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[farmboy12]

We like manuals, and I do think that was a bad move for GM. We would have a manual truck, but there are two reasons not to. One- Dad has on and off back problems, so a manual won't be good for him when he's in a bad time. Two- the truck goes under company name and bill goes to the company. My dad and grandfather have split the company between the two of them. So, since my grandfather owns the slightly bigger portion of the company, he decides what goes in the truck. Dad would own it all under normal circumstances, but my grandfather is 66 and WON'T stop working. He won't let us get a tractor with a cab because-"There's no use having a tractor if you can't sweat."


Kyle

 

[Builder]

I know you know this Duane. I was just trying to give the kid all the info. He seems like a young man that likes to learn as much as he can so he can make a educated decision.

It does not need a manual shift feature because Ford has not abandoned manual trannys like GM. I wonder how many sales they have lost because of that bright idea. Granted the Allison is a great tranny but there are some die-hards that like banging gears.

Chris

Maybe far less sales than they've gained by offering a full featured 6 speed transmission made by a world leader in industrial grade transmissions like Allison. Look at GM's diesel truck sales figures since they offered the DMAX/Ally combo. They went way up.

You could also look at it the other way around. Maybe Ford feels they need to continue to offer a 6 speed maunal because they only offer an in house 5 speed auto with no manual shift feature.

Maybe Ford will change to a different transmission when they change to their new European made diesel engine next year.

I'm not buying another diesel truck without a combination of a factory exhaust brake and a name brand tranny again.

 

[farmboy12]

Maybe far less sales than they've gained by offering a full featured 6 speed transmission made by a world leader in industrial grade transmissions like Allison. Look at GM's diesel truck sales figures since they offered the DMAX/Ally combo. They went way up.

You could also look at it the other way around. Maybe Ford feels they need to continue to offer a 6 speed maunal because they only offer an in house 5 speed auto with no manual shift feature.

Maybe Ford will change to a different transmission when they change to their new European made diesel engine next year.

I'm not buying another diesel truck without a combination of a factory exhaust brake and a name brand tranny again.

Any idea what it'll be called?


Kyle

 

[gemini5362]

Any idea what it'll be called?


Kyle

maybe a volvo ?

 

[Builder]

Maybe a "CAT" hehe.

 

[WilliamBos]

Maybe Ford will change to a different transmission when they change to their new European made diesel engine next year.

So when did Mexico become part of Europe??

PickupTrucks.com: Caught - First Underhood Pictures of New 4.4-Liter V-8 Ford Diesel

 

[Builder]

So when did Mexico become part of Europe??

PickupTrucks.com: Caught - First Underhood Pictures of New 4.4-Liter V-8 Ford Diesel

That's the smaller diesel for the F-150. The Superduty might see it as a base engine, but they are rumored to be building a "scorpion" diesel with Peugot over in Europe.

Last I heard the 4.4L Powestroke was going to be scrapped.

 

[dgl24087]

Any idea what it'll be called?


Kyle

Scorpion if I remember correctly.

 

[Builder]

I think he means the name of the transmission, not the engine,.

 

[WilliamBos]

That's the smaller diesel for the F-150. The Superduty might see it as a base engine, but they are rumored to be building a "scorpion" diesel with Peugot over in Europe.

Last I heard the 4.4L Powestroke was going to be scrapped.

You mean this one...

PickupTrucks.com: Caught! Underhood Pic of Ford's 6.7-liter Scorpion Diesel V-8

 

[farmboy12]

I think he means the name of the transmission, not the engine,.

Well, I was kinda askin' about the engine. But later I reread your post and wanted to know the transmission too. Your both right.

 

[farmboy12]

As we're looking at a new truck, I'm gonna look at some trailers too.

Now, this isn't as serious as the truck, but I wanna look at them. We know the exact truck we want, and just need to go to the dealer and buy it. Anyway, we currently have an 18'+4' bumper pull deckover. It has two 12,000# axles.

There is one we're looking at. It has three 7,000# axles, so it can't handle as much of a load as ours, but it's only by 3000#, and we've never even gone to 15,000# I believe. It's nice, and it's good to have a tilt deck, because we have antique tractors that are tricycle. It is longer than our current trailer. I don't know about the big drop off at the back when it's down, a little jump. Nothing a tractor can't handle, but more than we want. How does it look to you guys?


Kyle

 

[farmboy12]

Never mind that last message.

We were pretty sold on that Ford. Last night, however, we drove a Dodge Cummmins w/ the Asin auto. It was AWESOME! They come standard with an exhaust brake, and this one had an on-board compressor, and you can adjust the amount of pressure in your tires. It didn't have quite as nice of an interior, but rode better than the Ford. An unrealistic power advantage over the Ford. The tranny was also great. It was very comparable the Allison 6 in our motorhome.


Now, can anyone tell me of any other problems with the Dodge, other than the DPF crap?

We love Cummins, but thought that Dodge fell behind. We don't think that anymore!

Next, a Duramax/ Allison test.


Kyle

 

[Builder]

Between the Aisin 6 and the exhaust brake, Ford just can't compare to Dodge right now. GM has a 4500/5500 that can be had with an exhaust brake, a 360HP DMAX and an air ride seat with compressor. You can even get an even bigger ally, an RDS (rugged duty series) 2230 6 speed auto.

Never knew the tires could be inflated in the Dodge, I thought the compressor was for an air ride seat.

 

[Diamondpilot]

The problems I had with my 2500 Dodge was everything Dodge made. It was just cheap and did not hold up. All the little things broke but the powertrain and running gear were fine.

Chris

 

[farmboy12]

DP-
That's what we were thinking. However, back in 2004, we bought one of the Durango's when it first changed style, and it held up great. We used it daily, we sold it to my aunt and uncle, and they still use it everyday, with no problems.


Kyle

 

[Builder]

Everybody's experiences with trucks, tractors, etc. varies. Just because one guy has trouble doesn't mean everyone else will, too.

 

[farmboy12]

That is true. Very true in fact.


Kyle

 

[Diamondpilot]

That is very true. It was a Hemi and while I love the HP it was not a good tow vehicle. I would rather tow with a 5.4 Ford or a 6.0 GM. The best mpg I could get was 12 and I saw 8 alot of times in just town driving. The Hemi should not have ever been put into a truck, it makes the HP but the torque is made at way too high of a RPM for good towing. It makes a awesome engine in a street car like a Challenger.

I did see things start to fall apart on mine in the 2 years we had it. We go it new and had to have the AC compressor replace, 2 trannys repairs(traded with a bad tranny the second time), power steering pump, radiator cooling fan, and a few other small items. I dumped it before the warranty was gone at the time of the second tranny problems and never looked back.

Chris

 

[farmboy12]

All in all we have a pretty good experiences with Chrysler-

3 Jeeps- Wrangler, I was never alive for it, so I don't know.

- Grand Cherokee, 1995, ran great, got stolen

-Wrangler, 1999, still runs great with only about 40,000 miles on it.
8 Dodges- 1988 Dodge 3500, first year with a Cummins. It was used by my dad as a service truck. Ran great.

- 1991 Dodge 3500, Cummins ran terrible.

-Grand Caravan, 2001, used by my aunt and uncle til 2007 when they got our Durango

-2004 Durango, you already heard about that, runs great.

-2008 Grand Caravan, just bought as an extra vehicle by my grandfather. Runs great!

-2005 Sprinter, runs fantastic.

-2006 Sprinter, terrible issues. But, it was the motor, which is made by Mercedes. Chrysler even brought in two German mechanics, top notch, but couldn't figure out what was wrong. Then the gave us a new Sprinter.

- 2008 Sprinter, runs great.


Kyle