LS Frame Issue Video

boomer632 · Dec 17, 2013

Has anyone seen this video? I came across it while looking on YT.

R3039 frame modification - YouTube

Guesseral · Dec 17, 2013

Wow I will have to go home and look at my Montana tonight and see if I have that plate! I would have to assume (hope) that I do because it is a 2009 model.

ozley · Dec 18, 2013

Guesseral said:
Wow I will have to go home and look at my Montana tonight and see if I have that plate! I would have to assume (hope) that I do because it is a 2009 model.

I don't think that was a factory fix. I think that was someone in a shop making it work.

boomer632 · Dec 18, 2013

My concern is not who makes the repair as much as why the repair had to be made? Is this an issue that happens with the "R" series machines and should we be concerned?

GManBart · Dec 18, 2013

boomer632 said:
My concern is not who makes the repair as much as why the repair had to be made? Is this an issue that happens with the "R" series machines and should we be concerned?

In the video he said they saw the problem with R3039s, but they have a different frame than the 4041/4047, so it's hard to say.

Guesseral · Dec 18, 2013

GManBart said:
In the video he said they saw the problem with R3039s, but they have a different frame than the 4041/4047, so it's hard to say.

I thought the video said that they had originally seen the problem in the 47 HP Montana model which is the same! Maybe I should look again.

Modified
Correction he said the 45 HP Montana.

ozley · Dec 18, 2013

Thought for a min. I found the maker of the videos he does tractor repairs but the web site isn't there any longer.
http://www.fastline.com/v100/farm-e...-WI/3e5d0391-233c-4151-bc03-d2fbb6942617.aspx

Guesseral · Dec 19, 2013

Well I looked last night and I don't have the plate. I assumed that he was an engineer for LS guess I was wrong!

boomer632 · Dec 19, 2013

I hope this isnt something that will creep up one day. One thing I did notice.. He left the studs in the back of the block, then welded the bracket in, then put the nuts on the studs. If, in the future, he had to remove the motor, the studs would prevent the engine from disengaging from the bracket. He would probably have to remove the studs to lift the engine out. Grade 8 bolts going through the plate, into the block may have been a better option. Just an observation.

TSO · Dec 19, 2013

boomer632 said:
I hope this isnt something that will creep up one day. One thing I did notice.. He left the studs in the back of the block, then welded the bracket in, then put the nuts on the studs. If, in the future, he had to remove the motor, the studs would prevent the engine from disengaging from the bracket. He would probably have to remove the studs to lift the engine out. Grade 8 bolts going through the plate, into the block may have been a better option. Just an observation.

Good point about the studs ... although, the engine can just slide out backwards once all the side bolts, and those 2 new ones, have the nuts removed. Clearly he's got that tractor torn down completely, so if he had to remove the engine, he'd probably get to that point again anyhow.

Looks like an easy enough fix. I'll have to take a look at mine and see if there have been any modifications or changes made from the factory. I don't have any interest in tearing my tractor down like that though, so hopefully I never need to make the modification!

That's the first time I've heard of an issue (or seen it posted) regardless of what badge the LS was wearing, so maybe it's a very isolated incidence. :confused2:

ZFish · Mar 4, 2014

hey guys how come the video don't work? should I stay away from the r3039 or the r 4041????????????

ozley · Mar 4, 2014

ZFish said:
hey guys how come the video don't work? should I stay away from the r3039 or the r 4041????????????

No I would not worry about it. Haven't heard or seen the problem except for that video. Has
Anyone else ?

joemd11 · Mar 4, 2014

The video is not working anymore. Can someone give a brief description of the problem. Thanks.

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Gary Fowler · Mar 4, 2014

Why was all the videos pulled? Maybe it was something to do with falsifying documentation in an attempt to discredit LS tractors. No one has heard of this problem on TBN and if it was a problem, I am sure we would have heard something about it, so I doubt it is a design flaw.

GManBart · Mar 5, 2014

Certainly does seem suspect that the video has been pulled.

leonardo · Mar 11, 2014

just looked at this thread. video disabled. sorry if i'm not totally up to speed on the subject. i have a 2012 ls 3039 that i bought new. was working it the other day and it started making an awful racket. called dealer to come out and tell me what's wrong. he says radiator fan is hitting the shroud. and this is happening because your frame is cracked. new frame replaced under warranty. and new frame came with a plate(re-enforcement brace). that's my experience for what it's worth. happened a month ago. 220 hrs. tractor used for brush hogging, snow removal, hauling logs, moving firewood in bucket.

ZFish · Mar 11, 2014

leonardo said:
just looked at this thread. video disabled. sorry if i'm not totally up to speed on the subject. i have a 2012 ls 3039 that i bought new. was working it the other day and it started making an awful racket. called dealer to come out and tell me what's wrong. he says radiator fan is hitting the shroud. and this is happening because your frame is cracked.
new frame replaced under warranty. and new frame came with a plate(re-enforcement brace). that's my experience for what it's worth. happened a month ago. 220 hrs. tractor used for brush hogging, snow removal, hauling logs, moving firewood in bucket.

Good info right there! I have come to decide that im not a farmer nor do I own a ranch. So there a tractor at this point is n It for me! How ever I have decided to look at backhoes, industrial equipment is more for my needs!

Underdog57 · Mar 11, 2014

I remember watching that video and then running out to the garage and looking at my tractor to see if I had that type of frame. I watched it about a week after I bought mine, kinda scared me. I don't think the 4041/4047 have that type do they?

leonardo · Mar 12, 2014

it is my understanding that the 4041 has a heavier duty frame than the 3039. perhaps someone can verify.

Guesseral · Mar 12, 2014

Underdog57 said:
I remember watching that video and then running out to the garage and looking at my tractor to see if I had that type of frame. I watched it about a week after I bought mine, kinda scared me. I don't think the 4041/4047 have that type do they?

That's funny! Oh yea I did the same thing. :confused3: