Skidding Winches

/ Skidding Winches #41  
What I seem to understand now:

Chain drive reduction to winch drum for pulling. No reverse gear, but the cable is controlled and released by a clutch and brake system on the drum. The winch pulls the load to the tractor, then the load is chained to the winch frame to be towed away, not towed by winch cable and brake.

Correct?

Bruce

Brake

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Clutch

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Chain drive
 
/ Skidding Winches #43  
Thanks, the photos help a lot.

Before now it has been a magic orange box with a constant running pto in and a cable coming out, going in, and stopping. Being familiar with conventional winches, I had trouble figuring out what was going on inside, as it didn't act the same way.

Bruce
 
/ Skidding Winches #44  
They are very simple constructions, many people has more normal winches in mind and thinks to advanced :)
And many don't get how fast they pull, at 540 RPM its almost frightening fast.
 
/ Skidding Winches #45  
Best part is, you don't need to run them at 540, so you can adjust the speed to your liking, with the throttle...

I winched out several walnut tree's with mine today, and if you know walnut tree's, they come out HARD, as they have a long tap root...

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Because of the short pull, I double lined it...

BTW, I can skid logs with the winch body itself and/or the winch cable...with a bigger tractor, you can skid a pretty good sized turn...

SR
 
/ Skidding Winches #46  
They are very simple constructions, many people has more normal winches in mind and thinks to advanced :)
And many don't get how fast they pull, at 540 RPM its almost frightening fast.

PTO speed, (540 RPM) is very fast indeed. One really has to pay close attention to what is going on or trouble can arise faster than lightening.

Here is a guide to various brands and their tech facts/specs, with lots of pictures.
BTW, the Igland model 4001 I have is designed to run on 35-70HP tractors.

http://www.fs.fed.us/t-d/programs/forest_mgmt/saleprep/smallwood/Winches.pdf
 
/ Skidding Winches #48  
I never said the list is complete; it's one of a thousand winch lists to be plucked off the net. It just exemplifies various configurations of working parts, etc. If you have a better/more complete one, bring it.:)
 
/ Skidding Winches #49  
The list is only 12 years old. Lol

Got the scabbards mounted today. There's 1/4" UHMW PE liners in them which should last a while.

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/ Skidding Winches #53  
I like that. A couple close ups would be appreciated.

I like that also. Maybe Mr Timber could come and build a couple of those on MY skidding winch and I will take lots of photos and post a complete "how to" peice. :thumbsup:

I have serious chainsaw carrier envy......
 
/ Skidding Winches #54  
I also gotta say you did a nice job Jim.

When are you going to start your 100 cord aspen harvest you mentioned a while back. That is a chunck of work. Maybe you can tell us about it. Is it part of a management plan registered with the state? Do you have time constraints ? Is it a winter cut to promote root sprout regen ?? Clear cut, thin an aspen stand, thin a mixed stand? Tree length or 100" sticks? Pulp, chip wood ......
What ever you can tell will be interesting.

gg
 
/ Skidding Winches #56  
I needed some 2x4's, so I headed to my woodlot and skidded out two 24" wind damaged white pines,

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Then off to the mill I go, to turn them into construction lumber!

SR
 
/ Skidding Winches #58  
Gordon, do you know if any of the Farmi winches are QH/i-Match compatible?

I don't believe any of the winches (at least Farmi's) are QH compatible. I found with my QH and JL501T that the top link is too high to use. After seeing how the winch works I believe I know why this is. Instead of having the top link arm and lower arms parallel, which lifts an implement straight up, the arms are not parallel. Non-parallel arms will kick the bottom of the winch outward when lifting, this creates a "shelf" and helps support the butt of the logs being hauled. It is quite ingenious and works very well (at least on my tractor).

Blane
(also from NW Oregon)
 
/ Skidding Winches #60  
For that price, you can get a new FX90 old model, or new FX85 delivered.

I am not sure you can get one delivered to the west coast for that price. An FX85 only pulls 8500 pounds and weighs 470 pounds. A Farmi JL501 pulls 11,000 pounds and weighs 725 pounds. Apples to Oranges. Needless to say the winch sold quick to somebody who knew what they were looking at.

Blane
 
 

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