Would you buy another PT?

[ovrszd]

Sounds like someone has Corvette syndrome.

Sounds like someone has "size" syndrome.

 

[brin]

I've always looked at PT's as kids toys.....or fun toys for city folks playing farmer....

 

[MossRoad]

It does the tasks we need it to do better than anything else for the price. Please find us something that will outwork it in the same size, weight, price category and we'll lower our guns. unch:

 

[ovrszd]

I didn't know we were "shooting" at each other. I simply responded to your formidable comments. It's a perfect tool for what it's made for. Nothing more than that. Certainly doesn't instill fear. As Brin said, it would be fun to have.

 

[MuncyBob]

The cramped engine compartment is a P.I.T.A. I don't weld but I finally found some one who said he could install a detachable floor plate in the engine box for clean out & maintenance and stifle the loud muffler. These are my two biggest complaints.

An interesting idea...how about some pics? How did doing this stifle the muffler?

 

[MuncyBob]

As mentioned, this machine is great at doing what it was designed to do. I bought it since most of the time I don't need a large tractor and it was in my price range. For those time I need more grunt power I run down the road and rent something. So, yes I would buy another PT but it would be at least the 425 with a fuel injected engine.

 

[MossRoad]

I've always looked at PT's as kids toys.....or fun toys for city folks playing farmer....

Its definitely not an ag machine. Doesn't have the pulling power to pull dirt plows or stumps. Its hardly a kids toy. Many are sold to landscapers for professional use. It will plain and simple run circles around other machines its size when it comes to moving landscaping material, snow plowing, mowing, tiller, etc.... Its quicker and more nimble with a heavier lift capacity. Its also simple to work on and highly customizable. And.... its made right here in America. :united-states:

 

[ovrszd]

Its definitely not an ag machine. Doesn't have the pulling power to pull dirt plows or stumps. Its hardly a kids toy. Many are sold to landscapers for professional use. It will plain and simple run circles around other machines its size when it comes to moving landscaping material, snow plowing, mowing, tiller, etc.... Its quicker and more nimble with a heavier lift capacity. Its also simple to work on and highly customizable. And.... its made right here in America. :united-states:

See now, that's what you should have said earlier, without the "formidable" part...

 

[MossRoad]

Its all tongue in cheek here in the PT forums. :drink:

 

[KMA]

Pound for pound, the PT425 is pretty formidable. Yeah. Formidable

forｷmiｷdaｷble

/ˈf?mədəbəl,f?ˈmidəbəl,fərˈmid-/

adjective
adjective: formidable
1. inspiring fear or respect through being impressively large, powerful, intense, or capable.

After a chest thumping proclaimation like this post I had no choice but click on the little tractor for video proof. Yep handy "little" implement. Nimble. Practical for light work. Variable in it's abilities. Formidable,,,, nope. Does just what it's designed to do with no fear or respect through being impressively large, powerful, intense, or capable.

If you like being nit picky... you should note the two "or's" in MossRoad's definition. By your own admission it looks "handy", "nimble", "practical" and "variable in it's abilities". That sounds like a machine that could "inspire respect through being impressively capable".

It sounded to me like much of your opinion was based around the PT4xx's size. They actually do weigh quite a bit, and when matched up against the average person's home tractor they could be considered "impressively large, powerful, intense, or capable" in comparison. The work-to-size ratio is probably very high when compared other tractors. I'm curious though... do you consider your tractor "formidable"? How about when it's up against a D10? Point being... everything looks small when next to something bigger, and its all relative to what it is being compared against.

That all being said, formidable is the not first word that I would pick to describe the PT4xx, but IMHO the average person would not be crazy for thinking it was.

 

[IslandTractor]

I've always looked at PT's as kids toys.....or fun toys for city folks playing farmer....

Nah, they are tools just like tractors. Smaller than some and equal to others. I once debated between a PT425 and BX24. Very comparable in many ways. I'd be happy to have either as a much more flexible solution to working around the house or for smaller tasks that don't require a full size CUT. My 40hp CUT is too big to mow around the house and frankly only about a quarter of the tasks I do with it could not be done by the PT or BX with just a bit more time. I'm a fan (of both the PT and BX TLB).

 

[ovrszd]

If you like being nit picky... you should note the two "or's" in MossRoad's definition. By your own admission it looks "handy", "nimble", "practical" and "variable in it's abilities". That sounds like a machine that could "inspire respect through being impressively capable".

It sounded to me like much of your opinion was based around the PT4xx's size. They actually do weigh quite a bit, and when matched up against the average person's home tractor they could be considered "impressively large, powerful, intense, or capable" in comparison. The work-to-size ratio is probably very high when compared other tractors. I'm curious though... do you consider your tractor "formidable"? How about when it's up against a D10? Point being... everything looks small when next to something bigger, and its all relative to what it is being compared against.

That all being said, formidable is the not first word that I would pick to describe the PT4xx, but IMHO the average person would not be crazy for thinking it was.

Where was I being nit picky???

My opinion is based on it's configuration. I believe my Yamaha Rhino has more underbelly clearance. It appears to be a very capable machine on relatively level and smooth terrain.

I certainly do not think my tractor is formidable. I never made any comparisons between either of my tractors and the PT. Would you like to have that comparable discussion between my tractor and your PT??

So you agree then that formidable might not be the right descriptive word for the PT?

 

[MossRoad]

I've always looked at PT's as kids toys.....or fun toys for city folks playing farmer....

Have you looked at their 45 degree slope mower? Its hardly a kids toy.

 

[MossRoad]

Intentional or not, here's where you got folks riled up. "little".

After a chest thumping proclaimation like this post I had no choice but click on the little tractor for video proof. Yep handy "little" implement. Nimble. Practical for light work. Variable in it's abilities. Formidable,,,, nope. Does just what it's designed to do with no fear or respect through being impressively large, powerful, intense, or capable.

Why did you have to put little in quotes? That indicates intentional.

Anyhow, I had an International Harvester IH2500b for about 10 years. Its an 8000# 50PTO HP tractor loader with cab. I used it at my tree farm to get the larger tasks done, like cutting in the road from the highway and brush hogging between the rows of trees. Once those large tasks were done, that machine was no longer needed or practical. I went to downsize to a machine that was correct for my needs. I considered Kubotas, JDs, NH, and others. Kept coming back to this machine. I use it to not only maintain my 1 acre home property, I also use it to maintain my "city folks playing farm" (thanks Brin ) 20 acre tree farm. I've got real farm number with the government and everything since 1989, so I've been playing farm for 25 years. I'm currently harvesting firewood off of it on steep sandy slopes with the PT425, maintaining a plot of mixed hardwoods for veneer timber and mowing about a mile and a half of hiking and running trails that a large conventional tractor could not do in a safe or timely fashion. I'm going far more places on that property than I ever could with the big IH and leaving almost no footprint thanks to the articulation. Its a highly capable machine, which fits the definition of formidable when applied to the correct tasks. There's quite a few PT owners on TBN that also own conventional tractors. They'll tell you its strong and weak points. And they'll tell you they really, really like their PTs. :licking:

 

[DT86]

Have you looked at their 45 degree slope mower? Its hardly a kids toy.

I would pay to get to drive one of those! :drool:

I live a little over an hour away from Power Trac and have been by their place several times, sadly never during business hours.

 

[woodlandfarms]

I saw SWVA and thought it was WA. Was going to say get up here and have a drive...

Its a cool machine. Problem is that your built in puckerometer will fail way before the tractor will. I would love to try Peters 1445. That might have been a better purchase for me as I seem to push the limits of my machine a lot.

 

[SpringHollow]

Where was I being nit picky???

My opinion is based on it's configuration. I believe my Yamaha Rhino has more underbelly clearance. It appears to be a very capable machine on relatively level and smooth terrain.

Laughs - The whole reason I bought the PT was that my property has no level spots other than part of the driveway and the the springs mean my trails are never dry and need a tractor with a light footprint. I owned 4 other traditional CUTs up to 45 HP. They were nice tractors that I was only able to use on my trails 1 day in over 10 years. Heavy lifting with them was always an adrenaline raising event as a wheel would start to lift off of the ground due to the slope. With my PT without using the duals, I do U-turns on the bank of my creek as I am driving out with a full bucket at 4' height. 20+° degree slope in two directions. I could not do that empty with the CUTs. PT's in all sizes excel in their slope capabilities relative to CUTs.

Every tool has its place. For me, the PT is the right tool for my needs. If I was a "flat lander" dirt farmer, I would feel otherwise.

Ken

 

[brin]

Nah, they are tools just like tractors. Smaller than some and equal to others. I once debated between a PT425 and BX24. Very comparable in many ways. I'd be happy to have either as a much more flexible solution to working around the house or for smaller tasks that don't require a full size CUT. My 40hp CUT is too big to mow around the house and frankly only about a quarter of the tasks I do with it could not be done by the PT or BX with just a bit more time. I'm a fan (of both the PT and BX TLB).

Like Moss said...All tongue in cheek....Moss knows I was just kidding him....LOL

 

[IslandTractor]

Like Moss said...All tongue in cheek....Moss knows I was just kidding him....LOL

Maybe, but I wasn't kidding.....I want one!

 

[ovrszd]

Intentional or not, here's where you got folks riled up. "little". Why did you have to put little in quotes? That indicates intentional.

Anyhow, I had an International Harvester IH2500b for about 10 years. Its an 8000# 50PTO HP tractor loader with cab. I used it at my tree farm to get the larger tasks done, like cutting in the road from the highway and brush hogging between the rows of trees. Once those large tasks were done, that machine was no longer needed or practical. I went to downsize to a machine that was correct for my needs. I considered Kubotas, JDs, NH, and others. Kept coming back to this machine. I use it to not only maintain my 1 acre home property, I also use it to maintain my "city folks playing farm" (thanks Brin ) 20 acre tree farm. I've got real farm number with the government and everything since 1989, so I've been playing farm for 25 years. I'm currently harvesting firewood off of it on steep sandy slopes with the PT425, maintaining a plot of mixed hardwoods for veneer timber and mowing about a mile and a half of hiking and running trails that a large conventional tractor could not do in a safe or timely fashion. I'm going far more places on that property than I ever could with the big IH and leaving almost no footprint thanks to the articulation. Its a highly capable machine, which fits the definition of formidable when applied to the correct tasks. There's quite a few PT owners on TBN that also own conventional tractors. They'll tell you its strong and weak points. And they'll tell you they really, really like their PTs. :licking:

MossRoad,,,, I followed your own description of your tractor in your signature. I "quoted" because you used the word first in your own description.... Not sure why anyone would get riled up about that. Then you turned it into "Corvette Syndrome". Not sure why that was done either.

Kinda like you "quoting" Brin's remarks.

I agree concerning usefulness of the PT. It's in a category of it's own. Nothing more, nothing less.