Wal-Mart meat!

[LD1]

I find that a hand full of wood chips will impart enough flavor in any meat to overcome the total lack of salt (which BTW is becoming more and more of a thing that will not hurt most people).

Yep. Cherry and apple are the favorites here

 

[SirReal63]

Yep. Cherry and apple are the favorites here

Oak and pecan here because I have a lifetime supply of it.

 

[AGRIMAN]

If you really love the taste of beef (and other red meats)...aging is everything...!

Call me a Bern's steak house fan...
Bern's Steak House - Notes About Our Steaks

Bern's Steak House - Our Steaks

I agree. If you have never tried a dry aged steak..... you should. I need get some aging now. I have four guys that I go to church with that have never had one. I have been promising to cook them the best steak they have ever had.

 

[Firemanbuck82]

Alder chips are the preferred smoke flavor in this house, followed by apple. Nothing better for salmon than alder smoke on the grill.

I've never set foot in Wally world and hope to never in my lifetime. The wife loves it for some things, so I'll drop her off at the door and go a few blocks to TSC and while away the time until she sends me a text. Our beef is locally sourced through a friend and usually has had a name. If we run out, Costco is the next best.

MANY years ago I worked at a ski resort in the winter and packed mules in the summer. Budgets were tight and I lived on a lot of beans and quesadillas. I did discover that the Safeway would mark their meat down mid-week when there were fewer tourists. I'd buy a 2 pack of filet mignon steaks on Wednesday for like $3. Yeah, they were a bit brown in the package but they tasted great after a few minutes on my grill and washed down with a $5 bottle of red wine. Oh to be young again (sips on his anjeo tequila).

 

[LD1]

I haven't been in a Walmart for a long time, because my wife does the shopping.

But I just don't understand some people's deep seeded hatred toward them as a company.

They stock the exact same stuff that you can go elsewhere and pay more for? So are the fools the ones that shop at Walmart? Or the ones that go elsewhere and pay more?

 

[Bird]

But I just don't understand some people's deep seeded hatred toward them as a company.

I think it's called jealousy.:laughing: Walmart is just too successful.

 

[LD1]

I think it's called jealousy.:laughing: Walmart is just too successful.

I'm not jealous, I'm happy. Their success afford them alot buying power. End result is some of that power let's them sell me things cheaper than I can get anywhere else.

I just don't get some people's mindset? Sure, they sell alot of "made in China" stuff. What store doesn't? I don't get hung up on that.

You honestly think the Colgate toothpaste, old spice deodorant, soaps and shampoos, are somehow different because I paid less getting them at Walmart?

Or the mobile and she'll oil and my oil filters I buy there are somehow different than getting the same stuff at Napa or AutoZone?

Or the Pampers diapers (when my kids were that age) are different?

I could go on, but it pointless to try to convince some. And the others....well you already know what I'm saying.

The reference to going to TSC while the wife shops.....sure I like TSC and all. But how is it any better than Walmart? TSC is like a harbor freight for tractors. Just about everything inside the store is made in China. But the worse part, if I buy their cheap China tools they ain't guaranteed like the Pittsburgh from HF

 

[jack707]

I think it's called jealousy.:laughing: Walmart is just too successful.

They step on the little guys and put them out of business and their anti union.

 

[LD1]

They step on the little guys and put them out of business and their anti union.

It's called free market.

No one is "stepping" on anyone. It's very beneficial to the consumer, to have the competition, as it keeps prices in check.

Unless the little guy can offer me something that big chain cannot.....why pay more? Just because it's the.little guy? Non-sense.

The market has evolved. Sometimes I shop the little local store that's 2 miles away. Not nearly the selection, and cost more. Bit if I need a quick loaf of bread or gallon of milk, it's worth paying for the convince.

If I need full on $300 worth of groceries, toiletries, school supplies, case of beer, some oil and filters, a new computer keyboard, bicycle for the kids, some shot shells for rabbit hunting, and a few hanging baskets for the grand parents.....name me one other store I can get that all in one trip?

Walmart is like a auto store, sporting goods store, gun store, grocery store, electronic store, etc etc all rolled into one. Just the way it is, and will continue to be. I personally like it alot better than having to make half a dozen stops to get the exact same stuff. So not only am I saving money, I'm saving time.

Who cares if they are anti union. I wouldn't call myself anti union....but I certainly wouldn't call myself pro-union either.

Unions are becoming a worthless expense. All they do is protect the lazy worthless workers and make it difficult for companies to terminate them and get someone who actually cares. Show up, do your job, and you would be much better off without a union.

I know many companies, that through mergers, buy-outs, etc have some union and some non union locations. Guess which ones get paid better and have better retirement/benefits? And guess which ones are the first to get shut down come crunch time?

Sorry jack, just the world we live in. If you want mom and pop shops, no national chains of anything, and union power, Perhaps you were born 50-60 years too late? But I think we are a lot better off now than we were 50 -60years ago.

 

[jack707]

It's called free market.

No one is "stepping" on anyone. It's very beneficial to the consumer, to have the competition, as it keeps prices in check.

Unless the little guy can offer me something that big chain cannot.....why pay more? Just because it's the.little guy? Non-sense.

The market has evolved. Sometimes I shop the little local store that's 2 miles away. Not nearly the selection, and cost more. Bit if I need a quick loaf of bread or gallon of milk, it's worth paying for the convince.

If I need full on $300 worth of groceries, toiletries, school supplies, case of beer, some oil and filters, a new computer keyboard, bicycle for the kids, some shot shells for rabbit hunting, and a few hanging baskets for the grand parents.....name me one other store I can get that all in one trip?

Walmart is like a auto store, sporting goods store, gun store, grocery store, electronic store, etc etc all rolled into one. Just the way it is, and will continue to be. I personally like it alot better than having to make half a dozen stops to get the exact same stuff. So not only am I saving money, I'm saving time.

Who cares if they are anti union. I wouldn't call myself anti union....but I certainly wouldn't call myself pro-union either.

Unions are becoming a worthless expense. All they do is protect the lazy worthless workers and make it difficult for companies to terminate them and get someone who actually cares. Show up, do your job, and you would be much better off without a union.

I know many companies, that through mergers, buy-outs, etc have some union and some non union locations. Guess which ones get paid better and have better retirement/benefits? And guess which ones are the first to get shut down come crunch time?

Sorry jack, just the world we live in. If you want mom and pop shops, no national chains of anything, and union power, Perhaps you were born 50-60 years too late? But I think we are a lot better off now than we were 50 -60years ago.

I had a feeling when I said their anti union some Yahoo would respond about union are past. There prime but that how I make a living for about 15years. Now the International is to greedy today.

 

[LD1]

And if Walmart we're at union.....how would that help you make a living?

If you are a member of a local union, as a pipe fitter, welder, millwright, electrician, etc.....that's one thing.

Having a union at your fixed place of employment because of some false pretenses that they are there to protect you against the evil company.....totally different.

I have worked at factory's that have union, and ones that do not. Non-union is much better. For starters I don't have to give up $50/month in dues that does absolutely nothing for me. It pays better and better benefits. And overall the whole atmosphere is much more pleasant. I know if I screw up I'll be diciplined. If I do good ill be rewarded.

In the union places, everyone gets paid the same if you hold the same job title. You don't make more if you Excell at your job and are better than the guy next to you. Likewise you don't make less if you are a lazy worthless ignorant worker either. So there is no incentive to give a *****. Nothing to strive for, no reason to better ones self. And heaven forbid some "old timer" saw you talking to management about anything other than work. Because management is the devil out to get everyone.

Years ago unions (in the workplace setting) were respected and served a purpose. And if a worker was a worthless lazy piece of trash that made the union look bad, the company didn't have to worry about how to terminate a union employee. Because the union had the balls to do it themselves. Not the case anymore.

IMO, unions have no business in the workplace. And especially with govt stuff like teachers, police, etc.

Yes they still have a purpose as I mentioned earlier, where people work out of a union hall and travel, like Ironworkers, pipe fitter, millwrights, electricians, etc.

So it's not a simple black and white pro-union vs anti-union IMO. Thus my statement that I am not really for or against unions. Because it all depends on just what union we are talking about.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Union Carpenter, here... and you are right, some things are good... some are bad. Just like everything else in the world. And, for the record, we do not shop at Wallyworld. Never have, never will. I spend my money where I choose.

 

[jack707]

You people are forgetting union had workers rights put in place for you non union workers so remember that . And how are unions hurting you people? Unions brought good pay other wise owners of company's would pay you crap! And no breaks I just lunch in a 12 or 14 he. Day and count the time you left your work station for water or bathroom . I agree workers should not be protected in govt.

 

[LD1]

You people are forgetting union had workers rights put in place for you non union workers so remember that . And how are unions hurting you people? Unions brought good pay other wise owners of company's would pay you crap! And no breaks I just lunch in a 12 or 14 he. Day and count the time you left your work station for water or bathroom . I agree workers should not be protected in govt.

Sounds just like all the old pro-union workers I have been around. Patting yourselves on the back like we should be so great ful for all you did for us blah blah blah. And how poorly we would be paid and how horrible out eployers would be if it weren't for you.

Go preach that BS to some other youngster cause I ain't buying.

I have paid my dues to a union for many years at.a few different places. What did it get me? First union got me laid off. Because rather than the company getting to keep the workers that we're skilled and productive in the area that was needed, the selection process for where the ax fell was simple...seniority. so some skill-less lazy unproductive worker got to keep his job simply because he started before me and I was on the street.
This same.place is the place my father retired from. And I have many friends that still work at this factory. Last contract...company got everything they wanted. Union rolled over. No double time on Sundays or holidays, no notice required to force OT (used to be 2 days), no more 5 week vacation to 20yr employees and 6 week vacation to 30 year emps. Limit 4 now. Can now force.both Saturday AND Sunday where as before Sunday was always optional, pay freeze for 2 years, etc. Union rolled because company threatened closure.

Second time around, union got the plant closed. Company had 18-20 locations in the states. 4 union rest non. Lost a big contract and decision made to close 4 plants. Guess which 4.

And at both those jobs, it was stressful. Too much us (union) vs them (company) mentality.

So yeah, unions once had there place in a factory setting. But that time has passed. If you work at a fixed place, like a factory, retail (Walmart) restaurant, etc. A union is worthless.

Skilled trade working out of a hall.....different story.

 

[jack707]

Sounds just like all the old pro-union workers I have been around. Patting yourselves on the back like we should be so great ful for all you did for us blah blah blah. And how poorly we would be paid and how horrible out eployers would be if it weren't for you.

Go preach that BS to some other youngster cause I ain't buying.

I have paid my dues to a union for many years at.a few different places. What did it get me? First union got me laid off. Because rather than the company getting to keep the workers that we're skilled and productive in the area that was needed, the selection process for where the ax fell was simple...seniority. so some skill-less lazy unproductive worker got to keep his job simply because he started before me and I was on the street.
This same.place is the place my father retired from. And I have many friends that still work at this factory. Last contract...company got everything they wanted. Union rolled over. No double time on Sundays or holidays, no notice required to force OT (used to be 2 days), no more 5 week vacation to 20yr employees and 6 week vacation to 30 year emps. Limit 4 now. Can now force.both Saturday AND Sunday where as before Sunday was always optional, pay freeze for 2 years, etc. Union rolled because company threatened closure.

Second time around, union got the plant closed. Company had 18-20 locations in the states. 4 union rest non. Lost a big contract and decision made to close 4 plants. Guess which 4.

And at both those jobs, it was stressful. Too much us (union) vs them (company) mentality.

So yeah, unions once had there place in a factory setting. But that time has passed. If you work at a fixed place, like a factory, retail (Walmart) restaurant, etc. A union is worthless.

Skilled trade working out of a hall.....different story.

Ok man what ever you say you delusion old man

 

[LD1]

Not a delusion.

Keep drinking your union koolaide thinking they are doing so much for you.

If you work out of a hall....they might be
If you work at a factory type or similar setting that has a local union established, the only benefit you get is job protection if you are a lazy worker.

What type of union do you belong to? (Not a rhetorical question)

I never did like paying my union dues just so they could give million to a candidate I won't support

 

[jack707]

Let it go you lost two union jobs get over it!. It will just make you a bitter person. I'm in field construction it I is a lot different then being in a shop. I have been a union Boilermaker sincere 2002 and lived a very good life all my trucks,tractor and car are paid off.

 

[jack707]

 

[LD1]

I'm not bitter. Nothing to let go.

It's clear we are talking about two different union types.

In your field of work, and similar skilled trades (millwright, electrician, plumber, pipe fitter, etc) I understand the benefit of a union In my line of work, I deal with union contractors of many professions.

It's totally different in a "shop" setting and having a union.

If you were to work in a union factory "shop" setting for more than a few months I thin you would understand fully what I am talking about.

A "shop" union is much closer in similarity to the likes fo teachers, police, autoworkers, etc unions. And nothing at all like working out of a hall like yourself.

And all this talk about unions and wages....it all comes full circle.

That's one economic principal that I never could wrap my head around. INFLATION.

We all want raises. Great. More money. Then all our employers raise the cost of the products we make to cover costs (inflation). Then we want another raise (cost of living increase), the companies raise prices again.

It's a never ending cycle and are we every really gaining anything?

Average car prices are....say....25000 today. Think about when an average car was 1/10th of that. Yep...average wages were also 1/10th. Same for just about everything.

Numbers and zeros and dollar amounts are all relative.

You know, with stock prices, usually once they get so high they split 2:1 or something. Maybe we should do the same thing with money. Let's move the decimal place one digit. A $20/hr job becomes a $2/hr job. A $200,000 home is now $20,000. A $25,000 car becomes becomes $2,500 etc etc.

Hey, at least it would make the penny relevant again and we can stop debating weather or not it should be done away with

 

[jack707]

I'm not bitter. Nothing to let go.

It's clear we are talking about two different union types.

In your field of work, and similar skilled trades (millwright, electrician, plumber, pipe fitter, etc) I understand the benefit of a union In my line of work, I deal with union contractors of many professions.

It's totally different in a "shop" setting and having a union.

If you were to work in a union factory "shop" setting for more than a few months I thin you would understand fully what I am talking about.

A "shop" union is much closer in similarity to the likes fo teachers, police, autoworkers, etc unions. And nothing at all like working out of a hall like yourself.

And all this talk about unions and wages....it all comes full circle.

That's one economic principal that I never could wrap my head around. INFLATION.

We all want raises. Great. More money. Then all our employers raise the cost of the products we make to cover costs (inflation). Then we want another raise (cost of living increase), the companies raise prices again.

It's a never ending cycle and are we every really gaining anything?

Average car prices are....say....25000 today. Think about when an average car was 1/10th of that. Yep...average wages were also 1/10th. Same for just about everything.

Numbers and zeros and dollar amounts are all relative.

You know, with stock prices, usually once they get so high they split 2:1 or something. Maybe we should do the same thing with money. Let's move the decimal place one digit. A $20/hr job becomes a $2/hr job. A $200,000 home is now $20,000. A $25,000 car becomes becomes $2,500 etc etc.

Hey, at least it would make the penny relevant again and we can stop debating weather or not it should be done away with

I hear ya! Every time we get a raise in pay out dues go up a dollar!!!!!. The man no one likes is Newton Jones he is stealing money from locals in dues and field dues the man is a worm he took over for daddy and even the Fed's were investigation him and the Intl.