ovrszd · Aug 2, 2018

Why the plywood along the wainscoat??

Thank you again for excellent pics!!!

747driver · Aug 2, 2018

ovrszd said:
Why the plywood along the wainscoat??

Thank you again for excellent pics!!!

I elected to add this 7/16" panel for protection to the metal siding from inside the building. Just in case I or someone else makes a bad move with something... Or if the mower slings a rock or something, it won't puncture the metal siding. So lets hope the DW makes the first scar on the siding !!

EddieWalker · Aug 3, 2018

747driver said:
Yes....they are on 10' centers. 2x4s are on edge. I questioned the 10' ft centers but Morton has it engineered to go this way. Its all based on snow load and no ceiling being installed. We get very little snow here. Most everything comes pre-cut so it goes together quicker. Everything is nailed with coated ring shank nails.

While I have full confidence in Morton and their engineers, I seriously question the use of a 2x4 on edge over a ten foot span. Their reputation of building quality buildings is well established, as is their reputation of inventing newer, faster ways to build a building. My concern is that every time that I've seen a 2x4 span 8 feet, it sags. A lot of the time it's just being stored for future use, and over time, it will sag under it's own weight.

In every building that I've seen, and everything that I've read, to span ten feet, you need to be using 2x8's on edge.