wi fi in shop

[aczlan]

Thanks Aaron. Are these devices line of sight?

Yes, anything wireless is going to be line of sight. Mine goes through the edges of two trees, but we have never had an issue with it.
Higher frequency devices (ie: 5ghz vs 2.4ghz) are more easily blocked by leaves (especially wet leaves) but can deliver faster speeds.

Aaron Z

 

[bigdeano]

I have a 1000' link to another house. 800' is through a heavy stand of 20 year old fir trees. I used a pair of 900mhz UbiQuiTi NanoStation LOCOM9's. Haven't had any problems in the 3 years I've had them.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Metal buildings are notorious signal killers. People who put metal roofs on their house are often disapointed with lost cell signal.

you could do a simple wire pull with a potato plow (not dig a trench). I have run a lot of wire that way. Trench is better, no doubt, but a simple potato plow can get you a wire whever you want.

As noted, some systems are line of sight, others are omni directional and suffer less with obstructions. YMMV. Cell phones can get expensive quick (we use 500 gig of data a month, our cell phones allow for only 10.

 

[bigdeano]

but a simple potato plow can get you a wire whever you want.

Unless you hit roots or rocks. That's why I used a radio link.

 

[Todd727]

Yes, you will need two. The EnStations are a focused beam and results in a very fast connection. We have gigabit fiber to the house and with the Enstation, I'm getting 56Mbps down and 71 up. I put the Enstation on the outside, then ran Ethernet to the interior and to my router. Those numbers are from the WiFi in the shop. Essentially, I'm getting the full speed possible on WiFi.

 

[jcummins]

Yes, you will need two. The EnStations are a focused beam and results in a very fast connection. We have gigabit fiber to the house and with the Enstation, I'm getting 56Mbps down and 71 up. I put the Enstation on the outside, then ran Ethernet to the interior and to my router. Those numbers are from the WiFi in the shop. Essentially, I'm getting the full speed possible on WiFi.

Dang..........that's fast.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Got power to shop? If so use Ethernet over power adapter Amazon.com: TRENDnet Power Line 12 AV2 Adapter Starter Kit, 2 Adapters Included with Gigabit Port, Plug and Play, MIMO, Beamforming (TPL-42E2K): Computers & Accessories

Now connect wireless acess point.

In running IP camera out of my barn on these, using an extension cord for power.

 

[weedsportpete]

Got power to shop? If so use Ethernet over power adapter Amazon.com: TRENDnet Power Line 12 AV2 Adapter Starter Kit, 2 Adapters Included with Gigabit Port, Plug and Play, MIMO, Beamforming (TPL-42E2K): Computers & Accessories

Now connect wireless acess point.

In running IP camera out of my barn on these, using an extension cord for power.

We do the same thing; not as high powered as that, but still Ethernet over power. One adapter plugs into an outlet in the office, and it takes a network cable from the router/modem. The other adapter plugs into an outlet in the barn and an Ethernet network cable runs from that adapter to an old wireless router (that I used to have in the house, but was discarded after the cable company set us up with a new router/modem). As long as there is no transformer between the two adapters, you are good to go.

We setup a different network (SSID) name in the barn, on that wireless router, than the one in the house, so that we could hand out the password to our barn guests to use that wifi but not give them access to our home network. Setting that up was a hassle. Not sure I could do it again.

Occasionally when there is a power outage or the internet is temporarily lost to the house, when it comes back up, the wireless in the barn has to be reset (power off both adapter plug and router). The wifi is connected but there is no internet on it. Still, its great to have it in the barn because my wife is down there most of the day and is on FBook constantly on her cell. Without the wifi we'd be using up our minutes.

 

[Argonne]

My router in the house has 2 antenna ports (space diversity). On one I have an omni antenna for the house, and on the other I have connected a parabolic up in the attic pointing at the out buildings. As a result, I get enough signal through the window in the shop to get coverage without doing anything fancy out there.

If you do connect an external antenna, always pay close attention of your cable and connector losses. Any signal strength you gain with a high gain or directional antenna, you can lose with transmission line losses.

 

[lostcreekranch]

Got power to shop? If so use Ethernet over power adapter Amazon.com: TRENDnet Power Line 12 AV2 Adapter Starter Kit, 2 Adapters Included with Gigabit Port, Plug and Play, MIMO, Beamforming (TPL-42E2K): Computers & Accessories

Now connect wireless acess point.

In running IP camera out of my barn on these, using an extension cord for power.

I think this is probably my best solution since I have lots of trees and another building between our house and the workshop. The line of site equipment would be pretty iffy IMHO, for our place.

 

[newbury]

Got power to shop? If so use Ethernet over power adapter Amazon.com: TRENDnet Power Line 12 AV2 Adapter Starter Kit, 2 Adapters Included with Gigabit Port, Plug and Play, MIMO, Beamforming (TPL-42E2K): Computers & Accessories

Now connect wireless acess point.

In running IP camera out of my barn on these, using an extension cord for power.

Just be aware that if your shop/barn runs off a separate transformer (as mine does) the powerline adapter does not span transformers.

 

[hawkeye08]

sometimes the trees prohibit wifi if you mount the equipment higher, but work great at eye level (often trees are trimmed so lower branches are gone).

 

[k0ua]

The only reason to run cable or fiber would be to get some seat time digging a trench with a tractor. Wireless is the way to go if a trench or conduit doesn't already exist. If you factor in the time it would take to dig a 300' trench, the cost of conduit and cable or the cost of direct burial cable, etc.... you could get the job done for a hundred bucks wirelessly in much shorter time.

Listen to this guy, he know of what he speaks. Or you could listen to me as a former applications engineer for a telephone/data company for over 13 years and a telephone technician for over 21 years before that... either way you are going to get the same message. I engineered hundreds of wired and wireless solutions for business.

 

[KennyG]

Just be aware that if your shop/barn runs off a separate transformer (as mine does) the powerline adapter does not span transformers.

If you have 220 to the outbuilding and use the powerline solution, does it work? Do you have the signal available only on one side of the remote service?

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Works for me

 

[M E Cook]

I was in the same situation and used an Engenuis wireless access point on a pole on the roof of the shop:

Amazon.com: EnGenius 11n 2.4GHz Wireless Ethernet Bridge/Access Point (ENH22): ENGENIUS: Computers & Accessories

I bought this could not get it to work called their help line no help there just sent it back today going to have to try another way !!!!! ideaas ????

 

[Todd727]

Interesting that they couldn't help you. What was the problem? Were you getting a signal but having configuration issues?

 

[ustmd]

I bought this could not get it to work called their help line no help there just sent it back today going to have to try another way !!!!! ideaas ????

What was the problem? The initial set up can be confusing. You need to first configured the unit with a fixed IP address using a computer.

 

[k0ua]

What was the problem? The initial set up can be confusing. You need to first configured the unit with a fixed IP address using a computer.

And that fixed IP address needs to be in his subnet. And if he has any questions about what we both just said, then we will know what the problem was..

 

[M E Cook]

And that fixed IP address needs to be in his subnet. And if he has any questions about what we both just said, then we will know what the problem was..

I had a friend who is computer savy try to help no luck so Ive ordered a bridge setup that uses 2 units and ties into my modem with ether cable and mounts on outside of house has real good reviews and is supposed to be plug and play comes from factory programed will post results friday when it gets here !!!!