Dented cross member on new Kubota L5740

[jpaeye]

Have had my brand new tractor for one month and it has been great. I was moving patio/ outside furniture (certainly nothing taxing) with the FEL and pallet forks yesterday. Later in the day I then noticed a dent in the center of the crossmember where this crossmember had obviously contacted the front end weights hanging off the grille guard. This crossmember carries the hydraulic lines which are now bent as well. The dent is probably 2-3" deep.

It is fully serviceable but I am just a little bummed that a tractor one month old and only 5 hours on the meter has a dent this deep through no misuse of my own. Am I wrong in wanting this repaired? Would I be expecting too much. Obviously the weights interfere with loader travel and I will be removing the weights so this does not happen again.

 

[TripleR]

Did you put the weights on or did your dealer? My dealer warned me they would interfere with our FEL, so I did not get any weights.

 

[jpaeye]

Thanks for the reply TripleR. I did not put the weights on it, the dealer did. When I picked up the tractor they stated that they were giving me back $100 because the weights would not work with the particular bracket they ordered, and they hung them off the grille guard. At no point did they warn me of them interfering with loader operation. Somewhat hard to believe Kubota would make them as such.

Had I only known they would not have even been a thought.

 

[Bluegill2]

I wouldn't run front weights with a loader. The loader itself is more than enough weight on the front.

Since the dealer put em on, they should fix your tractor.

 

[TripleR]

I agree with Bluegill2, since they put them on and didn't warn you of interference issues, any repairs should be on them.

Also I agree no need to run weights in conjunction with the FEL. I am not strong enough to be lifting weights around, so I didn't get any for our tractors. On our hills, they would be handy for counter weight, but I just put the FEL on instead. Mowing on flat land, I don't need any counter weight without the FEL.

 

[rambler]

It would be counter productive to have front weights _and_ a loader on the tractor at the same time. The front end has plenty of weight on it with the loader, or even just the loader brackets add a lot without the loader.

If you tend to use the tractor without the loader a lot (that is rare, despite initial intentions, most folk don't remove the loader very often...) you might need the weights but really I'd throw them off and probably never touch them again unless you take the loader off & you have something heavy on the 3pt.

Perhaps you could make a nice bracket for your 3pt and hang them on the rear end to help with the loader.

--->Paul

 

[crazyal]

I would remove them before doing anymore damage and call the dealer. If they put them on then they are at fault. I guess you get to find out how good of a dealer you have.

 

[MHarryE]

My loader manual says Important - do not use any additional front weight with the loader. I believe that is why the loader front guard and the bumper that holds the front weights are not compatible.

 

[kuboman]

Seems a little strange it took a month to bend the cross member or did it take you that long to notice.:confused2:
Using front weights with a loader is a new one

 

[newbury]

Is this "no front weights with loader" L5740 specific? Or big CUT specific?

I'm wondering because my dealer put front weights on my B7610 when he added the Woods BH70X.

They are not enough for the backhoe, I often put more weight in the FEL. But should I take them off when not using the BH?

 

[aczlan]

Is this "no front weights with loader" L5740 specific? Or big CUT specific?

It is L5740 specific. As long as your loader clears the weights you should be fine.

Aaron Z

 

[art]

Is this "no front weights with loader" L5740 specific? Or big CUT specific?

I'm wondering because my dealer put front weights on my B7610 when he added the Woods BH70X.

They are not enough for the backhoe, I often put more weight in the FEL. But should I take them off when not using the BH?

I'd say that that is to much hoe for the tractor! Got to love the after market world!

 

[jpaeye]

Making the call to the dealer today, and you are correct. We will find out how good of a dealer he is.

I probably had bent the cross member minimally at first, but was moving patio furniture around the other day, facing the front end of the tractor downhill, which likely made the travel of the loader even greater.

Wish me luck.

 

[jpaeye]

Just finished talking with the salesman at my dealership about the issue and they will be fixing the tractor. He stated this is "obviously on us since we put the weights on it." Will be sending the pictures tonight and they will come up with a plan for repair or replacement.

Thanks to all for your support and advice. I really love this forum and all those who contribute.

 

[rambler]

Is this "no front weights with loader" L5740 specific? Or big CUT specific?

I'm wondering because my dealer put front weights on my B7610 when he added the Woods BH70X.

They are not enough for the backhoe, I often put more weight in the FEL. But should I take them off when not using the BH?

In general, there is no need for front weights with a loader attached, that is conter-productive. There may not be a rule or law about it for any specific model, but - it just doesn't make sense, the loader tends to overload the front end anyhow, why add more weights?

If you have a backhoe that is too heavy for your tractor with a loader on with front wieghts on as well, I would agree that you got a mis-match of backhoe & tractor, the hoe is too big for your tractor.

There can be reasons and needs & configurations where front wieghts are needed wityh a loader on, I'm no expert. But for front loader work, it just doesn't really make sense for 95% of the time?

--->Paul

 

[sixdogs]

Just finished talking with the salesman at my dealership about the issue and they will be fixing the tractor. He stated this is "obviously on us since we put the weights on it." Will be sending the pictures tonight and they will come up with a plan for repair or replacement.

Thanks to all for your support and advice. I really love this forum and all those who contribute.

Now that sounds like a good dealer.

 

[aczlan]

Just finished talking with the salesman at my dealership about the issue and they will be fixing the tractor. He stated this is "obviously on us since we put the weights on it." Will be sending the pictures tonight and they will come up with a plan for repair or replacement.
Thanks to all for your support and advice. I really love this forum and all those who contribute.

Post their name when the situation is resolved so that anyone in the area can buy from them. Sounds like a good dealer.

Aaron Z

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

The Woods 70x front weights on the B-series mouting are a special low profile design to it with the loader. As a rule, front weights are never compatible with loaders... nor is there really a reason to use them.

 

[SPYDERLK]

It would be counter productive to have front weights _and_ a loader on the tractor at the same time. The front end has plenty of weight on it with the loader, or even just the loader brackets add a lot without the loader.

If you tend to use the tractor without the loader a lot (that is rare, despite initial intentions, most folk don't remove the loader very often...) you might need the weights but really I'd throw them off and probably never touch them again unless you take the loader off & you have something heavy on the 3pt.

Perhaps you could make a nice bracket for your 3pt and hang them on the rear end to help with the loader.

--->Paul

Front weight helps you to dig well with the loader. I have my fronts filled for about 400# worth. I really notice when I get too much counterweight because theres not enuf weight on the front for good ground penetration.
larry

 

[magicheater]

Front weight helps you to dig well with the loader. I have my fronts filled for about 400# worth. I really notice when I get too much counterweight because theres not enuf weight on the front for good ground penetration.
larry

Larry, With the way you have your Mahindra outfitted I would think you would be the imputes for "Mahindra Max"!