New (To Me) Drill Press

[JB4310]

Somebody must of put that high quality chuck on there as an upgrade,
an import would not of had that when it came over.

I have not had any problem with my chuck, but I'd be happier with the jacobs

JB

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Somebody must of put that high quality chuck on there as an upgrade,
an import would not of had that when it came over.

I have not had any problem with my chuck, but I'd be happier with the jacobs

JB

When I was looking for info on mine I found a handful of this model for sale on auction sites and used tool dealer sites. Most of what I found were sold without the chuck. I wonder if they came standard like that.

This chuck is definately nice. It feels very solid.

 

[JB4310]

When I was looking for info on mine I found a handful of this model for sale on auction sites and used tool dealer sites. Most of what I found were sold without the chuck. I wonder if they came standard like that.

This chuck is definately nice. It feels very solid.

Now that I know it is interchangeable, I'm going to keep an eye out, I work for alot of estates that had machinists in the families, and I'm often there just before they clean out the basement for selling the house. I have free choice of many items and have found some decent stuff, especially along the machinist line.

JB

 

[Iplayfarmer]

So, I got to spend some quality time with my drill press last night, and I am VERY happy with the purchase. My only complaint is that this drill press is much taller than the last one. I have to stand on a stool to see the belts, etc. I may eventually build a stand for it that will drop it down a foot or so.

At one point last night I had the drill press in about 6 pieces on the bench as I gave it some detailed TLC. I used a lot of WD40 to clean and lubricate the pieces. I think I'll probably go back in a month or so and re-clean it to get the WD40 off and try to use some kind of dry lubricant to keep the grime to a minimum. There were a few spots where I decided to use some molybdenum grease (the rods that the motor slides on to adjust the belt tension). The end result is a much quieter drill press that moves smoothly.

I've included a few pictures of 3/4" holes I drilled in 7/16" steel. I drilled a 1/4" pilot hole and then went straight to the 3/4" bit. The belts kept slipping for the hole in the first picture. It was still a TON better than what I had before. I tightened the belts and put some belt dressing on. Then I drilled the second hole. Note the long, pretty shavings that came off for the second hole. That's what I'm looking for. I still got a little belt slippage, but not like I had on the first hole.

Does anyone have other suggestions for preventing belt slippage? Do I need to get new belts or different belts?

 

[JB4310]

Just saw a little drill press vise on our local craigslist.
I have one and it is a necessity IMO, with the vice holding the part safely, i leave the table loose to move around, makes it easy to get the center of whatever I'm drilling.

compond vise for drill press or miller

I have the moving bridgeport type thing under the vise in this picture but never tried it yet, just use the vise.

JB

 

[Baby Grand]

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Thanks to all who posted brand names of your similar machines. I may need to cross reference one of those machines to get parts. I'm pretty sure I'll need a recoil spring. I'm guessing that Baby Grand's Black & Decker will be the easiest to find. Baby Grand, what is the model number of your drill press?

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Mine is a B&D 12 speed, cat# 1782.
Here's the parts list:

View attachment BD Drill Press.pdf

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Mine is a B&D 12 speed, cat# 1782.
Here's the parts list:

View attachment 238677

Many thanks.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Minor setback... Today when I flip the motor switch the motor sits and hums. If I start the spindle turning by hand it keeps going. I'm thinking start capacitor.

How specific are these start capacitors? Mine is spec'd as a 150uF 125VAC Electrolytic Capacitor for Motor Starting. Can I vary from that 150uF? If I get a 250VAC one is that good enough?

Sorry about the blurry picture. The camera must have been focusing on the background.

 

[k0ua]

Minor setback... Today when I flip the motor switch the motor sits and hums. If I start the spindle turning by hand it keeps going. I'm thinking start capacitor.

How specific are these start capacitors? Mine is spec'd as a 150uF 125VAC Electrolytic Capacitor for Motor Starting. Can I vary from that 150uF? If I get a 250VAC one is that good enough?

Sorry about the blurry picture. The camera must have been focusing on the background.

Yes a 250 volt rating is fine, it is just rated for a higher voltage, the 150 Microfarad is the "capacitance" of the capacitor, I doubt it is an electrolytic tho, most likely not. Do not put an 150uf 250 volt electrolytic that is polarized (designed for DC voltage, and has a + and - connection) on it as it will go bang pretty quick. Make sure that 250volt rating is for AC..this should be a cap you buy that is designed for motor starting. You can also test the existing cap with an analog ohm meter to get an idea if it is bad or not. This take some experience, but basically put it on the rx100 scale, and put the leads on the terminals, it may kick the meter but return to an open condition pretty quick. If it shows a constant resistance, it is defective. then reverse the leads it should kick the meter again towards 0 ohms and rapidly fall back towards infinity. repeat procedure a couple of time. It wont kick to 0 with 150Uf, but should head that direction rapidly by reversing the leads, as the ohmmeter charges the cap from its internal power. good luck.

James K0UA

 

[Iplayfarmer]

...I doubt it is an electrolytic tho,

It says electrolytic right on the capacitor. What does that even mean? Are there better capacitors that would give me better performance out of my motor?

Thanks for the heads up on DC vs. AC. I'll be sure to get an AC capacitor. Any ideas of a good online source?
Everything I've seen in a few minutes of looking has been in Taiwan or Hong Kong.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

I'm in luck. I called the motor guy that deals parts to us at work. He had the right capacitor on the shelf for 35% less than any online price I saw, and he delivered it right to my desk.

I'll put it in this weekend after the holiday festivities and be back to drilling holes. I have yet to do anything useful with this drill press. To date I've just been playing around drilling holes in scrap. I think my first project will be to finish building a receiver tube system for mounting my grinders on my work bench.

 

[bearcreek paul]

It won't hurt to change the belt if it's worn,but that belt slipping is what keeps those old machines going.That is their way of telling you to take it easier.

 

[k0ua]

It says electrolytic right on the capacitor. What does that even mean? Are there better capacitors that would give me better performance out of my motor?

Thanks for the heads up on DC vs. AC. I'll be sure to get an AC capacitor. Any ideas of a good online source?
Everything I've seen in a few minutes of looking has been in Taiwan or Hong Kong.

Most electolytic caps are polarized,(+ -) and will go boom if you put 125volts AC on them. However there are non polarized Electorlytics.
You need a motor start cap, made for that purpose. I go to a local industrial supply house for them. Johnstone industrial, or Harry Cooper. No the cap is to kick the motor over upon starting and is taken out of the circuit when the motor reaches speed.

maybe this one if you want to mail order, but I would look locally.


PSU12465 Cornell Dubilier Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Snap In

Electrolytic refers to the "goo" inside between the aluminum foil plates inside the can. it is some kind of liquid paste of just what I dont know.

James K0UA

 

[k0ua]

Whoops, I did not see your last post , where you got the cap locally at a good price.. good deal, you will be back in business.

James K0UA

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Good news!! I sold the smaller drill press for the same price I paid for this bigger one.

Bad News!! I replaced the start capacitor and that didn't fix the problem. Any advice? Do I have to charge the capacitor or something before it will work?

The symptoms are as follows... The motor sits and hums a little when I flip the switch. If I give the spindle a spin, the motor fires up and runs fine.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Does it take any force to make it start in like it feels locked up before you get it to start spinning?

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Bad News!! I replaced the start capacitor and that didn't fix the problem. Any advice?

Nevermind. I fixed it. The little mechanism that disengages the capacitor was stuck disengaged. I have a picture of the mechanism in the first picture. I wiggled the mechanism and exercised it a few times, and it seems to be working fine now.

This likely means that the original capacitor never was bad, but for $6.50, I'll just keep it as a spare. I already changed the ends on the wires to fit the new capacitor (second picture).

Drilled a 5/8" hole in a single pass without a pilot. I LOVE THIS DRILL PRESS!! :thumbsup:

It was the first productive hole I've drilled with this drill press. I'm building the mounts for my grinders so that I can sharpen drill bits better (among other things).

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Great. That is one horse of a drill press.:thumbsup:

 

[deereman75]

very nice. As much as I love my old delta, I would only drill up to 1/2 inch with it. It is also only a 14 inch one, it would be real nice to have a big one like yours.:thumbsup:

 

[Brad_Blazer]

It won't hurt to change the belt if it's worn,but that belt slipping is what keeps those old machines going.That is their way of telling you to take it easier.

A few years ago I pulled a drill press out of a dumpster & brought it home only to find the cast iron spindle carrier sleeve was broken. I found a complete head from a HF drill press at a junk reseller for $40. When I brought that home I found out the spindle spline was twisted apparently from snubbing it with the belts too tight. Luckily I was able to make the spindle from the old head fit.

It's amazing how just about every project requires the use of a drill press.