Pat's Quick Change question

[rpraymond]

I noticed that there is a difference between the Quick Change unit offered on this site and the one offered from Agri Supply. There is what looks to be an adjustment on the top of the unit on this site and an L braket of some sort on the one from Agri Supply. Anyone know what this is for and is it necessary. Thanks in advance.

 

[emmy71]

In thread from a couple years ago, PATG, the manufacturer himself, explained the differences between these two hitches. The one in the lower picture is the premium product which is sold at a higher price. I have this product and the bolt you see is to lock the latch in the open position. I suppose it could be adjusted but I have never had the need. The one in the top picture is a more economical product he makes to meet the demands of people wanting a better price point. This one has a fixed piece of metal to hold the latch open. Both are supposed to be the same functionally. I can vouch for the premium version to be a great product and worth every dollar. I can also vouch for their customer service being second to none. You can not go wrong purchasing his products.

Terry

 

[texasjohn]

Guess I'm blind.... both the units appear identical to me...don't see the item you are referring to. My unit is like the grey one in your photo...attachment is easy. I've found the PATS people very easy to talk to... suggest you give them a call. Bet they'd get all your questions answered.

By the way, I recommend the PATS system.

 

[niemeyjt]

Maybe this is not the place to say, but I have just removed the Pat's off my B1750.

Yes, they are a good idea on paper. My problems started when fitting it and one of the eight lateral bolts sheared - although I did still manage to get it aligned . The U bolts then kept fowling on the trailer drawbar - but again no real problem.

The mower fitted OK - albeit with the toplink on its fullest.

The chipper could not be hooked from below - so I attach it from the side like with ordinary arms - it only just fits as Pat's is larger than ordinary arms. A new top link was required. It then worked - although I need to keep loader on as tractor was very light on front now as chipper sat further back.

The rotovator was the game changer. The mounting pins on the rotovator are in rear hole on the mounting arms and the front of the arms fouled on the lugs on Pats. No problem, I thought, I will move the pins to the front. Except that added another two inches to the four inches extra of Pat's - putting the rotovator six inches further back - and the PTO shaft would not extend that much. Furthermore, I could not borrow the shaft off the mower as the rotovator shaft fitted direct to the slip-clutch.

So - new PTO shaft and clutch? new rotovator? ditch Pat's? - I am now fitting stabilisers to the B1750 - photos to follow.

My advice to prospective Pat's buyers - check all your implements (including weights) and shafts and toplinks - Pat's are good when they work, but they are heavy paperweights when they don't.

J

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Bought my first tractor 6 years ago. a BX2200 and started adding implements, a landscape rake, a boxblade and a rear scraper blade. Hated putting the implements on since I did it alone. Discovered Pat's. Became a believer in Pat's. Only thing was upper arm to short but TSC had a longer one for around $20.
Traded the BX2200 to a B7800 and bought a BX1500 so I then needed another set of QA's but not willing to pay that much for another set of Pat's so bought a $90 set of cast iron ones off ebay, not as strong as plated steel like Pat's per my machinist brother in law. Now I'm cooking, got QA's for both tractors. Added a Ferguson overseeder. Still great. Added a tiller and Uh oh! Drive shaft to short! Remove Pat's and make brother help me install tiller the old way. Several trades later I end up with a BX2660 and a BX25 which doesn't even have the 3PH arms. I now have an extra set of QA's. Cheap set slip off and on in a few seconds and Pat's takes several minutes and tools to take off and on. What to do? I sell Pat's and keep cheap set which I've used for several years with no problems. Still can't use QA's with drive shaft implements so since I had the money ($100) from the Pat's sale I ordered a set ($70) that hook on top of the arm instead of behind. Haven't hooked them up yet but when I take my tiller off, I will.
Pictures of all three sets.
Bottom line, Pat's are great........... but.....upper arm may have to be replaced and drive shafts may be to short. I'm not slamming Pat's, they are a great Kentucky made product but they as everything else have limitations. No, the cheapos don't have the same method of slide locking the top of the implement pin down as Pat's does. I always have to get off my tractor when I hook something up to attach the upper arm and if it has a drive shaft I have to hook the drive shaft so I don't mind sticking the ring or bolt in to lock the implement pin down before someone points out how much better Pat's is because of their slide locking retainer. Usually Pat.
If I were pulling really heavy stuff alot and it didn't have a drive shaft then I believe Pat's will be stronger than the others.
Disclaimer: I get the same commission on any of these.

 

[KU Gator]

I have the upper set which I purchased either through agri supply or Northern Tool, I don't remember. At the time of purchase, I didn't know there was a difference other than cheaper. I have used them for about 18 months and they have done fine. They came with the adjustable bar to hold the control arms apart, but I cut a piece of PVC which worked better. I have recently bought the telescopic stabilizers like used on the B2630 which hold the control arms apart instead of collapsing in, so that should make the process even easier. I purchased additional washers through PAT's so I have all the implements set up. I found PAT's very easy to work with.

The only implement that I have that uses PTO shaft off the back it my rotary cut mower and the shaft was long enough for it even with the quick connects.

 

[emmy71]

I keep one of these in the tool box just incase the pto shaft on an implement I borrow is too short. Works every time. As far as the top link, I cut mine and welded a piece of pipe in to extend it.

Terry

Extension Adapter - 0271033 | Tractor Supply Company

 

[TripleR]

Bought my first tractor 6 years ago. a BX2200 and started adding implements, a landscape rake, a boxblade and a rear scraper blade. Hated putting the implements on since I did it alone. Discovered Pat's. Became a believer in Pat's. Only thing was upper arm to short but TSC had a longer one for around $20.
Traded the BX2200 to a B7800 and bought a BX1500 so I then needed another set of QA's but not willing to pay that much for another set of Pat's so bought a $90 set of cast iron ones off ebay, not as strong as plated steel like Pat's per my machinist brother in law. Now I'm cooking, got QA's for both tractors. Added a Ferguson overseeder. Still great. Added a tiller and Uh oh! Drive shaft to short! Remove Pat's and make brother help me install tiller the old way. Several trades later I end up with a BX2660 and a BX25 which doesn't even have the 3PH arms. I now have an extra set of QA's. Cheap set slip off and on in a few seconds and Pat's takes several minutes and tools to take off and on. What to do? I sell Pat's and keep cheap set which I've used for several years with no problems. Still can't use QA's with drive shaft implements so since I had the money ($100) from the Pat's sale I ordered a set ($70) that hook on top of the arm instead of behind. Haven't hooked them up yet but when I take my tiller off, I will.
Pictures of all three sets.
Bottom line, Pat's are great........... but.....upper arm may have to be replaced and drive shafts may be to short. I'm not slamming Pat's, they are a great Kentucky made product but they as everything else have limitations. No, the cheapos don't have the same method of slide locking the top of the implement pin down as Pat's does. I always have to get off my tractor when I hook something up to attach the upper arm and if it has a drive shaft I have to hook the drive shaft so I don't mind sticking the ring or bolt in to lock the implement pin down before someone points out how much better Pat's is because of their slide locking retainer. Usually Pat.
If I were pulling really heavy stuff alot and it didn't have a drive shaft then I believe Pat's will be stronger than the others.
Disclaimer: I get the same commission on any of these.

Where did you get the ones that fit on top of the lift arms?

 

[thatguy]

Guess I'm blind.... both the units appear identical to me...don't see the item you are referring to. My unit is like the grey one in your photo...attachment is easy. I've found the PATS people very easy to talk to... suggest you give them a call. Bet they'd get all your questions answered.

By the way, I recommend the PATS system.

The one thing is see is that in the lower pic there is an adjustable bolt to hold the latch open.. On the upper model it is just a metal tab

brian

 

[RickB]

The one thing is see is that in the lower pic there is an adjustable bolt to hold the latch open.. On the upper model it is just a metal tab

brian

If that's the only difference, I'll gladly keep the $20 I saved @ Agri Supply. So far, I'm happy with mine.

 

[kuboman]

Had a set and put them on the shelf and bought a real quick hitch. Best money ever spent.:thumbsup:

 

[smokey_truck]

Had a set and put them on the shelf and bought a real quick hitch. Best money ever spent.:thumbsup:

What type of quick hitch did you buy and where. I was looking at the HarborFreight one, mine is BX1860, I only have one implement so far is 5' rear blade from Countyline. But I dont want to keep it on tractor all the time. Can you share picture of your quick hitch as well

Thanks
Ganesh

 

[kuboman]

What type of quick hitch did you buy and where. I was looking at the HarborFreight one, mine is BX1860, I only have one implement so far is 5' rear blade from Countyline. But I dont want to keep it on tractor all the time. Can you share picture of your quick hitch as well

Thanks
Ganesh

I bought the Landpride QH15. I like it because it has the adjustable top link. They are available through Kubota so your dealer should be able to get you one.
If you go to landpride.com and go to hitches under products it gives you a good picture plus you can look at the instruction manual and parts manual.

 

[Kayakin2]

Going to assemble my 3PH on my new BX25 to use my Box Blade, Landscape Rake and shortly, my tiller. Any insight? Shall I buy PATS or not?
Will I run into any fit issues? JT?

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Going to assemble my 3PH on my new BX25 to use my Box Blade, Landscape Rake and shortly, my tiller. Any insight? Shall I buy PATS or not?
Will I run into any fit issues? JT?

I don't think you'll run into any fit issues other than you may have to get a different longer drive shaft and longer upper arm for the tiller. That's why I sold my Pat's and went for the cheaper ones from Ebay that let the implement sit on top of the QH instead of setting the implement several inches further back. QH's are the only way to go in my opinion, not the single piece ones unless you only have one implement that the single piece one fits but the extension arm ones. The cheapos hook on and off real quick if you decide to not use QH's for tiller but for other stuff that doesn't have drive shafts. I did buy a longer upper arm from TSC for about $20 to take care of that problem. You may not need one so hook up first. Pat's requires time and tools to install and take off. I haven't installed my latest ones that sit on top yet, will probably today to see if they have any issues.

 

[thatguy]

I love my Pats EZ Hitch - it really saves you time when hooking up to stuff.. BUT you really need the spreader bar and even then you may end up off/on the tractor a couple times getting hooked up..

As a kid i remember trying to get our rough cutter hooked up to an 8n - such a pain backing up trying to line up the hitch pins one at a time.. and having to man handle the cutter to get the second pins lined up..

Brian

 

[johnk]

I agree with Thatguy. Pats is sure a time and bac saver. Used them for years and they sure make life a lot easier..

 

[texasjohn]

I love my Pats.

My Kubota has adjustable lower links that are held in place with chains....almost always all I need to do is set them for the right width adjustment and then back up, lift the arms and I'm connected.

I have hydraulic top link, thus top link connection is easy.

Happens that my shredder drive shaft has sufficient length, so no problem. However, if there were a problem, there is a drive shaft extension that is available from TSC.

Also, there is now a new kind of Pats that slips onto the lower link...don't have this and thus cannot describe it accurately. I have the sense that it avoids the problem of extending the lower link length, but cannot be sure.

For me, PATS is the best solution. I installed them and have enjoyed them every time I hooked anything up.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

This is an interesting thread. I think I will give Pat a call about my 265 MF arms. The Bushhog box blade and the heavy 'bushhog" both have pins that pass through holes on each side of the arm which is very hard. My son is big enough to help now but the though of him getting hurt for no good reason is very painful if $200 will make it a more "hands" free job.

 

[KU Gator]

I usually keep my implements under the deck. In order to clean the area, I needed to move them all. So I dropped the box blade off the back of the tractor in the rock driveway. Then one at a time got the sprayer, rear blade and rotary mower and brought them around and put them in the diveway without paying much attention to how level it was. After cleaning the leaves and dirt up from under the deck, reversed the process. With the Pat's system, hooking up each only took a couple of minutes.

As mentioned in an earlier post, I have switched the turnbuckle stabilizers to the telescopic stabilizers. This was the first test of them. As they hold the lower arms apart instead of colapsing in, no need to use the seperator stick. I also like them because I can use the draw bar to tow the trailers around the yard without the lower arms hitting against the trailer.

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