Bumper Vs. Gooseneck Payloads

[cowski]

with my gooseneck trailer and 1 ton truck,i haul 12 2000 pound bales of hay.no way i would try it with a bumper pull on a 1 ton truck.

 

[ovrszd]

Sorry, but your sarcasm gets you nothing but laughs from me. Unlike you, I'll still respectfully disagree with you and not be a laughable loon who cannot see the forrest for the trees. Now that I've been plenty nice, I'll just be blunt; you're flat wrong. :thumbsup:

With that statement you just made my point Dargo. YOU are the one that can't hit a gooseneck ball even when using a camera, not me. I hit the gn ball every time. I hit the bp ball 80% of the time. Both without cameras.

Again, you are saying you know more about my situation than I do. You must be "special". :confused2:

 

[Dargo]

With that statement you just made my point Dargo. YOU are the one that can't hit a gooseneck ball even when using a camera, not me. I hit the gn ball every time. I hit the bp ball 80% of the time. Both without cameras.

Again, you are saying you know more about my situation than I do. You must be "special". :confused2:

You may want to loan your "X-Ray vision" to every single other member here who doesn't drive the, now very rare, regular cab pickup. :laughing: We all await to hear how you see through the back seat, back of the cab, and front of the bed in a crew cab pickup.... If you can't see through these items, your statement makes me laugh.

Hey, I was polite. You responded very rudly. I'm just letting you dig yourself a deeper hole and you're abliging. I wonder how women feel about that special X-Ray vision you claim to have?

 

[tractorboy5500]

I cant see my GN ball, but I get close enough to land it about 70% of the time, then I found a mirror to put on the up-right, now I can see it alot better, cheaper than a camera, mirror was $10, but a camera would work better on a bp, but most bp's are easy to move around anyway.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

You may want to loan your "X-Ray vision" to every single other member here who doesn't drive the, now very rare, regular cab pickup. :laughing: We all await to hear how you see through the back seat, back of the cab, and front of the bed in a crew cab pickup.... If you can't see through these items, your statement makes me laugh.

Hey, I was polite. You responded very rudly. I'm just letting you dig yourself a deeper hole and you're abliging. I wonder how women feel about that special X-Ray vision you claim to have?

Great!! Our discussion about the limitations of a half ton truck for towing has turned into a discussion of using X-ray vision to see your balls.

 

[TheTrailerGuy]

You may want to loan your "X-Ray vision" to every single other member here who doesn't drive the, now very rare, regular cab pickup. :laughing: We all await to hear how you see through the back seat, back of the cab, and front of the bed in a crew cab pickup.... If you can't see through these items, your statement makes me laugh.

Hey, I was polite. You responded very rudly. I'm just letting you dig yourself a deeper hole and you're abliging. I wonder how women feel about that special X-Ray vision you claim to have?

I don't need no darn back up camera!!!!! (Oops... i do!)

 

[AGGIE00]

Don't mean to add to or take from the argument, but I can get the gn close enough to the ball almost every time and with a gentle nudge or rocking the crap out of the railer get it to fall on the ball. It's really not that hard after you learn your trailer and how it looks in the mirror when lined up. Now my little 4wheeler trailer is a different story. Hooking it up is no problem since a jack isn't even necessary, but backing has been a challenge. Forgot it was there and did 4k worth of damage to my truck.

 

[Duffster]

The heck with a BP or GN, just give me a hay wagon. :laughing:

 

[whateg0]

... Even before I cheated and have the license bracket mount cameras on my dumptruck and 1 ton for my pintle hitch trailers, I can't ever recall not backing directly into the pintle loop first shot. ...

Wow! I guess I should be ashamed then. It takes me a couple tries almost every time. Oh, well.

Dave

 

[ovrszd]

You may want to loan your "X-Ray vision" to every single other member here who doesn't drive the, now very rare, regular cab pickup. :laughing: We all await to hear how you see through the back seat, back of the cab, and front of the bed in a crew cab pickup.... If you can't see through these items, your statement makes me laugh.

Hey, I was polite. You responded very rudly. I'm just letting you dig yourself a deeper hole and you're abliging. I wonder how women feel about that special X-Ray vision you claim to have?

You are digging so fast I can't keep up with you Dargo. I never said I had a regular cab pickup. I actually have an extended cab truck and by simply putting my right hand on the cushion of the rear seat and looking over my right shoulder I look straight at my gn ball.

Again your arrogance leads you down the path of more untrue statements. I was never rude to you, I simply pointed out your personality in this matter. And it continues. You still think you know more about my situation than I do. Amazing...... :laughing:

 

[ovrszd]

I don't need no darn back up camera!!!!! (Oops... i do!)

I don't worry about backing into my tailgate. What I worry about is being stupid enough to drive away from the trailer with it up.....

 

[Dargo]

Oh, now I get it. Your name on here applies to your neck and arrogance. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: When someone says they "respectfully disagree with you" and you have a complete mental breakdown and become rude and show your ignorance, you deserve all the laughs we are getting at your expense. It must be a sight to see you hooking up your S10 to a GN trailer! :laughing: Any comfortable extended cab or crew cab pickup excludes seeing the GN ball unless you have X-ray vision or physical deformities. Let's see a picture of your 18" neck. Oh, wait, don't tell me; you don't have a camera... :laughing: Keep digging!

Sorry to be a bit off track, but when someone comes on strong and is verbally abusive and rude, they receive posts in kind. With most newer extended cab pickups (where the rear passengers don't have to be under 4' tall) and crew cab pickup trucks, the laws of physics would have to be suspended for our friend for him to do as he claims. Taking his rude posts aside, after almost 35 years of jockying trailers around I can tell you for a fact that GN trailers are better for jack-knifing into tight parking spots, and making U turns in a tight area. Otherwise, pintle hitch trailers just work better. The OP was asking about payloads. Go around to nearly any construction company and you'll see they mostly utilize pintle hitch trailers. If you travel off road across bumps and dips a pintle hitch will greatly reduce the chances of the hitch coming off the ball. For the most part, a ball trailer relies on tongue weight to stay attached. A pintle hitch is like a chain link and I've yet to hear of any coming off when attached properly to the tow vehicle.

You are digging so fast I can't keep up with you Dargo. I never said I had a regular cab pickup. I actually have an extended cab truck and by simply putting my right hand on the cushion of the rear seat and looking over my right shoulder I look straight at my gn ball.

Again your arrogance leads you down the path of more untrue statements. I was never rude to you, I simply pointed out your personality in this matter. And it continues. You still think you know more about my situation than I do. Amazing...... :laughing:

 

[ovrszd]

Oh, now I get it. Your name on here applies to your neck and arrogance. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: When someone says they "respectfully disagree with you" and you have a complete mental breakdown and become rude and show your ignorance, you deserve all the laughs we are getting at your expense. It must be a sight to see you hooking up your S10 to a GN trailer! :laughing: Any comfortable extended cab or crew cab pickup excludes seeing the GN ball unless you have X-ray vision or physical deformities. Let's see a picture of your 18" neck. Oh, wait, don't tell me; you don't have a camera... :laughing: Keep digging!

Sorry to be a bit off track, but when someone comes on strong and is verbally abusive and rude, they receive posts in kind. With most newer extended cab pickups (where the rear passengers don't have to be under 4' tall) and crew cab pickup trucks, the laws of physics would have to be suspended for our friend for him to do as he claims. Taking his rude posts aside, after almost 35 years of jockying trailers around I can tell you for a fact that GN trailers are better for jack-knifing into tight parking spots, and making U turns in a tight area. Otherwise, pintle hitch trailers just work better. The OP was asking about payloads. Go around to nearly any construction company and you'll see they mostly utilize pintle hitch trailers. If you travel off road across bumps and dips a pintle hitch will greatly reduce the chances of the hitch coming off the ball. For the most part, a ball trailer relies on tongue weight to stay attached. A pintle hitch is like a chain link and I've yet to hear of any coming off when attached properly to the tow vehicle.

I'm always up for a friendly wager Dargo.

I'll bet you $3,000 I can see my gn ball while in the driver's seat of my truck.

A straight forward bet that can easily be verified by any unbiased observer. You appear to be in Southern Indiana. I'm in NW Missouri. I'll drive to you.

I'll have $3,000 cash, you do the same. We'll hand it to the observer to hold until verification.

We might even be able to find a member on this site to serve as the observer.

How about it Dargo??? We can settle this very easily. I'm currently on the road but will be home Saturday afternoon. I could be at your location on Sunday. We can set this up right now. I await your response.

 

[Duffster]

I'm always up for a friendly wager Dargo.

I'll bet you $3,000 I can see my gn ball while in the driver's seat of my truck.

A straight forward bet that can easily be verified by any unbiased observer. You appear to be in Southern Indiana. I'm in NW Missouri. I'll drive to you.

I'll have $3,000 cash, you do the same. We'll hand it to the observer to hold until verification.

We might even be able to find a member on this site to serve as the observer.

How about it Dargo??? We can settle this very easily. I'm currently on the road but will be home Saturday afternoon. I could be at your location on Sunday. We can set this up right now. I await your response.

I am up for a road trip.

Can we have a backing contest while we are at it?

 

[ovrszd]

I am up for a road trip.

Can we have a backing contest while we are at it?

I brag to my wife all the time about how much better I can back a trailer than her. But then she had never pulled a trailer til we got together, so that ain't sayin much!!

My backing contest days go back to high school FFA, tractor rodeos. :thumbsup:

 

[Iplayfarmer]

The heck with a BP or GN, just give me a hay wagon. :laughing:

Yeah, let's talk about ease of maneuverability of a hay wagon. :laughing:

I can't back a hay wagon to save my life.

 

[ovrszd]

Yeah, let's talk about ease of maneuverability of a hay wagon. :laughing:

I can't back a hay wagon to save my life.

Years ago I had just returned from Vietnam and got hired on at a trucking firm. I was the dock hostler. My job was to hook/unhook trucks and trailers and spot them at the dock. I also got them ready for the over road drivers to pull. I grew up on a farm and could back a hay wagon pretty good. Several times I tried to back a set of tandem over road trailers. It was always disastrous. I'd think I had it going on and then suddenly all I'd see in the mirrors were corners of trailers poking every which way.

 

[Duffster]

Years ago I had just returned from Vietnam and got hired on at a trucking firm. I was the dock hostler. My job was to hook/unhook trucks and trailers and spot them at the dock. I also got them ready for the over road drivers to pull. I grew up on a farm and could back a hay wagon pretty good. Several times I tried to back a set of tandem over road trailers. It was always disastrous. I'd think I had it going on and then suddenly all I'd see in the mirrors were corners of trailers poking every which way.

Tandem semi trailer would be like hooking a hay wagon behind a GN/5th trailer.

I can back a hay wagon OK but I have never tried behind a trailer.:laughing:

Anymore if we are backing wagons in the shed, and want to get them tight, we use the skidloader. Very maneuverable that way. :thumbsup:

 

[ovrszd]

Anymore if we are backing wagons in the shed, and want to get the tight, we use the skidloader. Very maneuverable that way. :thumbsup:

Yep, as a kid we had Ford tractors. Always had a hitch on the front. you can back anything that way!!! Dad always said work smart, not hard.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Yeah, let's talk about ease of maneuverability of a hay wagon. :laughing:

I can't back a hay wagon to save my life.

I am with you. I had my Hay Wagon so messed up I unhitched it from the tractor and hooked a chain to the rear axle to pull it in place while my buddy steered the tongue.

Chris