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JB4310

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I'm just gonna through this out there and let you folks use your own imagination.
I had the carriers left over after John Deere replaced them for my 300 cx, these are the originals which never broke but I told them I wanted the new ones sitting on my shelf in case they broke on a week end or holiday snow storm, was supposed to return them but now they don't care.
Nothing welded yet but when it's clipped to an implement it can't even come apart.
Probably not practical for use with buckets, but forks and snow plows might benifit from such an option.
 

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I'm just gonna through this out there and let you folks use your own imagination.

I like it. There's little doubt a use will surface and when it does you will already have had the tough part fabricated. Another example of the imagination at work. I envy those of you that are able to see something laying around and think, "I can make something out of that" I on the other hand can build stuff by looking at what somebody else has done but to me it's not the same. Good job!
 
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Very clever JB4310...
 
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Interesting...Definitely need that HTL now:D
 
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Interesting indeed.
 
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That is an interesting idea, but you might want to re-think the design a little. The overhung pins supporting the QA plates are going to take a real beating, and are not very strong in that application. Those plates look like they were designed to attach to a loader arm? If you are going to put this to any real work, you might want to build a wider frame that will support the pins thru the QA plates on both ends... A hydraulic toplink like mentioned for bucket/fork tilt would make this pretty versatile.
 
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I'm just trying to show the concept here, not saying it's the best design, but I'll bet it will lift the forks capacity as is even with just a few pieces of loose stock metal, those 2 lower bars are solid 1.5 inch (turned down to 1" inside the carriers), the upper bar is 1.25" and the box is 3x4x3/16, after it's welded it'll be real solid. The carriers can be held on the shafts with anything just to keep them from falling off when not coupled to an implement, once connected they can't go anywhere.
I don't even need this as I already modded my forks to mount on the i-match, I did it because I think there should be something like this available to all those who buy loader mounted forks and would like to utilize them on their 3pts. Of course the forks could be modded by the manufacturer but with an adaptor like this any front implement could be used on the rear.

I really think one of those a loader mounted power angle plows that many people here have, put on the 3pt with their bucket back on the loader would make a great snow machine. I know the concerns about pushing with the 3pt and the lack of down pressure might make this idea NG.

Because of the angle of the back of the bucket, I don't think it could be used as a dirt scoop as you would need an extra long HTL to dump it and the geometry doesn't look right with the I match. But as you can see in the photo of my 73" light materials bucket that it would make a great carry all.
JB.
 
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updated pictures after painting. any one have other application suggestions?
 

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/ I think this is a first! #11  
Just an observation. Your loader's lift capacity is (i'm guessing here) 900lbs, your 3ph will probably lift close to twice that. I will venture to guess that the bucket was designed to handle the loader capacity and you could do some damage to it if you get the bucket lip "hooked" under something big and heavy. As I said it's just an observation.
I think it is a crafty idea. Add the previously mentioned hydraulic top link and it will really shine at some use. I have an idea! If you want to back-drag a larger area with the loader.
 
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Very nice workmanship and innovative idea.
With two buckets people won't know whether you're coming or going. :)
 
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Yup, looks pretty goofy.
I don't think the bucket would be able to be used to move dirt efficiently as even with a HTL you would not have enough dump angle, really no dump angle, if you notice in the picture my turn buckle top link is all the way out and the bottom of the bucket is just level.
Does make a handy carry all, I leave the adaptor connected to my 73" light materials bucket that I just use for snow, this way if I need some extra trunk space I just pick it up with the i-match.

I told the local JD dealer I'm gonna bring it to show him and see if he thinks Deere might be interested in the concept. such a simple piece to for the versatility it provides.
JB.
 

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If you get a set of forks that work with the FEL now they also work with the 3point :) purpose enough for me
 
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I can see several uses. Carry-all for the rear, Pallet Forks, and most of all for me a bale spear on the rear, all of which I already have for the front. My question at this point is how do you curl into the bucket? Does the top and tilt have enough rotation?

You got my mind working overtime now.
 
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Never thought about a bale spear, as my use is commercial as opposed to agri, You now have a JD type quick tach (top hook and bottom pin) spear? I would think a spear on the rear would be the way to go as long as you didn't have to lift it high, would have a higher weight capacity for sure and be more stable, also wouldn't have to remove bucket.

Not sure what your asking about the curl, I don't have T&T only manual top link, curling back is not a problem as the back of the bucket is tilted towards the bucket when the bottom is level, just not anything left for dumping the bucket. Bucket use on 3pt is more of a novelty.
JB.
 
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About 10 years ago there was a company out there building a rear loader like yours. They were marketing mostly towards the grey market tractors. I forget the company name.
 
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It's sort of like the SuperPan I had a bunch of years ago. It was very
handy, could be dumped, and was well built.

Bill
 
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I think that it is a great way to carry a second implement that you will need for the task on the other side of the field or down the road. For example say that you are going to cut a bit of fire wood from a few wind downed trees. You could take both the forks and the bucket with you. The logs could be stacked with the forks and the bucket would help dig out the stumps and stack them for burning. Only an example, but for me it seems that the other part of my task always requires that second implement which is sitting at home.

Mike
 
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I think that it is a great way to carry a second implement that you will need for the task on the other side of the field or down the road. For example say that you are going to cut a bit of fire wood from a few wind downed trees. You could take both the forks and the bucket with you. The logs could be stacked with the forks and the bucket would help dig out the stumps and stack them for burning. Only an example, but for me it seems that the other part of my task always requires that second implement which is sitting at home.

Mike

Yup, good point I had not thought of that.
 

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