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[7879fordman]

Ok still a year going here and trying to decide which dang grapple why does there have to be so made different ones . Started thinking I wanted the Titan 72" weigh'n at 700 pounds . But have about decided that it doesn't have long enough lower tines . And that I mite have to lengthen them . http://bit.ly/GIkCHa

Now I think I like these which look to be the same there made with the same metal and what not . Just ones about $300 cheaper over all . There 74" only one has a weight 900 pounds seem heavy . So my worry is the weight .
The first two pics are from one dealer and its pics of there 66" Which has 6 tines there 74" does have 7 tines just like the other . And the other three is from another . Look to be the same . Design and everything .
This rake style what I'm 100% sure I want single top part .. .. Any thought on the weight on the m7040 . About a 200 pound difference. The m7040 lift is 2300# or 2500# depending on which position its in . Is a 900# grapple losing to much payload pick up. Or is there another or two in this style I'm miss'n that i haven't look'n at .
Here's link to there 84" http://bit.ly/1flFAaD

Here's link to there 74" http://bit.ly/12u0SQ7

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[Ken45101]

FWIW, I think the single top is a mistake. It will not hold uneven loads like a tapered log or a stump.

As far as weight, more weight means more steel and, if used right, means more strength. What are you planning to be using this for that payload is important?

As for tine spacing, some manufacturers offer additional tines as an option. I did that on my grapple.

Usually I have heard that you do not need full width on a grapple. Most recommendations are for something more narrow. That's what I did and I have no regrets. That will save you on weight.

 

[Xfaxman]

Ok still a year going here and trying to decide which dang grapple why does there have to be so made different ones . Started thinking I wanted the Titan 72" weigh'n at 700 pounds . But have about decided that it doesn't have long enough lower tines . And that I mite have to lengthen them. If you lengthen the bottom tines, the top clamp won't work for picking up logs.

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This rake style what I'm 100% sure I want single top part .. .. Any thought on the weight on the m7040 . About a 200 pound difference. The m7040 lift is 2300# or 2500# depending on which position its in . Is a 900# grapple losing to much payload pick up. Or is there another or two in this style I'm miss'n that i haven't look'n at .
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What will be the main thing that you will use the grapple for?

Did you see the Texas Grapple Shootout thread by txdon? It might help you decide:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/297679-texas-grapple-shootout-3.html

 

[jerry shannon]

I have an Eagle Talon grapple for my Bobcat 863F Turbo. Works fantastic. Heavy and almost indestructible.
I use it mostly for brush and fence row clearing but works great on concrete, boulders and any other think I can get it's jaws around. It is a a rake first and foremast. Top and bottom are the same. Intersect each other. Does not have teeth on the bottom, just curved tines. Very robust.

 

[7879fordman]

FWIW, I think the single top is a mistake. It will not hold uneven loads like a tapered log or a stump.

As far as weight, more weight means more steel and, if used right, means more strength. What are you planning to be using this for that payload is important?

As for tine spacing, some manufacturers offer additional tines as an option. I did that on my grapple.

Usually I have heard that you do not need full width on a grapple. Most recommendations are for something more narrow. That's what I did and I have no regrets. That will save you on weight.

I have used the double lid grapples and didn't like them . They want clamp all the way down . If ya need to grab small stuff . Plus all the double clamps are more of a bucket design . Where ya have to get the tines under the objects .

I want a rake style so I can rake . I need it to clean brush and logs and big rocks . I am have'n 80 acres logged and am want to clean some before I hire a dozer to shear and pile . Plus I can I alway use it on a 500 acre farm plus I need it if I want to do storm clean up from ice storms to Hurricanes . And they need to be able to dump over 6' sides on my dump trailers . And these rake style I can us to grab round rolls of hay if I want and double clamps just want work as good .



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[7879fordman]

The main thing is I'm worried about it weight . Lose'n payload weight .

But I looked at the landpride 72" rake style and its 900+ pounds .

I'm a 110% I want a rake single lid right now for what I want it to do .

I'm think hard about just buying the Titan and if I'm not happy I will have a cheap plat form to make it they way I think it needs to work if need be .

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[Xfaxman]

The main thing is I'm worried about it weight . Lose'n payload weight .

But I looked at the landpride 72" rake style and its 900+ pounds .

I'm a 110% I want a rake single lid right now for what I want it to do .

I'm think hard about just buying the Titan and if I'm not happy I will have a cheap plat form to make it they way I think it needs to work if need be .

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Have you seen this one?

Everything Attachments Tractor Loader Root Rake Grapple

• Approximate weight: 420 pounds (60") and 460 pounds (72")

From: Everything Attachments Tractor Loader Root Rake Grapple

 

[jerry shannon]

I have used the double lid grapples and didn't like them . They want clamp all the way down . If ya need to grab small stuff . Plus all the double clamps are more of a bucket design . Where ya have to get the tines under the objects .

I want a rake style so I can rake . I need it to clean brush and logs and big rocks . I am have'n 80 acres logged and am want to clean some before I hire a dozer to shear and pile . Plus I can I alway use it on a 500 acre farm plus I need it if I want to do storm clean up from ice storms to Hurricanes . And they need to be able to dump over 6' sides on my dump trailers . And these rake style I can us to grab round rolls of hay if I want and double clamps just want work as good .


My Eagle Talon grapple is a single and not a double top unit. It's a beast. I use it for round bales, boulders, trees, limbs, back dragging as a rake, push out stumps. It's the best attachment I have ever bought. My only concern with going with a lite unit is damage. My brother in law bought a light weight unit and he laughed at my unit. He is a dairy farmer. His hired help tore that unit up. The tines all bent and hoses and rams shot. In a less than a year. i beat my to death and the only damage is the black enamle is rubbed off the tines.




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My Eagle Talon grapple is a single and not a double top unit. It's a beast. I use it for round bales, boulders, trees, limbs, back dragging as a rake, push out stumps. It's the best attachment I have ever bought. My only concern with going with a lite unit is damage. My brother in law bought a light weight unit and he laughed at my unit. He is a dairy farmer. His hired help tore that unit up. The tines all bent and hoses and rams shot. In a less than a year. i beat my to death and the only damage is the black enamle is rubbed off the tines.

 

[jerry shannon]

FWIW, I think the single top is a mistake. It will not hold uneven loads like a tapered log or a stump.

As far as weight, more weight means more steel and, if used right, means more strength. What are you planning to be using this for that payload is important?

As for tine spacing, some manufacturers offer additional tines as an option. I did that on my grapple.

Usually I have heard that you do not need full width on a grapple. Most recommendations are for something more narrow. That's what I did and I have no regrets. That will save you on weight.

I have a single top grapple. Tree stumps, logs, you name it and it will grab and hold it. I have never had a problem with it not holding an uneven load. I see your point, I am just saying I have not had that be a problem.

 

[7879fordman]

Ya I don't light weight either . But was and am worried about a 900# one on the m7040 worried I mite lose to much pay load .

Just got out of the local kubota dealer and we looked at there landpride 74" and its heavy and the dealer said it would be ok . But he would go with a 60" or so to shave weight .

But the he told me to go check a tractor auction place here that they sold new grapples and they would be a better price .

So more shopping and think'n I guess .

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[7879fordman]

Looks like the other place my kubota dealer told my about carries the wildkat attachments . So going to look at them tomorrow . He priced the 74" single lid for $1700 . So it maybe the one I get . He said he just a whole trailer loads of wildkat grapples in .









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[terryknight]

i have a 74" wildkat bought it at Ritchie Brothers auction for 1200. they sy it weighs about 850lbs i think it is at least 100 lbs lighter. i wanted one tht would be wider than my tires. i have been using it to clear land. push over small tree and clean up. run it on a JD 5055E lift capacity at the pins is 3100





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[7879fordman]

Well I ended up with this wildkat its not the extreme like I was planning to get . As the extreme seemed way to heavy duty and it sure looks super heavy in person . And the dealer didn't get the 66" in on the truck and the 74" just looked way to much of a monster . We didn't have a weight of the one I got so I have to call wildkat and find out . It's got to be way lighter than the extreme . But still looks more than plenty stout . I got it in a 72" as the next size smaller was 60" I felt it wasn't that much lighter . Got to dark when I got home with it and to cold to put it on and play with .

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[txdon]

As you will soon find out the weight of brush and trees is not like a bucket of wet mud and you will not come close to your weight limitations on that tractor. Good price! Similar bottom tine design as mine. let us know how it works out for you. How are you connecting the hydraulics?

 

[7879fordman]

As you will soon find out the weight of brush and trees is not like a bucket of wet mud and you will not come close to your weight limitations on that tractor. Good price! Similar bottom tine design as mine. let us know how it works out for you. How are you connecting the hydraulics?

To the 3rd function that I had the dealer install when I bought the tractor last year . I knew I was going to get a grapple when I bought it .

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[7879fordman]

Well I ended up with this wildkat its not the extreme like I was planning to get . As the extreme seemed way to heavy duty and it sure looks super heavy in person . And the dealer didn't get the 66" in on the truck and the 74" just looked way to much of a monster . We didn't have a weight of the one I got so I have to call wildkat and find out . It's got to be way lighter than the extreme . But still looks more than plenty stout . I got it in a 72" as the next size smaller was 60" I felt it wasn't that much lighter . Got to dark when I got home with it and to cold to put it on and play with .

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This wildkat grapple is 600 pounds and it is a $1500 grapple . That I bought .
It's seems plenty Stout thought .

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[7879fordman]

Play'n with the grapple today . Going to have to shim the quick hitch part up on the grapple has some slack . And get the hoses where they stay out the way . But over all going to be fun use'n it .

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[sd455dan]

Well I ended up with this wildkat its not the extreme like I was planning to get . As the extreme seemed way to heavy duty and it sure looks super heavy in person . And the dealer didn't get the 66" in on the truck and the 74" just looked way to much of a monster . We didn't have a weight of the one I got so I have to call wildkat and find out . It's got to be way lighter than the extreme . But still looks more than plenty stout . I got it in a 72" as the next size smaller was 60" I felt it wasn't that much lighter . Got to dark when I got home with it and to cold to put it on and play with .

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Nice grapple - really like the protected rear mounted hydraulic cylinders - Should serve you well :thumbsup:

 

[7879fordman]

Nice grapple - really like the protected rear mounted hydraulic cylinders - Should serve you well :thumbsup:

Thanks ya I love it so far . I like it because I can rake with ease and instead of having to get the tines under what ever I picking up I can curl over on top of it and grab with easily .
Can't do that with the other design with the two independent lids . And on that design ya can't back rake with the lid . And they want close as tight as these design either . And when ya dump it ya don't have to curl down as far to dump .







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[the whispering oaks farm]

I think you did well, that is the style I wanted but ended up buying the titan grapple for the price. mine works fine and is really heavy duty but I think your single lid design and the lower teeth would be a bit easier for clean up work.
Nice unit, enjoy. Bruce