Snow Orange on Red

dnw64 · Dec 12, 2017

irvingj said:
Gloss black paint I applied to the inside of the auger housing has also worked surprisingly well at shedding snow -- wish now I had hit the auger surfaces and fan blades, too!

Have you tried Fluid Film? I got some earlier this year and then forgot about it until I was scraping all the caked on stuff after Sunday morning's cleanup. Have it on now and will see how it works tonight.

I put UHMW on the back of the chute/deflector yesterday too. Looking forward to seeing how that works. The linear actuator for the deflector made out well in its first event, tonight I also get to check out the real world effectiveness of the light bar on the front and 2 LED work lights on the back.

dnw64 · Dec 12, 2017

Well I wasn't impressed by the FluidFilm. I wouldn't say it was worse, but not appreciably better.

My lights and the UHMW chute liner, OTOH, were worth the effort.

irvingj · Dec 14, 2017

Well, here I go again, drooling over a cab... I have a great place to park my tractor, but it just doesn't allow for a top of any kind... Guess I'll just continue drooling!

Nice lights! Another justification for the cab, I'm thinking...:roll eyes: When blowing, they really do need to be up fairly high to be effective.

As far as the paint, I know it'll wear off eventually, but it sure works well for now!

dnw64 · Dec 14, 2017

Loving my remote chute deflector too. This was before I oiled the hinge so it's a little jerky. Pretty smooth now.

irvingj · Dec 19, 2017

When I bought my TLB (plus blower) back in 2007, the dealer only sold blowers with the factory electric chute controls mounted. Never regretted it! Not real fast, but definitely nice to have. OEM deflector is similar to your set-up but mounted on the side. (Bet yours works better and cost less!!)

dnw64 · Dec 19, 2017

I thought about side mounting, but like the symmetrical aspect of being in the center.

I used a 2" travel actuator and ramped up the geometry to make it faster. If I had used a 4" one it would take twice as long. Speed is just about right.

BTW, my new cutting edge came in Black... Wish I had realized how simple it is. Would have just bought a piece of high carbon steel, cut to length and blow out the holes with my (son's) plasma cutter. Also would got a piece a bit wider than the factory one - doesn't seem much wider than the one that's worn out.

irvingj · Dec 21, 2017

I like your center-mount also, for the same reason. I can see mine cant off center a bit when it operates, creating a bit of binding.

Scraper blade-- yep, that's what I've done: went to a local steel fabricator, had them cut to length a wider piece and make the square holes (I really don't have that capability). Still was cheaper than the M-F replacement part, even with a wider piece of steel. Do keep in mind that the scrapers can be reversed after one edge is worn... but you probably already knew that....

dnw64 · Dec 21, 2017

It's really pretty ridiculous. Cost me over $90 for a 1/4 x 3 x 4' piece of steel. Of course, it's the "right size", has square holes in the right place, etc. Interestingly enough, the local dealer I ordered it from is apparently on COD from AGCO.... AND left the UPS COD label on which shows they paid more in COD than they charged me...

Langanobob · Dec 29, 2017

=timbrehse;3959435] While the subframes and mid PTO shafts may differ,
this is for anyone who has any remaining doubts about the interchangability of Red, Blue, Orange quick hitch

From the Orange online build a tractor pricing, Kubota has discontinued the two current models of snow blowers (BX2750=MF2360) and the newest offering, which is to become available November 1st is the BX5450. priced at $1999.
The NEW BX5450 blower comes with a standard manual crank chute rotator, upgraded outer shoes on the edges of the blower along with heavier steel material for building the snowblower housing as well as the overall body of the snowblower is a bit beefier.
they also are offering a wider 55 inch blower the BX5455HD. this comes with standard hydraulic chute rotator and heavier gauge construction like the BX5450.

Blue's 50CS is the updated vs. as well (skid shoes on the outside)
I guess this means Massey has decided to wait 'till next yr to update?

Timbrehse, Did you buy the MF PTO shaft and the MF2360 mount kit, or were you able to use the orange versions of the shaft and mounting kit? I have been looking at a New Holland 63CS blower and its mount and PTO shaft look to be a lot different than the MF2360 versions.
Thanks,

timbrehse · Jan 27, 2018

Langanobob said:
Timbrehse, Did you buy the MF PTO shaft and the MF2360 mount kit, or were you able to use the orange versions of the shaft and mounting kit? I have been looking at a New Holland 63CS blower and its mount and PTO shaft look to be a lot different than the MF2360 versions.
Thanks,

Sorry Langanbob - I haven't checked this forum in a while.

The mount is referred to as the Quick-Hitch subframe. It has a lift cylinder, hoses and a mid PTO shaft.
Looks like this:

Front implements, Snow blower, Rotary Broom, Blade all have a female receiver:

I got the sub frame, minus the mid PTO Shaft, when I bought my MF 2330 Rotary Broom
The Mid PTO Shaft was a bit difficult to locate at the time. (I was able to order it from Jack's Small Engines)
The same Canadian company makes the Subframe, Snow Blowers, and Rotary Brooms for Red, Orange, and Blue tractors.
The Red Massey Blower is MF2360 (older design)
The Orange is BX5450 (new design)
and The Blue is 50CS (new design)
All are 50" snow blowers and are interchangeable tho I've been told there is a slight difference in Mid PTO rpm's and so the gearing of the chain driven augers are slightly different.
While that may very well be true, my Orange Blower mounted on my Red tractor does a fine job now in it's 3rd year.
What you are looking at in a New Holland 63CS is.... a 63" Blower which is not made to function on a 22-25hp subcompact tractor.
Different (bigger) animal

timbrehse · Jan 27, 2018

Here's a little Orange on Red action

timbrehse · Jan 27, 2018

Rotation

irvingj · Jan 28, 2018

Hey, timbrehse, that's my tractor! (Nice pic, huh!) Thought I recognized those paint chips on the sub-frame....

BTW, I get a "This video is unavailable" message when I click on your videos above.

timbrehse · Jan 30, 2018

irvingj said:
Hey, timbrehse, that's my tractor! (Nice pic, huh!) Thought I recognized those paint chips on the sub-frame....

BTW, I get a "This video is unavailable" message when I click on your videos above.

Ha! IJ, Those pics were very useful for illustration purposes ... so thanks!

BTW - I fixed the videos
Since you own a Massey vs. of the blower, I'd be interested in what you think of the throw of my Orange by comparison
I keep thinking of a post by Jaylegger a while back about having to change the BX5450's impeller gearing to
better match-up w/the Massey Mid PTO which cranks@ 2000rpm while the Kubota's is @2500rpm
Tho as is, it doesn't seem to be laboring even in deeper snow ... and I really don't need to send the snow into the next county.....

irvingj · Jan 31, 2018

I'd have a hard time saying if one threw snow further... yours looks just about like mine as far as distance. Dry snow, with enough depth to get some load, mine will throw a good 30-40 feet. Worst case wet stuff, perhaps around 20 feet. I run my tractor around 2000 rpm, only push it up to the white mark in the worst conditions.

timbrehse · Jan 31, 2018

irvingj said:
I'd have a hard time saying if one threw snow further... yours looks just about like mine as far as distance. Dry snow, with enough depth to get some load, mine will throw a good 30-40 feet. Worst case wet stuff, perhaps around 20 feet. I run my tractor around 2000 rpm, only push it up to the white mark in the worst conditions.

I'm sure if I ran the flapper up a bit higher it'd throw the snow further but this really isn't a competitive exercise.
I have to be careful where I point the chute so as not to bury my generator or the outdoor compressors for the Fridg & Freezer.
I also have to be conscious of not knocking down bat houses & bird feeders in the process or shooting snow all over the bottom of my neighbor's d-way
We don't get the volume of snowfall as you prob get in NH. My real wish would be for a garage big enough to be able to easily maneuver & swap the blower out for the rotary broom.
It would be a much better config. for these nuisance 1/4-1/2" events that if not cleaned up, lead to icy tracks packed down on the steep part.
Anyway - I think I'll leave the Orange gear sprockets as is. Doesn't seem to be laboring or straining the motor even though the PTO is supposedly turning 500rpm slower than optimal (for the orange)
And btw - I don't have a tach but I thought the idea (w/ the TBL2310) was to snow-blow @ full throttle

irvingj · Jan 31, 2018

No, I don't usually find it necessary to run at full (white mark) PTO/engine rpm. I adjust according to conditions, always with a mind to minimize fuel usage. (A born Yankee -- hey, I may be cheap... but I'm cheap!)

What you might find works for those "nuisance" 1-1/2/" snowfalls is what I do: use a good, commercial-grade garage floor squeegee. I can do my whole driveway with that in about 40 minutes, using NO fuel. Granted, I have a paved driveway now, but that wasn't always the case, and the squeegee still worked even when I had a gravel surface.

This is like what I used, though I believe I bought mine from our local NAPA store....

Libman 36in. Curved Floor Squeegee, Model# 954 | Northern Tool + Equipment

I use it to make piles on the side(s) of the driveway, and then (if conditions warrant) can hit it with the blower later.

dnw64 · Jan 31, 2018

irvingj said:
What you might find works for those "nuisance" 1-1/2/" snowfalls is what I do: use a good, commercial-grade garage floor squeegee. I can do my whole driveway with that in about 40 minutes, using NO fuel.

What I do is use the blower in High Range, near full speed. Kinda fun!

timbrehse · Feb 17, 2018

irvingj said:
What you might find works for those "nuisance" 1-1/2/" snowfalls is what I do: use a good, commercial-grade garage floor squeegee. I can do my whole driveway with that in about 40 minutes, using NO fuel. Granted, I have a paved driveway now, but that wasn't always the case, and the squeegee still worked even when I had a gravel surface.

This is like what I used, though I believe I bought mine from our local NAPA store....

Libman 36in. Curved Floor Squeegee, Model# 954 | Northern Tool + Equipment

I use it to make piles on the side(s) of the driveway, and then (if conditions warrant) can hit it with the blower later.

That's an interesting thought Irv. Got me to thinking of a fabing a 50" wide clamp-on (to blower) squeegee. Something sim. to forks that clamp onto a tractor bucket.