Buying Advice new 4M/4R pics

[tractorslinger]

Went to the Louisville show and got to see the new 4M/R tractors. Ive attaches pics below. I will be covering the new key features in a later post.

 

[TCowner]

It looks like the moved the fuel tank to the rear on the open station tractor. If that is correct, this may be enough of a reason to trade.

 

[chevy]

It looks like the moved the fuel tank to the rear on the open station tractor. If that is correct, this may be enough of a reason to trade.

The open station tractor on display was a 4046M. The 4044R had the fuel fill cap on the left rear fender. I did not see where the fuel tank was located.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

It looks like the moved the fuel tank to the rear on the open station tractor. If that is correct, this may be enough of a reason to trade.

Why is it that important?

 

[TCowner]

Perhaps this one feature is not enough justify the cost of the trade. But as I get older filling the fuel tank on my 3720 that is in front of the steering wheel gets more and more difficult. I still use 6 gallon plastic containers and probably should convert to large overhead tank or a pump to deliver the fuel. I'm sure it would be much cheaper than the tractor trade. But the New Holland TC40D and DA tractors that I owned previously had the fuel tanks in the rear behind the seat and it was clearly more convenient to fill.

So I probably should retract my comment about the fuel tank relocation as a reason to trade. I still think it is a good idea to lessen the fuel spillage on the tractor hood but it may not be worth the $10-15,000 to trade.

 

[jd670]

I'm going to bet the under hood tank as been relocated on the 4r and 3r series tractors. Needing more room for the tier 4 emissions and possible higher engine heat under the hood. Just my 2 cents....

 

[wmonroe]

Definitely a good looking machine. Are those factory installed rear wheel spacers? Any under hood pictures?

 

[chevy]

Definitely a good looking machine. Are those factory installed rear wheel spacers? Any under hood pictures?

The spacers are a factory option.

 

[Red Horse]

Hate to say it but the pictures of the interior controls look cheesy to me. Vinyl seat on a cab tractor? No armrests? should reserve judgement but my 07 4720 looks good-except for the dumb -ss parking brake control-which I modified to the upgrade kit and that is less than good.
rear axle?What is this- a garden tractor?

 

[wmonroe]

Hate to say it but the pictures of the interior controls look cheesy to me. Vinyl seat on a cab tractor? No armrests? should reserve judgement but my 07 4720 looks good-except for the dumb -ss parking brake control-which I modified to the upgrade kit and that is less than good. rear axle?What is this- a garden tractor?

It looks from the pictures that the cab gets a cloth seat, but I do agree the open station seat should have arm rests. I think it looks like a very good machine though. what is wrong with the rear axel?

 

[Red Horse]

It looks from the pictures that the cab gets a cloth seat, but I do agree the open station seat should have arm rests. I think it looks like a very good machine though. what is wrong with the rear axel?

Isn't the picture of the vinyl seat in a Cab??

As for axle, attached picture (dirty but this thing has moved a lot of snow past few weeks) is my 07-maybe my imagination but it looks heavier

 

[sixdogs]

The front end loader looks substantially redesigned. Any thoughts on that?

 

[arlen4720]

The front end loader looks substantially redesigned. Any thoughts on that?

I hear the open station models can be equipped with a single point disconnect for the hoses, and the lines run through the frame like the big loaders.
I'm curious about the mounts...are they more solid?

 

[Red Horse]

I hear the open station models can be equipped with a single point disconnect for the hoses, and the lines run through the frame like the big loaders.
I'm curious about the mounts...are they more solid?

Well IMO, I have a 400X- the loader in the picture is self leveling- but the loader pictured sure has a lot less "mass" in the arm "tower". I have to say when I got mine and saw that "made in China" on the casting -I was leary-but 600 hours later, no complaints. It does look like the new one is fabricated from steel plate vs a casting.

 

[wmonroe]

<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=362091"/><img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=362093"/> Isn't the picture of the vinyl seat in a Cab?? As for axle, attached picture (dirty but this thing has moved a lot of snow past few weeks) is my 07-maybe my imagination but it looks heavier

I think the vinyl seat is an open station, look at the fourth picture, with a guy sitting in the cab, and the seat looks to be cloth.

Your axels appear to have a bigger housing (and square) but I think it is hard to say which is actually stronger. Hopefully the engineers did their homework and it is better/stronger.

 

[Trey318]

Looks like the chassis and the motor are all green

 

[sklunk]

The Deere site for the 4-Series is now live:

John*Deere Reveals 4 Family Compact Utility Tractors

John*Deere 4 Family Compact Utility Tractors JohnDeere.com

 

[careyprice]

Some great info here guys. Does anyone know if a mid pto will be available on the new series and is a mid mower drive over deck available? I know it's not on the current 4000 series, was hoping it would be on the new series.

 

[Dutch445]

it doesn't look like it, none of the information we have indicates they are going to have mid ptos...

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

This might not be a popular opinion here, but I think the 4000 Twenty series was far better looking. I came fairly close to purchasing a 4520 before selecting the MF 1643, so it's not like I'm a MF homeboy.

Those 4000 Twenty tractors are among the best looking tractors ever.