I've been had! Well,........ manipulated!

[RSKY]

There is a difference between spoiling grandkids and ruining them. We spoil ours I know BUT they actually ask for very little. There are no fits in stores wanting a toy. They do ask to come and stay with us for a night or so. And they ask to go to a particular place to eat. That is all they ask for. The grand wanting to go to the beach knows that we always go on a vacation with them and was putting in her two cents as to where we will go. Her parents were talking about a trip out west to Wyoming for some reason and that's not really where she wants to go.

RSKY

 

[part-time-Farmer-NC]

If spoiling them means buying a few things for them to enjoy. To spend ample opportunity to mentor their lives and instill my values. As well as teach them about right wrong, moral and ethical things in life. And of course who GOD is and how we fit into his kingdom, salvation and folling his ways.

Guilty as charged.

My kids/GK have always known GP/GM are not an ATM if they want something they have to arrange a plan with us to work it out on the farm, around the house. There is never nothing to do on a farm so we have ample opportunity for them to earn some moola.

I see nothing wrong with getting a calcium supplement (ice cream) once/twice a week. To keep the boned strong of course.

 

[masseyrider]

You don't have to justify your over compensation with the GKs to try and make up for the lack of attention to your kids in the day.
You were busy making a living.
Just be happy with the way things are.
You have the resources to spoil them and a conscience never forgets.

 

[MossRoad]

I got my daughters certified to SCUBA when they were 17 and 13. We dove in the Keys, up and down the east coast, in Mexico, and the Caymans. When the oldest was a senior in high school a friend invited her to go out on Kentucky Lake in their family's boat and I realized neither child had been on the huge lake twenty miles from our home. Then for some reason while they thought nothing of going out ten miles from land and diving 60-80 feet under water in the ocean they were always scared of the fresh water lake.

The Great Lakes!

No sharks and salt-free.

 

[MossRoad]

Having spent more time sailing from both than most people you know, lakes are gross. Give me salt water and sand, over fresh water and mud or slimy rocks, ten times out of ten.

You need to get inland more...


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[MossRoad]

Canada geese love lake beaches. So I try to avoid them

I rarely see geese on Lake Michigan beaches.... I think the sand is too hot!

 

[WinterDeere]

You need to get inland more...


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Oh, get out into the water, and the lakes are great. But their shores tend to be totally gross, by comparison to a real beach, at least in this part of the country.

Give me sand crabs and seaguls over Canada goose crap and stinky mud. Of course, I'm willing to accept that things can be very different across this great country of ours, I can only speak from local experience.

 

[MossRoad]

Oh, get out into the water, and the lakes are great. But their shores tend to be totally gross, by comparison to a real beach, at least in this part of the country.

Give me sand crabs and seaguls over Canada goose crap and stinky mud. Of course, I'm willing to accept that things can be very different across this great country of ours, I can only speak from local experience.

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Come to the sunset coast of Lake Michigan.

 

[deezler]

My fam is heading up to Platte river (Michigan) in a couple weeks for our annual end-of-summer camping trip. It sucks there, no one else should consider going. It's absolutely awful up there, on a slimy inland lake.

 

[MossRoad]

My fam is heading up to Platte river (Michigan) in a couple weeks for our annual end-of-summer camping trip. It sucks there, no one else should consider going. It's absolutely awful up there, on a slimy inland lake.

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Horrible!

 

[WinterDeere]

My fam is heading up to Platte river (Michigan) in a couple weeks for our annual end-of-summer camping trip. It sucks there, no one else should consider going. It's absolutely awful up there, on a slimy inland lake.

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Wow. Sand! Looks like salt water.

Lakes in PA look nothing like that. Fertile soil and weather that loves to make everything grow, ours look like this:

It's nature, it's beautiful, but I don't want to wade into it.

 

[Drstrangeglove]

I wish I had grandkids to take to the beach.

I remember 30 years ago when I stayed at the Banff Springs hotel on my honeymoon. The dude at the desk asked if I would like to leave the room on my Amex card. I thought hard for while wondering what the heck a Amex card was. Then it hit me, he was talking about dad's credit card. I said " yes, I put it all on my card." That was the best trip I ever had.

My grandkids, if I ever have them, can do that to me.

 

[MossRoad]

Wow. Sand! Looks like salt water.

Lakes in PA look nothing like that. Fertile soil and weather that loves to make everything grow, ours look like this:

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It's nature, it's beautiful, but I don't want to wade into it.

We had a lake in our back yard when I was a kid. Magical place. Always had a rowboat, mask, snorkel, fins, fishing tackle, binoculars. A wonderful place to grow up, swim, chase fish, turtles, muskrats underwater. Swim through and under the weeds and see the crawdads and insect larvae. Watch the birds. The city had a nice sandy beach on the other end of the lake. My siblings and I all had jobs as lifeguards there in the summers.

 

[nyone]

VRBO has been good for the 2x I have used them. Once for a 2br cottage by the beach in NJ and one for a 2br place in the lakes region of NH. Both under $1k for 3-4 nights. For a beach vacation you may need to book a whole week if it's in season. We booked 1 week off season. The beaches where nearly empty. I'm talking 12 people as far as you could see in both directions. It was still hot and good weather. No lines, no crowds and I could park in the closest parking spot to the beach. 3 days at the beach was enough for me. I definitely dont want to do a week in august.

 

[Spanky100]

Twice this week and once last week I've driven 40 minutes to pick up my 16-year old granddaughter and then driven 30 minutes to take her to golf lessons. (Local celebrity golfer holding classes). Then I wait around for a couple hours to take her home. Lunch included wherever she wants to eat. During our talks in the drive it has been established that: 1. she hasn't been to a beach in a couple years, 2. she sure would like to go to a beach, 3. younger sister (recently 10th birthday) has only been to a beach once since she was a baby, 4. I would be a fantastic granddaddy if I somehow planned, organized, and paid for a beach vacation for her, her sister, and the entire family including her parents, aunt, uncle, and three cousins. So counting myself and my wife there would be eleven of us.

Anybody else have granddaughters? Do they manipulate you so easily? I mean, dang it, I know I should be harder to control. But since she was born with these big brown eyes and the longest eye lashes she has managed to do this. And she has taught her younger sister and cousin the drill. Want something from granddaddy, just stare at him, blink your eyes, smile, and say please.

Well the stock market is doing well, and I might as well spend it as to hoard it. Rather see them happy now as getting the cash when I die. I'm thinking these thoughts as I search VRBO for a house big enough for eleven on a beach within a one day drive from Western Kentucky.

A manipulated RSKY

Manipulated (RSKY)

Just put this wording on your computer screensaver so you will learn to just accept it. Post the reality message in a prominent place.


Grandparents
So easy to operate even a child can do it

 

[masseyrider]

Grandparents
So easy to operate even a child can do it

Just don't tell them that. They think it's all aboot love.

 

[Spanky100]

Just don't tell them that. They think it's all aboot love.

massyrider

I have 4 Grandkids with busy parents. They know without telling them how to work the Grandparents. I am the most challenging of the 4 Grandparents (the others are pushovers) but they keep working at me. I think they enjoy the challenge.

Sometimes I win and they are working in the field with me. I have wide brim sun hats, gloves, ear muffs, and safety glasses for the older ones. Sometimes they are doing real work that is not offered at their home. They know when Papa wins.

Sadly I do not have a hayfield like my Grandfather; who I am sure enjoyed driving the tractor with the square bailer and hay wagon in tow as the Grandchildren stacked the hay bales on the wagon. At least we had a farm pond to cool off in later.

 

[Dftodd]

My fam is heading up to Platte river (Michigan) in a couple weeks for our annual end-of-summer camping trip. It sucks there, no one else should consider going. It's absolutely awful up there, on a slimy inland lake.

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My wife and I say that about food. It's horrible, it sucks, I'll eat it and take one for the team so it doesn't go to waste

 

[masseyrider]

massyrider

I have 4 Grandkids with busy parents. They know without telling them how to work the Grandparents. I am the most challenging of the 4 Grandparents (the others are pushovers) but they keep working at me. I think they enjoy the challenge.

Sometimes I win and they are working in the field with me. I have wide brim sun hats, gloves, ear muffs, and safety glasses for the older ones. Sometimes they are doing real work that is not offered at their home. They know when Papa wins.

Sadly I do not have a hayfield like my Grandfather; who I am sure enjoyed driving the tractor with the square bailer and hay wagon in tow as the Grandchildren stacked the hay bales on the wagon. At least we had a farm pond to cool off in later.

 

[deezler]

Wow. Sand! Looks like salt water.

Lakes in PA look nothing like that. Fertile soil and weather that loves to make everything grow, ours look like this:

It's nature, it's beautiful, but I don't want to wade into it.

I grew up swimming in ponds and lakes of PA (poconos). Definitely need a rinse off afterwards, haha.