stickweld 140 review

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CNC Dan

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So I got my new welder last Thursday and over this weekend I got a chance to mess around with it.

The construction is more substantial than I expected. The front and back panels are of a much thicker and stronger plastic than the pictures would lead you to believe. The fit is tight, nothing rattles. The amperage knob is firm and smooth. You won't have any trouble setting the current to what you want, nor will you change the setting by mistake if you turn off the power switch with heavy gloves on.

The input cord has a NEMA 6-50 plug on it, witch was a surprise, as the manual has a whole section on putting your own on. It also comes with an adapter pigtail to convert to a NEMA 5-15 plug. Nice touch. The cord has markings that indicate that it is 12 gauge wire, but when I cut off the plug and switched to what I needed, the wire seemed larger. Perhaps it is the closest metric equivalent.

The welding leads are attached to the welder via 25mm dinse connectors. The cables dinse connectors seem to be made in Germany and are of high quality.
The ground clamp seems a little light to me, but I am used to much larger welders. It will likely be fine for 140 amps. The electrode holder is good and heavy enough, with copper construction. I cant tell what gauge the leads are, but thay are plenty big enough for 140 amps. The only negative thing I can say is that the leads are too short at about 5ft. But you can bring the welder to the work easy enough. But it is easy to change them out too, as I have already done.

When I first got the welder I couldn't wait and I plugged it into a 120 volt outlet and burned a rod of 3/32-7018AC. It did well and then I had to get to work, so I didn't have a chance to do any more with it till Saturday. I checked with Simon and he said that it wouldn't void the warranty if I cut off the plug and put my own on, so that's what I did. Now I can run it on 208 volts and see what it can really do. So I got a 1/8-6011 rod and tried that. I had a hard time keeping it lit. Every few seconds it would go out, then start up again. I figured it was the 208 volt input power not being high enough. So I switched to 3/32 6011 and tried again. Same results. I switched to 120 volts and, still the same. I tried a very short arc length, feeling the flux touching the metal but it still did it. I switched to 3/32-7018 and had no problems. So I went back to 208 volts and tried a 1/8-7018 at 130 amps and it went fine. So it looks like 6011 is out. I forgot that I had some 1/8-6013 so I will have to try that next.
I'm not sure if I can find any 7014 localy, and I don't want to buy a lot online and find out that it doesn't run well. I'll stop by my LWS after work Monday and see what he has.

I also discovered that it can put out 100 amps on a 120 volt 20 amp circuit. 110 trips the breaker right away. I figure you could run 90 amps all day long.

I ran several rods for about an hour trying diferent settings and never got it to reach the auto shutdown point. No wonder, as it has a great fan that moves a lot of air through
the machine.

Also in the box was a little wire brush/slag hammer, and a hand held face shield. I think they have to include the face shield so someone doesn't to weld without one. But I can't imagine using it. The little brush thing isn't very usefull either. But I suppose it is good if you were just starting out. At least you would have something.
 
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If you get a chance pick up some Hobart 335-A 6011. There must be arc stabilizer in the flux, I never seen a rod so easy to run! ;)
 
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Some pics:
The box arrives:
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The welder and leads:
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The DINSE connector:
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6011 top and 7018 bottom:
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Best weld I did that day, 7018:
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Those don't look bad at all, little cold though. I say this all the time, it is hard for anybody to make a weld on a flat plate look good. Do some lap joints, or some fillet welds.
 
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Shield Arc said:
Those don't look bad at all, little cold though. I say this all the time, it is hard for anybody to make a weld on a flat plate look good. Do some lap joints, or some fillet welds.

Cold indeed. I measured 75 OC volts but I think the arc volts are so low that even at recomened amps there isn't that much heat. If I can get someone to help watch the voltmeter while I weld, I'll post the results. If I can I'll do the same with my Miller Dynasty 200DX an see what the diferance is.
 
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Either to cold, or your travel speed is to slow. See how your 7018 welds are humped up?
Look at this 7018 weld I made.
 

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Shield Arc said:
Either to cold, or your travel speed is to slow. See how your 7018 welds are humped up?
Too cold. Too short an arc length.
I suspect low arc volts. Tried going faster, but had lots of pinholes when I did. Plus I'm not used to 3/32 rods.

With the 6011 I had to bury the arc below the surface to keep it lit at the recomened amps. If i turned the amps way up, the rods started to cook. Or if I tried to weld like I usualy do the arc would go out 1 second out of every 4.
Drove me nuts.
 
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i have the everlast 140 ,i did not like the short leads either.i have not tried it on 110.220 it welds just fine.i really like the arc and have no trouble running 3/32 7018 with mine.
 
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Too short an arc length.
I'm not sure you can even do that with 7018. A lot of people just drag the rod a long the plate! I don't, I like to have control of the heat by controlling the arc length. Open the arc length and the heat goes up, close the arc length and the heat goes down. By doing this you change the voltage, it is almost like a very fine amp adjustment.

I'd like to get my hands on your machine to see what is really going on:confused:, but as much trouble as you are having with that machine:confused3:, I think I'd send it back and buy an Everlast.
 
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Hate to bad mouth the machine without getting my hands on it.
I can only tell you guys my experience, but my little Everlast PA-200 works flawlessly. I just wish I would have waited until the PA-300 came out, then I'd have adjustable arc force, and hot start, just like my $5,000.00 Lincoln V350-Pro has.
 
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cowski said:
i have the everlast 140 ,i did not like the short leads either.i have not tried it on 110.220 it welds just fine.i really like the arc and have no trouble running 3/32 7018 with mine.

No troubble with 7018.
troubble with 6011.
 
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Too short an arc length.

Shield Arc said:
I'm not sure you can even do that with 7018.
I was refering to 6011.

A lot of people just drag the rod a long the plate! I don't, I like to have control of the heat by controlling the arc length. Open the arc length and the heat goes up, close the arc length and the heat goes down. By doing this you change the voltage, it is almost like a very fine amp adjustment.

yah, I get it. but the arc goes out if i don't bury the rod.
I'd like to get my hands on your machine to see what is really going on:confused:, but as much trouble as you are having with that machine:confused3:, I think I'd send it back and buy an Everlast.
I won't send it back unless I'm sure there a defect with the machine, not just a quirk of this kind of welder.

I might send it to you sometime, but I'm not done trying it out yet.
BTW where are you located? I'm in MA.

I would like to get an Everlast machine too, just to see if there is any diferance. Not sure I want to put $300~ towards another welder I don't realy need, $200 maybe.
 
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cowski said:
i have the everlast 140 ,i did not like the short leads either.i have not tried it on 110.220 it welds just fine.i really like the arc and have no trouble running 3/32 7018 with mine.

Have you tried any 6011?
 
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Thanks for the great review Dan. :thumbsup:
The problem with 6011 would be a deal breaker for me. I need to use 6011 or 6010 on this farm equipment that's sometimes really hard to clean up because of tight places.
 
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Reading on some of the welding forums I guess it is not uncommon at all for these little inverters to have problems with 6010. Can't say I've ever read where one had problems with 6011 tho:confused:. Sure wish Dan could get a hold of some Hobart 335A 6011. I've done some playing around with this Hobart 6011, with the same joint configuration, amp for amp volt for volt it penetrates better than any 6010 I've tried, now that is Hobart, Lincoln, and ESAB.

Here is some ESAB 10P-Plus 6010 I ran with my Everlast PA-200.
 

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Shield Arc said:

With a 50lb minimum order I'm going to have to pass on that.
Tomorrow I'll stop by my LWS and see what he has available. I can probably get two of anything he has as a sample, but I need to find a source for smaller than 1/8 rods (LWS doesn't have much under 1/8) so I can run the welder on 120 volts(90 amp output).
 
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cowski said:
i have the everlast 140 ,i did not like the short leads either.i have not tried it on 110.220 it welds just fine.i really like the arc and have no trouble running 3/32 7018 with mine.

Have you tried any other rods?
How about 1/8 7018?
 

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