Neighbor Tractor Accident

[ovrszd]

I'm hallway between KC and Des Moines. I use I-35 a couple times a week. If I get on I-35 and head toward either city the closer I get the stupider the drivers are. Once you are within 30 miles of either city the "move to the right" courtesy disappears. By the time I get in and out of the city I totally understand "road rage". City drivers are idiots. Some of which have been discussed in this thread......

 

[Threepoint]

I had missed that section C expanded the definition for 9-21, you would appear to be correct.
Regarding section IC 9-21-5-7, it says that the slow vehicle "shall give right-of-way to the other vehicles by pulling off to the right of the right lane at the earliest reasonable opportunity and allowing the blocked vehicles to pass"
If one had a creative lawyer (and cooperative terrain) it could be argued that wasn't a place where you one could safely pull off to the right due to the width of your load, oncoming traffic, a shoulder that was too narrow, the dropoff from the paved shoulder to the gravel and/or a curve that obstructed the view of oncoming traffic making it dangerous (and as such, not reasonable) to pull off to the right.


Aaron Z

Yep, I agree. Wouldn't even take a lawyer in those situations, much less a creative one.

 

[Threepoint]

[snip]

It's also just recently become law in Indiana that on a highway with more than one lane in a direction, slower cars have to move out of the left lane and let faster traffic pass, and here's the kicker, no matter how fast they are going! So if the speed limit is 55 and you're in the left lane going 65 and some guy comes up behind you going 66, you have to, by law, pull to the right and let him pass at the first safe opportunity. Only exceptions are, as I recall, if you're going to be turning left soon, or inclimate weather. I love this law. Where's the heart shaped emoji? Cloud 9 will do.
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Same thing in Virginia, now. But in both Indiana and Virginia (and I bet in most other jurisdictions as well), it is illegal to exceed the posted speed limit even when passing! So consider the irony. If you're driving the speed limit in the left lane and another driver comes up behind you going faster, you are breaking the law if you don't move over so he can continue to break the law. :confused2:

 

[ovrszd]

Same thing in Virginia, now. But in both Indiana and Virginia (and I bet in most other jurisdictions as well), it is illegal to exceed the posted speed limit even when passing! So consider the irony. If you're driving the speed limit in the left lane and another driver comes up behind you going faster, you are breaking the law if you don't move over so he can continue to break the law. :confused2:

I may have to save this statement!!!! :thumbsup:

 

[oosik]

Hmm - so many differing laws - adds to the confusion. Here in WA you can only use the left lane, on a 4-lane highway, for passing. An awful lot of folks get stopped for just driving on & on & on in the left lane.

 

[ovrszd]

Hmm - so many differing laws - adds to the confusion. Here in WA you can only use the left lane, on a 4-lane highway, for passing. An awful lot of folks get stopped for just driving on & on & on in the left lane.

Good friend of mine recently totaled a vehicle. He was driving wayyyyyyy under the speed limit on an Interstate Hiway at night. Truck hit him in the rear end. Friend isn't talking. Hiway Patrol determined the truck was in the wrong. Truck driver says my friend was in the left lane. When the truck attempted to go by him using the right lane he swerved to the right into the path of the truck. I believe the trucker.......

 

[3Ts]

I guess I'm just used to coming up on farm equipment going slow on narrow highways. I'll agree lots of folks don't give them the room they need, or, for that matter, the rules they are allowed under our state laws. However, I think they're supposed to pull over first chance they get when they have more than three vehicles backed up behind them, and in mint season, they just won't pull over for anyone. And that makes the car guy angry, and brings out the worst in aggressive behavior.

I attended a tractor safety course here in Texas and they showed a number of accidents and described what happened. Some were because the tractor pulled over to let traffic go by. They pointed out that (here anyway) there is no requirement to pull over, AND you do not know the condition of the shoulder should you do so. There were several roll over accidents of $100k+ machines because the shoulder was soft and would not support the weight.

 

[MossRoad]

Same thing in Virginia, now. But in both Indiana and Virginia (and I bet in most other jurisdictions as well), it is illegal to exceed the posted speed limit even when passing! So consider the irony. If you're driving the speed limit in the left lane and another driver comes up behind you going faster, you are breaking the law if you don't move over so he can continue to break the law. :confused2:

Yep. But they make it clear that its not your (or my) place to play traffic cop and impede the flow of traffic. We have no idea why the person behind us is speeding, it may be an emergency, so pull over. Indiana State Police have encouraged everyone to move over and let the speeder by, then report them.... so they're kinda encouraging folks to use their cell phone while driving. :laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

I attended a tractor safety course here in Texas and they showed a number of accidents and described what happened. Some were because the tractor pulled over to let traffic go by. They pointed out that (here anyway) there is no requirement to pull over, AND you do not know the condition of the shoulder should you do so. There were several roll over accidents of $100k+ machines because the shoulder was soft and would not support the weight.

The law here says to pull over when its safe to pull over. However, lots of folks don't realize its not safe for the large machine to go onto the shoulder, and they get impatient.

 

[goeduck]

The law here says to pull over when its safe to pull over. However, lots of folks don't realize its not safe for the large machine to go onto the shoulder, and they get impatient.

Right. It used to be much of the driving public spent time in their youth on a farm and understood such things. Nowadays the majority of driving public have no such idea and want to get wherever the are going in as little time as possible. They should stay on the freeways and big cities in my opinion.

 

[ovrszd]

Here's some interesting data. I was very surprised by this. What do you guys think? Are you average???

Average Annual Miles per Driver by Age Group​

Age	Male	Female	Total
16-19	8,206	6,873	7,624
20-34	17,976	12,004	15,098
35-54	18,858	11,464	15,291
55-64	15,859	7,780	11,972
65+	10,304	4,785	7,646
Average	16,550	10,142	13,476

 

[oosik]

Well - I guess I'm right on the average. I'm certainly 65+ and I average around 5000 miles on each of my two vehicles. Hold it though - I have a third vehicle - 2017 BMW R1200GSA - I put 4300 miles on that bike this year. So I'm "over average or better than average" - ha,ha,ha.

 

[ovrszd]

Well - I guess I'm right on the average. I'm certainly 65+ and I average around 5000 miles on each of my two vehicles. Hold it though - I have a third vehicle - 2017 BMW R1200GSA - I put 4300 miles on that bike this year. So I'm "over average or better than average" - ha,ha,ha.

I thought the numbers would be higher. I'm 66, 12K miles a year. Wife is 61, 24K miles a year.

 

[LouNY]

Well I guess I'm in trouble again, in the over 65 range;
Truck is a 15 and has 46,000 on it so about 20,000a year on it.
Plow truck gets about 4-5000 a year.
Then my HD ulta limited but the last couple of years it's only been getting 5-6000 miles a year, used to be over 12,000 yr.

 

[Geosankie]

MARGARETVILLE, N.Y. (WBNG) -- The Delaware County Sheriff's Office is investigating an tractor accident that claimed the life of a Town of Middletown board member.

According to deputies, it happened before 8 a.m. Friday on Bill Stahl Road in Margaretville.

The sheriff's office says 42-year-old ------------- of Arkville was on a disabled farm tractor that was being towed by a landowner along a narrow, snow-covered driveway when a wheel of the tractor dropped off the driveway next to a steep embankment and overturned. Officials say ------ was fatally injured.

The tractor was not running at the time, according to deputies. Authorities say it was not equipped with tire chains or a rollover protection structure (R.O.P.S.).

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Same thing in Virginia, now. But in both Indiana and Virginia (and I bet in most other jurisdictions as well), it is illegal to exceed the posted speed limit even when passing! So consider the irony. If you're driving the speed limit in the left lane and another driver comes up behind you going faster, you are breaking the law if you don't move over so he can continue to break the law. :confused2:

Just drove up to Boston and back... Good Lord, I thought I was gonna lose my mind. So many drivers camped out in the left lane, flash the lights and nothing. As to speeding, I do mostly 5 to 10 mph more than posted... I was the slow poke... Forget about driving in downtown Boston, not for the faint of heart...

 

[Industrial Toys]

Urban driving doesn't bother me. You expect the worst.

But out here, there is no excuse for the brain dead stupidity. You only see six cars on the paved two-lane as far as the eye can see, and from afar you'd think they were all chained together!

And on a snow covered road, that doesn't change. Sometimes it's just worse as maybe the first person is driving slower.

Not two thinking brain cells in the lot of them!