Plump in Grapple on 5030

[k4330]

I just bought a root bucket with a grapple and need to plump it in with a control, I have searched through the post and have not found anything about front hydros, Has anybody done this ? .. Thanks for any info

 

[puckgrinder85]

Well either you have to add a 3rd function valve or if you have rear hydraulic remotes you can run it off one of those and run hoses to the front of the tractor and do it that way.

 

[txdon]

k4330, I just connected two long hoses one of the rear remotes.

 

[J_J]

If you have rear remotes, you can do the long hose thing, or you can get a selector/diverter valve and do it right.

Mount the diverter valve on the loader cross member.

Use a switch to select between the curl and grapple.

A true 3rd function will also get the job done and can be mounted on the loader cross member.

 

[txdon]

If you have rear remotes, you can do the long hose thing, or you can get a selector/diverter valve and do it right.

Agreed.

 

[RKJeepXJ]

I wouldn't say running lines from the rear is "wrong". Its just another option and I'm satisfied with how it works on mine and it was less expensive. If I made a living with it, and that half second to switch hand positions mattered, then maybe I'd justify the diverter valve method. Think it over and go whichever way you'll be happier with.

 

[J_J]

Here is the diverter to make it simple.

Mount up front.

Add switch to joystick lever.

Bailey International | Mobile Hydraulic Solutions

Use #220934

Default circuit is curl using A-B ports.

With voltage applied, grapple circuit C-D ports is activated.

 

[k4330]

Thanks.. I like that idea.. I think I have the idea on how to run it but Do you know of a diagram I could look at ? .. Thanks

 

[k0ua]

On my particular tractor the rear remote valve control is so convenient to access (especially after I lengthened it) that I lose no time in reaching it from the loader joystick control. If I had to reach several inches to a side lever, I would rethink my choice. I contend I can operate my control nearly as fast as a divertor or 3rd function button setup, or at least fast enough to not make a difference. But each application will be different.

 

[k4330]

I don't have rear remotes

 

[J_J]

Thanks.. I like that idea.. I think I have the idea on how to run it but Do you know of a diagram I could look at ? .. Thanks

Here is how that valve works.

You have six ports.

You disconnect the hose going to the curl cyl and route those to the Pressure port on the solenoid valve.

Then you run some hoses from the A-B ports to the curl cyl.

Then you run some hoses from the C-D ports to the grapple cyl.

Then add a switch to the joystick to control the grapple.

With no voltage, the curl is functional using the joystick.

With voltage to the solenoid, the grapple is functional using the joystick.

 

[k0ua]

I don't have rear remotes

Well that solves that,
The diverter valve that JJ pointed out is going to be your cheapest and easiest to implement.
Your first step is figuring out where you are going to mount the diverter valve. and then take some electrical cord/ or small garden hose and start "fitting" your hose routes to figure out how long of hoses to order. Order the hoses and adapters, hook up the simple electrical connections, and you are in business.

 

[puckgrinder85]

Nothing wrong running hose from the rear to the front. I routed mine in the factory sleeving and most would be hard pressed to even notice it, and I retain all my functions while needing to grapple at the same time which would be an issue for me to lose. Since he doesn't have remotes that would be the next cheapest option for sure. Make sure you fuse your power lead by the way.

 

[k4330]

Thanks for the help .. I will get the stuff ordered ..

 

[k4330]

Anybody have another good source for a valve, Baily is out of them till the end of the month .. Thanks

 

[J_J]

This valves does the same thing, but cost more.

SAE 8 15 GPM DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE 12 VDC P15544-1

 

[k4330]

How does that work with 2 solenoids ? ..Do I just use one ? That one looks tougher, The other with the plastic cap I was not so sure about .. Thanks

 

[J_J]

There is a solenoid for each set of ports. The voltage causes the solenoids to switch ports. The switch will select circuit 1 or circuit 2.

Once wired up correctly, you select the curl circuit or the grapple circuit. , and then the joystick does the work. .