Trailer sprayer help

[PhoneFarmer]

I just got a trailer sprayer to help with some weed controlling. Evidently the old hat rack above my shoulders doesn't work like it used to. I can't seem to get the application instructions with the weed control chemicals to jive with the chart for the sprayer. I am planning on using Anime 400 weed chemical.
If anybody is spraying could you give your mixture rate and groundspeed and the times of year when you spray.
Also, if your using a different chemical I would be open to suggestions.
Thanks Phillip

p s: dandelions are one of my main problems

 

[ray66v]

I spray Amine 400 at 1/2 oz per gallon, 60 psi on the boom, and about 1/2 mph.

If you have clover, Trimec is a better product.

 

[PhoneFarmer]

Thanks Ray, 1/2 per gallon is roughly what i figured but wasn't sure of the speed.
When I raise the psi above about 30 or 35, it seems to just make a mist cloud and kind of float. Is that normal?
Not much clover if any, just those stupid yellow things everywhere.
Thanks again, Phillip

 

[ray66v]

When I raise the psi above about 30 or 35, it seems to just make a mist cloud and kind of float. Is that normal?

Not on mine.

All you need to do, is set your rig to get the weeds wet. No matter how you do it, they will die.

If you have to use a lower pressure to avoid mist, I would. Just find a speed that allows a nice wetting of the weeds.

Caution should be used if it is hot, and your lawn is stressed.

Amine 400 is very effective on "The yellow things".

 

[Wooddust]

Every answer you get is by definition wrong unless you know what your rate of spray per acre is. You need to make sure you have all the same nozzles then calibrate the sprayer before you go to mixing chemicals.

 

[forester2]

Wooddust is right on the money. Ray is also corrrect in regards to using Trimec for broader range control.

 

[ray66v]

Every answer you get is by definition wrong unless you know what your rate of spray per acre is. You need to make sure you have all the same nozzles then calibrate the sprayer before you go to mixing chemicals.

Don't tell my lawn that.

 

[teg]

Ideally, You need to find a pressure that gives good coverage at a certain speed - you don't need to soak the grass. Then you catch how much liquid is coming out over a certain distant. With this you can calculate how much Gallons per acre your sprayer is putting out. This will let you mix the tank properly...

ray66v, you may have gotten it correct but are you sure you are not wasting money and putting out too much chemical??? If you are only spraying an acre or two and you miss the mark by 50% it's not a costly mistake... do it over 2000 acres and the cost adds up.

If you want, just ask, and I'll go over the math... it's my job... :confused2:

PS. Wife is from Signal Mountain...

 

[ray66v]

ray66v, you may have gotten it correct but are you sure you are not wasting money and putting out too much chemical??? If you are only spraying an acre or two and you miss the mark by 50% it's not a costly mistake...

I take care of 3 lawns, each around 4 acres.

Being of average intelligence, I noticed that when I don't put enough chemical on, the weeds didn't die.

So, It did not take me long to realize how wet I need to get them, for an effective kill.

Just like exactly how much lawn fertilizer I need to apply, how much flour to put in my grandmothers cookie recipe, and when to pick a watermelon. At my house these are determined by experience.

Even when I did the math with the sprayer, I still need to estimate how fast I need to drive, until I got the target application per acre rate.

Since I was estimating anyway, it's just easier for me, to turn on the sprayer, and drive at a speed that allows the weeds to get wet, for the present conditions.

I would be willing to bet that I am not over by 50%, I am too impatient to drive that slow. Even if I was, it will not amount to enough money to lose sleep over in my case.

I may not be exact, but I get exactly result I want.

 

[teg]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Perfect...

 

[hawkeye08]

Some folks go by the saying,

If a little bit is good, then more is better and too much is just right.

The problem with that is, I have seen weeds die too fast, burns the tops off and then they come back. If they die slower, then the roots seems to die as well.

I like to see the weeds wet with spray, but try not to have too much... I like to spray in the mornings and when it all happens right, I see some wilting by afternoon, then a slow kill....

 

[beenthere]

I have a 30 gal sprayer and mix 1/2 oz per gal. each of Amine 400 and Ortho Weed-B-Gone concentrate. Seems to be an ideal mix (for me) for succesfully spraying lawn weeds once in the spring and again in the fall. 90 gal will cover the 5 (about) acres of my lawn.

I run about 15 psi. Higher than that gives me too much drift (neighber wiped a good band of his neighbors alfalfa with drift this spring).

Spray at a speed which is comfortable to ride and close to mowing speed. The 6' boom is across the front of the tractor and the tank is on a trailer behind (with the 12v pump).

 

[PhoneFarmer]

Thanks for all the help. I've been tied up at work this week but have been monitoring this post.
I've got my charts here. Amine says for 1000 sq ft to mix 1 oz to 4 gals water. I'll buy that. That's about what every one sounds like they use. Now for the kicker. The tip chart that came with the sprayer says at 20 psi 1 mph will give you 1.4 gallons per 1000 sq ft. if I'm reading this right. So I would have to spray at 1/4 mph to get 4 gallons on the 1000 sq ft. Is that right.
I could try to post the chart for all the mathematicians out there if needed.
Thanks.

To Teg. I'm right up the ridge on Mowbray Mtn.

 

[teg]

I've been tied up at work this week

I know what you mean... but I still let this thread slip away... Have you used the sprayer? Here are some thoughts (random as they are)...

Amine says for 1000 sq ft to mix 1 oz to 4 gals water.

If 1oz/4 gals is to cover 1000ft2... It works out to 2.7 pints/acre or 43.56 oz/acre. Mixing that with 4 gals for 1000 ft2, you are looking at 174.24 gallons per acre (gpa)!!!! which is super high... 15 to 30 is normal... would help to see the label...

The tip chart that came with the sprayer says at 20 psi 1 mph will give you 1.4 gallons per 1000 sq ft.

1.4 gallons per 1000 ft2 = 61 gpa - 1 mph is slow but if you speed up to 3 mph that would work out to be about 20 GPA (which is about right).

So I would have to spray at 1/4 mph to get 4 gallons on the 1000 sq ft. Is that right.

0.35mph (but you'll have GPA *way* up there?!?!? (this part doesn't seem right...)

I could try to post the chart for all the mathematicians out there if needed.

That would help but if you can post the brand / concentration, would be better... or if you can you find the label at this site???
Labels MSDS Home Page

Average use for Amine is about 2 pints/acre (or 0.75oz / 1000 ft2) at 3 mph, your rig should put out about 20.34 gpa so mixing 2 pint in 20 gallons sounds better... which works back out as 1.07 oz/gallon...

Of course this information is worth what you paid for it I've had a drink since math hurts my brain. :confused2:

 

[PhoneFarmer]

Yes I've used it. I mixed 1/2 oz amine to the gallon. Also put about 6 oz of the Ortho weed b gone in there. Got out the tape measure and know how to go about 2 mph +- . Ran it at 15 psi. I did the spraying close to the time of the last posts and just cut grass last weekend and no more dandelions. Thanks everyone for the advice.

Now,,,,,,, anybody know how to get rid of dallis grass?

 

[teg]

Dallisgrass Management Guidelines--UC IPM

Look under "Chemical Control" and "Established Plants in Turfgrass"

 

[PhoneFarmer]

I'll check it out. Thanks!