How would you handle this neighbor issue?

[EddieWalker]

Hello Robert,

I have read many of your post over the years and know you are a very level headed person. I think you are correct in the way you are handling the situation.

I too would like to see pictures of your harvest:thumbsup:

David

David beat me to it and wrote almost word for word what I was going to write, so I'm just going to copy his post and say I agree 100%!!!

Eddie

 

[Robert_in_NY]

David beat me to it and wrote almost word for word what I was going to write, so I'm just going to copy his post and say I agree 100%!!!

Eddie

Thank you Eddie, I hope your doing well.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Here is a better view of the trees. Total size is around 1 acre so its not that big of an area but I have no interest in clear cutting them.

 

[firefighter9208]

Robert,

Thanks for taking the time to write up the process for growing grapes.

Chris

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Robert,

Thanks for taking the time to write up the process for growing grapes.

Chris

Your welcome

 

[dmccarty]

Your welcome

Yes the write up was very interesting. With all of the hired help with harvesting is their a good profit margin? Assuming mother nature is kind.

It always amazes me how much money is tied into harvesting farm products.

Later,
Dan

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Yes the write up was very interesting. With all of the hired help with harvesting is their a good profit margin? Assuming mother nature is kind.

It always amazes me how much money is tied into harvesting farm products.

Later,
Dan

Yes, there is a decent profit margin. Around here the very large vineyards already have the workforce on hand. The other big farms usually join together so they share in the equipment and labor without needing to bring much more in.

 

[tractorshopper]

Bought my first house when I was 22 or 23. Had a survey done before I closed really just on recommendation of the realtor. Apparently a previous survey had been incorrect and the propertly line had a new pin installed on one of the 4 corners. Even while I was moving in and nieghbors were bringing goodies or stopping in to introduce themselves, the elder gentlemen's dad from next door (his dad lived on the other side of him) came down and started raising cain with me over the property line and telling me that 8' strip of land was his. I didn't disrepect him, but found the guts to tell him directly that I paid for the survey and that's where they put the pin so unless he wanted to pay for his own survey to confirm it or move it again, I would treat that as my property as long as I lived there.

Funny thing is though that that sliver of land was nothing but unusable hillside and I had to tend to it all the years I lived there with a weedeater. Who was the smart one? Maybe the old-timer.

I have gotten a survey on every land or home purchase since then. Worth the peace of mind to me.

 

[beppington]

Bought my first house when I was 22 or 23. Had a survey done before I closed really just on recommendation of the realtor. Apparently a previous survey had been incorrect and the propertly line had a new pin installed on one of the 4 corners. Even while I was moving in and nieghbors were bringing goodies or stopping in to introduce themselves, the elder gentlemen's dad from next door (his dad lived on the other side of him) came down and started raising cain with me over the property line and telling me that 8' strip of land was his. I didn't disrepect him, but found the guts to tell him directly that I paid for the survey and that's where they put the pin so unless he wanted to pay for his own survey to confirm it or move it again, I would treat that as my property as long as I lived there.

Funny thing is though that that sliver of land was nothing but unusable hillside and I had to tend to it all the years I lived there with a weedeater. Who was the smart one? Maybe the old-timer.

I have gotten a survey on every land or home purchase since then. Worth the peace of mind to me.

:laughing:

 

[pacerron]

Yes the write up was very interesting. With all of the hired help with harvesting is their a good profit margin? Assuming mother nature is kind.

It always amazes me how much money is tied into harvesting farm products.

Later,
Dan

Robert...
I would still like to know your method for controlling mold with such a lush canopy of leaves over the grapes. We Cut ours way back and still get mold as the summer progresses.
Ron

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Robert...
I would still like to know your method for controlling mold with such a lush canopy of leaves over the grapes. We Cut ours way back and still get mold as the summer progresses.
Ron

Are you positive its just a normal mold and not an actual disease?

 

[pacerron]

Are you positive its just a normal mold and not an actual disease?

Robert,
I just checked with my wife, who takes care of them, spraying and trimming.
She says they do fine until June or so when it usually gets rainy and wet around here for a period. Then the grapes begin to turn black and shrivel up.
A lot of them fall off. She has tried cutting the canopy way back this year as she read somewhere that the grapes were being shaded too much by the leaves. That is certainly wrong after looking at your great looking vines.

Our vines are Concord. We planted them about 15 years ago. The soil is primarily clay. The trellis runs north to south and we live on top of a hill so they get plenty of wind and sunshine. She trims them way back just as you described in your write up.
The supports are vertical wooden locust posts and high tensile fence wires for the 2 horizontals. We do get some grapes in the fall but not near as many as dry up or are pulled off by the white tail deer that roam this area.
I included a picture of what they look like now in your thread a few days ago.
We would appreciate any ideas you have as to the problem and solution.
Ron

 

[zonta223]

Robert,
I just checked with my wife, who takes care of them, spraying and trimming.
Ron

Can you describe your spraying plan........what chemicals when?

 

[pacerron]

Can you describe your spraying plan........what chemicals when?

She says she uses "Daconil"
First spray when the grapes first show.
Repeates every two weeks till the middle of July.
If they start turning black she gives up.

Fertalizer 12-12-12

 

[Chiriqui]

You sound like a nice guy. From your description I gather that they are not nice people. Why worry about it? Why spend time and money on their problem. Do what you're gonna do and forget about them. Of course, you don't want to inflict injury on them either. Grow your grapes and make some mighty fine wine.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

She says she uses "Daconil"
First spray when the grapes first show.
Repeates every two weeks till the middle of July.
If they start turning black she gives up.

Fertalizer 12-12-12

It sounds like black rot. I'm not familiar with daconil but elite 45df works well for me. I rotate by sprays though to help prevent resistance. I don't have a common set of sprays I use every year as each year is different depending on the weather. Rainy days are ideal for disease like black rot and phomopsis. I start my sprays at 1-3" shoot growth to prevent phomopsis and generally end up spraying every 10-14 days.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

You sound like a nice guy. From your description I gather that they are not nice people. Why worry about it? Why spend time and money on their problem. Do what you're gonna do and forget about them. Of course, you don't want to inflict injury on them either. Grow your grapes and make some mighty fine wine.

I don't make or even drink wine. I'm more of a juice guy.

 

[Jstpssng]

Thanks for the description of your operation, it was an interesting read. I was curious, what do you use for herbicides that doesn't also kill the grapevines? It sonded like you're doing a foliar app? Are you targeting mostly monocots, or using something specific to annuals?

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Thanks for the description of your operation, it was an interesting read. I was curious, what do you use for herbicides that doesn't also kill the grapevines? It sonded like you're doing a foliar app? Are you targeting mostly monocots, or using something specific to annuals?

Before the buds pop and leaf out I use roundup. If the leafs are out i change to gramoxone and aim. Aim will burn the suckers off without any uptake into the vine. A lot of guys on gravel ground use solocam as a pre-emergent.

 

[pacerron]

It sounds like black rot. I'm not familiar with daconil but elite 45df works well for me. I rotate by sprays though to help prevent resistance. I don't have a common set of sprays I use every year as each year is different depending on the weather. Rainy days are ideal for disease like black rot and phomopsis. I start my sprays at 1-3" shoot growth to prevent phomopsis and generally end up spraying every 10-14 days.

Robert,
Thanks alot. The leaves don't look as in this bulletin but the grapes sure do.

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/pdf/HYG_3004_08.pdf

Probably too late for this year as the spray she has been using doesn't work.
We will get some of the other products and alternate their use as you suggest.
Ron