Sharing Implements between tractor and SS

[Hilbilly]

I just picked up a used skidsteer and want to use my grapple on both the tractor and the SS. Before I started getting the hydraulic lines coordinated I realized there is bigger issue to deal with. The hydraulic fluid! I use Case Hy-trans ultra in my tractor, as that is what my dealer recommends. The seller of the SS said he uses AW 46 for hydraulic fluid in the SS and there is no way I want that in my tractor.

So the question is; can I use the Hy-trans ultra in the SS hydraulic system?

 

[J_J]

MY Case 1845c skidsteer can use HY-Trans or 10W-40 with a qt of case additives.

 

[Hilbilly]

Thanks JJ. Now I have to wait for the dealer to open so I can get some Hy Trans.

 

[Xfaxman]

What brand and model SS?

 

[DT86]

I've never been too worried about swapping spit with other machines, as long as they're not contaminated with water. Maybe I've just been lucky but no problems to date.


This includes... loaning my grapple to a guy with a New Holland skid steer, sharing hay equipment with a uncle who has a Deere tractor, renting a no-till drill that God only knows who had last and using other equipment that normally runs with New Holland fluid.

 

[J_J]

If anyone is that concerned with mixing fluid, just put the OUT hose from the implement i a bucket and run about two gal through it.

Than reconnect and do your business.

 

[Hilbilly]

What brand and model SS?

It's a 1999 Bobcat 763 with 3300 hrs on it. The hydraulic fluid was low and I called the previous owner who said he used 46 weight hydro fluid.

I've never been too worried about swapping spit with other machines, as long as they're not contaminated with water. Maybe I've just been lucky but no problems to date.


This includes... loaning my grapple to a guy with a New Holland skid steer, sharing hay equipment with a uncle who has a Deere tractor, renting a no-till drill that God only knows who had last and using other equipment that normally runs with New Holland fluid.

I like your description of "swapping spit".

I don't have any manuals for the SS and I have never owned one, so I don't know if the hydraulic fluid is just for the loader or if it is also used for the drive system and if it is used for the drive system, I'm not sure if it has the same requirements as my tractor with wet brakes and clutches. Not knowing anything about hydraulic fluids, I would rather use the recommended fluids for each machine than take a chance on some costly repairs. Given that you have not had any bad experiences, gives me a little more comfort about swapping spit but still not sure I want to take a chance with my tractor.

If anyone is that concerned with mixing fluid, just put the OUT hose from the implement i a bucket and run about two gal through it.

Than reconnect and do your business.

That's a great idea JJ and I might use that until I can get some comfort from dealers of the Bobcat and the Massey that swapping a little spit is no big deal. Judging by your comment, I'm guessing you're not concerned about getting the different fluids mixed. Is that right?

 

[bdog]

My JD skid steer uses 15-40 motor oil for the hydraulics. My previous case tractor used hydraulic fluid. I switched my post hole digger between the two with no problems. I wouldn't worry about it. People with bigger operations and lots of different equipment do this all the time.

 

[SSdoxie]

The 763 SS will work just fine with Hy-tran. The major difference in AW46 (any hydraulic/hydrostatic fluid) vs a Universal Tractor Fluid for use woth wet disc brakes is AW46 has additives to improve lubrication and seal softening agents. These additives will soften the disc brake material and extra lubrication so eventually brakes will need service/repair.
How much cross mising would occur and become a problem depends on how often you would swap grapple to each machine and what fluid capacity of the tractor is.
If you wish to chage fluid in the SS first drain reservoir with lift arms fully down and refill the Hy-tran. Run/drive SS for about 5 minutes cycling lift and bucket cylinders several times then drain reservoir again and refill again. The reservoir holds approxiamately 50% of the entire system volume so you would want to do this at least twice, maybe more.

My brother owns 2 IH tractors, 2 New Holland tractors, and Bobcat S250. For simplicty he runs Hy-tran in all of them with no problems.

 

[Xfaxman]

What about one machine with motor oil and the Toolcat with Bobcat hydraulic fluid?