Bucket hooks on round top bucket

[bdog]

I am wanting to put some hooks on top of my bucket. The top however is unlike any I have seen. The top edge is a pipe which leaves no flat surface to weld to. I am sure I can figure something out just curious if anyone has already mounted them on something like this and had ideas to share.

The hooks on there in the pic were put on by the previous owner. I am taking them off I don't like hooks on the edge it is easy to bend things

 

[Sysop]

These are what I used.
New 5 16 Weld on Grab Chain Hooks G 70 Bucket Trailer | eBay

The flat back with the beveled edge is ideal for welding on nearly any surface. The way they are made you could likely weld them to the flat area just behind the pipe with them extended up some and build a weld between the upper edge of the hook and where the pipe begins to round.

Not the same situation, but the same idea...

 

[Thomas]

Weld least 1/4" angle iron top of roll and bucket.

 

[Utopia Texas]

Since you will be using the hooks for chain they do not need to be right on the rounded edge of the bucket. Just move back of the rounded edge to where the metal is flat and weld away. Depending on how thick the bucket metal is you may have to weld a small back up plate on the inside of the bucket opposite of the hooks. I just bought and installed a bolt on set of hooks for my NH T 4.75 and could kick myself for not doing it years ago. The hooks are a world handier than wrapping chain all the way around the bucket.

 

[oldpilgrim]

Since you will be using the hooks for chain they do not need to be right on the rounded edge of the bucket.

Ken's Bolt on Grab Hooks <<Home>>

weld them or bolt them. Bolting is lots easier. Get the back up plates if you thing you need them.

Ken has good stuff.

 

[kennyd]

Ken's Bolt on Grab Hooks <<Home>>

weld them or bolt them. Bolting is lots easier. Get the back up plates if you thing you need them.

Ken has good stuff.

Thanks for the recommendations, but the Bolt On Hooks are not compatible with these round-topped buckets. Welding just behind the round tube seems to be the best choice.

 

[oldpilgrim]

not even putting it behind the 'tube'? Is it a double wall?

 

[Gordon Gould]

I have the HD round bucket also. When I bought the tractor the dealer recommended the edge as the best place. My hooks have been there for 15 years and I have picked some very heavy stuff on the hooks. I have never bent them digging either. Mine are a little higher than yours.

Go ahead and add some on top but I doubt if you will bend the ones you have if you leave them on.



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[Gordon Gould]

You could weld a short piece of shallow channel along the tube to give you a flat to weld or bolt on a hook'

Edit: Or angle - just as good as Thomas mentioned. Sorry I missed that.

 

[iamaumnbn]

I have the same bucket..........Here's a link to a possible solution.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/customization/310007-bucket-hooks-round-top-bar-4.html

 

[Billrog]

What post no. 4 said.

 

[bdog]

Thanks for the replies guys. Many good ideas. I really don't want them on the flat part because they will be angled such that chain can slip out. Not an issue when you have weight hanging from it but I would prefer to have gravity in my favor especially when trying to use the hooks to secure things in the bucket.

 

[PILOON]

I'd just weld on the back below the curve on the flat area closest.
For sure with the curved top edge you wont kink it with heavy loads.
Your only concern could be tear out if thin metal. To prevent that first weld the hook to a , say, 3 X 4 inch 1/4" plate and then the plate to your bucket.
Another solution would be the bolt on hooks sold on TBN with an inner backer plate.
Your best location for safe lifting is center of the bucket.

 

[TomSeller]

I welded a plate behind the tube to give more support and welded a slip hook onto it. The similarly a grab hook on each side.

 

[4570Man]

Like others have said, I would weld on a plate to reinforce the bucket then weld the hooks on. I would put three hooks on. My tractor only has one on each end. I wish it had one in the middle because it would be less likely to tip the tractor with heavy loads.

 

[aeblank]

Mine's rounded. I found a normal (non-weld-on) hook worked well.

 

[4570Man]

My tractor also has regular chain hooks. I have been unable to break then off, so they must be pretty strong.

 

[bdog]

My tractor also has regular chain hooks. I have been unable to break then off, so they must be pretty strong.

It is all relative. The lift capacity of our tractors doesn't really tax a G70 3/8 hook. WLL of a 3/8 hook is 6,600 lb. that means break point is 13,200 lb. With our 3,000 lb +/- lift we aren't coming close to hurting them.

 

[4570Man]

The strength of the hook is way more than a small tractor can pull. It is harder to get a strong weld with a regular hook VS a weld on hook.

 

[kennyd]

It is all relative. The lift capacity of our tractors doesn't really tax a G70 3/8 hook. WLL of a 3/8 hook is 6,600 lb. that means break point is 13,200 lb. With our 3,000 lb +/- lift we aren't coming close to hurting them.

WLL is generally 1/4 of break force, not 1/2.