ROLL BACK VS this

LBrown59 · Oct 5, 2009

ROLL BACK VS this

Which one would you rather have to haul your tractor on and why ?

dawzie · Oct 5, 2009

This is fine except you lose the tee bar option to tow something off the back.

Ductape · Oct 5, 2009

Rollback

Much better loading angle.
Ability to tow a second vehicle (when properly equipped).
Ability to unload disabled or damaged vehicles that don't roll (whole bed tilts up).

I could go on and on about all around versatility, but if all you want to do is move your tractor a few times a year, either will do. The tilting tail will be cheaper and be easier to maintain with less moving parts/ hydraulics.

aczlan · Oct 5, 2009

roll back will be cheaper and will be easier to find parts for.

Aaron Z

LBrown59 · Oct 5, 2009

Ductape said:
Rollback

Much better loading angle.
Ability to tow a second vehicle (when properly equipped).
Ability to unload disabled or damaged vehicles that don't roll (whole bed tilts up).

I could go on and on about all around versatility, but if all you want to do is move your tractor a few times a year, either will do. The tilting tail will be cheaper and be easier to maintain with less moving parts/ hydraulics.

aczlan said:
roll back will be cheaper and will be easier to find parts for.

Aaron Z

I'm thinking it would be easier less complicated and less expensive to add a dump feature to the flat bed than it would be to add such a feature to the roll back.

powerstroke444e · Oct 5, 2009

Brown why are you going to purchase something.Or just stir the up a talk about neat truck you seen?

saltbranch · Oct 5, 2009

For a tractor like that, utility trailer behind my Toyota. Save the extra $$ for a bigger tractor and rollback

JMO

QRTRHRS · Oct 5, 2009

Rollback is fine for a smaller machine. Back when I had my 2090 Case which was just under ten feet tall, I deferred to the driver to put that puppy on the rollback the couple of times that I needed to have it hauled for service.

Oh', I would have loaded it had I needed to. Been there done that on other applications but why take a chance when the expert was around.

They had "pockets" ie; wheelwells up front to minimize the overall heighth. That meant backing it up with a rather high reverse gear ratio. The rear axle would accomodate duals but I ran singles all the way out for stability on the hills. The tires overhung the side of the rollback.

It's a case of what works and feels the best for you. For the cost of a rollback, I can buy a decent truck and a trailer that will give me a lot more useage.

Ductape · Oct 5, 2009

LBrown59 said:
I'm thinking it would be easier less complicated and less expensive to add a dump feature to the flat bed than it would be to add such a feature to the roll back.

A modern rollback tilts plenty steep enough to slide a damaged vehicle off....... no need to 'add' a dump feature.

LBrown59 · Oct 6, 2009

saltbranch said:
*For a tractor like that, utility trailer behind my Toyota.

*Then please tell me how to do it.
I already have a Nissan a Toyota and a Dodge 50 Pick up.

LBrown59 · Oct 6, 2009

Ductape said:
A modern rollback tilts plenty steep enough to slide a damaged vehicle off....... no need to 'add' a dump feature.

But not enough to dump dirt off of I've heard.

tlbuser · Oct 6, 2009

LBrown59 said:
ROLL BACK VS this

Which one would you rather have to haul your tractor on and why ?

Neither.

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brin · Oct 6, 2009

I'm with you, I have a Dodge Ram 50 ..small truck and I would love to be able to have a trailer and haul my NH TC-29 with FEL & BH to the farm about 5 miles away..but I think the truck is too light and small..and I hate to buy a bigger truck just to haul the tractor 5 miles a few times a year so I end up driving it over..takes about 20 minutes..probably would take me 20 min, just to load it on a trailer, strap it down and then unload it at the farm so I guess I'll just keep riding the tractor over those 5 miles..that is a boring ride though. LOL

farmboy12 · Oct 6, 2009

Rollbacks can dump, tilt, and just slide. It's not all one motion. There's usually 6 levers on them to operate it. What you have seen, a hydraulic dovetail truck, can haul more because it doesn't have to raise the load. I would go for the rollback most definately.

But, as said, just get a small 5k trailer with brakes, and put a brake kit and receiver on your trucks and you'll be set.

Kyle

LBrown59 · Oct 6, 2009

brin said:
I'm with you,
1*I have a Dodge Ram 50 ..small truck and I would love to be able to have a trailer and haul my NH TC-29 with FEL & BH to the farm about 5 miles away..but I think the truck is too light and small..and I hate to buy a bigger truck just to haul the tractor 5 miles a few times a year so
2*I end up driving it over..takes about 20 minutes..probably would take me 20 min, just to load it on a trailer, strap it down and then unload it at the farm so I guess I'll just keep riding the tractor over those 5 miles..that is a boring ride though. LOL

1*I have a Dodge Ram 50 a Toyota and a Nissan pick up.
I sure don't really want to buy a 4th bigger truck that i don't really care for or want when I already have 3 trucks I like.
2*I would not be driving the tractor the same 5 miles to the same place every time so driving it isn't an option.

saltbranch · Oct 7, 2009

LBrown59, that was my attempt to be sarcastic. I would not consider buying a rollback or hydraulic dovetail truck for a tractor that small in the 1 st post. Honestly a 1/2 ton with a 16' 7k rated trailer better fits the bill per $ spent for personal use.
Now if I were only hauling pictured tractor 5 miles, yep the Yota would be the tow vehicle. My Yota has electric brake controller and I do pull a 16' utility with it. I have rebuilt leaf springs, with added springs. I load 700 plus lbs in the bed alot going to the ranch, Ill put upto 1500 lbs on the trailer as long as its not a wind catching load and pull it at 55mph all day long pretty easily for the 100 mile ride to the ranch. My truck has the 14" tires, I run trailer 14" 6 ply tires on the rear and standard radial 4plys on the front. Fixing to turn 243k miles soon on the Yota. Thats my story and stick in to it.

jwstewar · Oct 7, 2009

I agree with saltbranch. For a 1500 lb tractor, he could get a 16' 7000 lb landscaping trailer w/ brakes that would weigh in around 1500. He is only talking 3000 lbs then. There is no reason why the Toyota or Nissan should tow that just fine if they are in decent shape. I looked up a '99 Toyota w/ the i4 is rated to tow 3500 w/ the V6 is rated at 5000. So he should be fine. Now a fullsize 1/2 ton would be better, but there is no reason to look at a roll back or F350 Dually like he has been for those little tractors.

Diamondpilot · Oct 7, 2009

He's been dreaming of a single do it all tractor toting, dumping, wrecker truck for years. Here is the thing though, it has to be 3' tall so he can load it with his little tractor.

News flash, it does not exist. What I do not get is he has been talking about this for 3 years now so in reality he really does not need it. If so he would have bought it 2 years and 11 months ago.

Just talk

Chris

tlbuser · Oct 7, 2009

Diamondpilot said:
News flash, it does not exist.

Chris

Yea, it does. And you load it flat on the ground then place on the truck.
http://www.switchngo.com/category_display.aspx?cat_guid=Landscape&gclid=CPmO4a7rqJ0CFRshnAodcE9Ojg

jwstewar · Oct 7, 2009

You hit it Chris. But you also forgot that it has to be one of his existing trucks because he likes them and doesn't want a different one.

For about $1500 (or less) he could have his "problem" solved and we could all be done with all of these posts asking for the impossible truck.

BTW LB, we don't mean to offend you, just busting your chops a little.