The gully to pond project

[jinman]

You're right, Brandi. This storm and rain were perfect to show me where I need to work and yet not do damage. Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket.

 

[pacerron]

I dug a temporary trench across the area behind the first dam. It's shown in red in the 1st photo below. That will get an 18" culvert. All this stuff is just a warmup for that B-I-G project. I just laugh when folks ask me how I keep busy in retirement.:cool2:

Jim,
Do you put a 90 on the end of the culvert and a vertical riser to control the water depth?
We do that up here, north of the Mason-Dixon Line, to keep the frozen ice in the winter from raising the pipe and causing a disasterous leak.
Ron

 

[RDrancher]

Soooo...how in the world did I miss this thread?

Now I can come home from work and read about my favorite thing...WORK!

Looks good Jim!

 

[jinman]

Jim,
Do you put a 90 on the end of the culvert and a vertical riser to control the water depth?
We do that up here, north of the Mason-Dixon Line, to keep the frozen ice in the winter from raising the pipe and causing a disasterous leak.
Ron

Just another reason to live in Paradise. The only people worrying about such things here are the refugees from north of the Mason-Dixon line who have not learned we don't have to worry about frost heave.

 

[pacerron]

Just another reason to live in Paradise. The only people worrying about such things here are the refugees from north of the Mason-Dixon line who have not learned we don't have to worry about frost heave.

Jim,
That's great. I've got pics of my pond 20 years ago that show what happens here from ice heave.
At least we don't have all the poisonous snakes and other prehistoric reptiles
you live with down there.
I animated your anchor because you are really rockin on the pond project now.
Good job on pond to make use of the runoff.
Ron

 

[jinman]

I animated your anchor because you are really rockin on the pond project now.
Ron

But it's Rockin' Anchor Ranch, not Rockin' Logo Ranch. Please don't try. The rocker under the Anchor is sufficient.

 

[Western]

Just another reason to live in Paradise. The only people worrying about such things here are the refugees from north of the Mason-Dixon line who have not learned we don't have to worry about frost heave.

Jim, Whats "frost heave" ??? Is that similar to an Ice cream headache

Looks like the weather is going in your favor for a few days:thumbsup:

 

[pacerron]

But it's Rockin' Anchor Ranch, not Rockin' Logo Ranch. Please don't try. The rocker under the Anchor is sufficient.

Not sure what you mean.. I made the animation from saving a copy of your stamp on this forum as a transparent ( for white) .gif and layering it with a couple copies turned at 40 degree increments. The wording is exactly the same and was part of your stamp.

Good weather here today so no time for computer play. Lunch is over..

 

[RDrancher]

Jim, Whats "frost heave" ??? Is that similar to an Ice cream headache :

I think its like when the frost gets your tomato plants and it makes you want to throw up...best that I can figure.

 

[pacerron]

I think its like when the frost gets your tomato plants and it makes you want to throw up...best that I can figure.

That's about it... I almost threw up from my own stupidity for putting a pipe straight through without a vertical riser. My anger with myself that day could melt any ice crean Dennis could make...
Freeze Heave 101.

 

[ksshooter]

Jim, You certainly have vision, patience and a great work ethic. I agree with the comment regarding getting the government involved. Best to do it on your own. Your projects looks great and as soon as you can get grass growing it will also look beautiful! Congratulations! Yeah, I know it isn't over, but it still deserves a bit Congrats :thumbsup: And thanks again for the help on my rear remote project. Waiting for valve to arrive .

 

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Pacerron: it's amazing the power water has whether it be running or freezing.

 

[RDrancher]

That's about it... I almost threw up from my own stupidity for putting a pipe straight through without a vertical riser. My anger with myself that day could melt any ice crean Dennis could make...
Freeze Heave 101.

Wow, that sure made a mess of things!

 

[beppington]

That's about it... I almost threw up from my own stupidity for putting a pipe straight through without a vertical riser. My anger with myself that day could melt any ice crean Dennis could make...
Freeze Heave 101.

I don't understand how a vertical riser would've helped.

It looks like water just somehow found its way around your spillway pipe ... or the pipe had a leak.

What am I missing?

 

[jinman]

Yesterday was pi day (3.14). How were your circular functions?

Thanks everyone for the words of encouragement. I do have a long ways to go, but things are lookin' up. I got my culverts delivered yesterday and was totally surprised that they ended up being about $150 less than I had thought.

I also finally took TxDon's suggestion and made a "clay highway" across my gullies so I don't have to drive on the road. As long as I don't get a big rain soon, I'll be okay. I may stick a couple of 12" culverts in them temporarily so they don't wash out. It's supposed to rain again in about a week. I spent most of the day putting in this road. The gullies just inhale material and the slopes are far more severe/steep than the photo can show. The good thing is it halves my time for carrying a load. Another benefit is I don't have to watch/worry about traffic.

 

[jinman]

Folks, I think the type of overflow Ron is talking about is shown in my simple drawing. The standard overflow pipe is put into the dam at exactly the water depth desired like the black outline in my photo. The right angle type riser overflow is shown in pink. Both achieve the same overflow level, but the riser type places the pipe well below the freeze line and prevents frost heave as Ron demonstrated in his photos. Around here, anything down 12"-18" is well below the frost line and our water bodies rarely freeze even an inch thick.

 

[Western]

That's about it... I almost threw up from my own stupidity for putting a pipe straight through without a vertical riser. My anger with myself that day could melt any ice crean Dennis could make...
Freeze Heave 101.

I don't understand how a vertical riser would've helped.

It looks like water just somehow found its way around your spillway pipe ... or the pipe had a leak.

What am I missing?

I'm with Bep on this one??? Seems with the riser, and no overflow, the pipe would be nearly empty? If it's at overflow stage the water would be running. Even if the water froze at the inlet, wouldn't it drain the water below grade ?

I've seen the same thing here (Texas) and it is usually when water found it's way around the pipe and eroded. If frost heave was a major concern, i think I'd make a spillway like Jaypa's doing, no pipe.

 

[beppington]

Folks, I think the type of overflow Ron is talking about is shown in my simple drawing. The standard overflow pipe is put into the dam at exactly the water depth desired like the black outline in my photo. The right angle type riser overflow is shown in pink. Both achieve the same overflow level, but the riser type places the pipe well below the freeze line and prevents frost heave as Ron demonstrated in his photos. Around here, anything down 12"-18" is well below the frost line and our water bodies rarely freeze even an inch thick.

Ah!! I get it! Thanks!

Hard for a FL boy to understand issues involving frozen ground! :laughing:

 

[beppington]

I'm with Bep on this one??? Seems with the riser, and no overflow, the pipe would be nearly empty? If it's at overflow stage the water would be running. Even if the water froze at the inlet, wouldn't it drain the water below grade ?

I've seen the same thing here (Texas) and it is usually when water found it's way around the pipe and eroded. If frost heave was a major concern, i think I'd make a spillway like Jaypa's doing, no pipe.

I'll take a guess that his pond surface froze, & of course expanded, which pushed his spillway pipe around enough to loosen the soil around it, & then water below the ice layer started washing the dirt from around the pipe ? ... & then all heck breaks loose: No fix can be done until the water is done washing out.

 

[txdon]

The deep gully land looks much more usable also. When you are through with the business function of the road it looks like it could be the beginning of a good trail bicycle racing course.:thumbsup:

Jim my bluebonnet is up and blooming. Yes you read that right bluebonnet, no - s, one, singular.