Security & Theft Securing tractor from theft
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greenbeanman in Kansas
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Punch cards, hm? But can he get the hanging chad Florida voting machines to work?
Not enough thread drift yet, but we're working on it.
Not enough thread drift yet, but we're working on it.
denmansoft
Gold Member
I saw an interview where your election agency is still trying to figure what standards need to go into a specification to design a voting machine that will meet their needs. I'll be watching for more hanging chads in florida in 2012!
We could all sharpen up the cutting edge of our FEL's and trim those chads!
We could all sharpen up the cutting edge of our FEL's and trim those chads!
Soundguy
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Our county used scantron type.. not punch type.
soundguy
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gemini5362
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We used an electronic voting machine that had a paper tape roll kind of like at the checkout stand in the supermarket. To me that is the best of both worlds the ease of electronic voting but a paper record just to make sure.
patrick_g
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Could you provide the names of the non HAM hams?
Later,
Dan
Both of them?
patrick_g
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N6AYR, (Always Yacking Radio)Tech call sign, general ticket. First lisc as KN5DBP (decibel Pat, which was funny as I was QRP and QRPP much of the time and never so much as 100W unless on someone else's rig.) Got KN5DBP while in Edmond, OK in 1962
First learned Morse code from my sisters girl scout handbook when in 1st or 2nd grade. Made a key from a board and some sheet metal (tin can) and nails and drove my mom crazy having her check the book to see if I got the letters right.
I have a new integrated tractor theft methodology under test. I shut the tractor off a few days ago and it will not attempt to start. It is parked near my garage, well within accurate pistol shot range but too close for a clear view in a rifle scope. Apparently one of the safety switches, it has three, may have malfunctioned.
I suspected the clutch switch that ensures the clutch is depressed or it will not crank but turned out I was wrong. That leaves the PTO switch and hydrostat pedal switch. The PTO lever is in the disengaged position but what about the switch it also activates? The hydrostat pedal is in center of travel (disengaged) but what about the switch on that which prevents starting the tractor with the pedal depressed?
As fate would have it the precise location of the tractor is a soupy mud puddle (isolated rain of over an inch just at the WRONG time) so I haven't crawled under it to check out the remaining two switches. (HINT: another tractor theft prevention strategy is to park it in soupy mud.)
I talked with my Kubota mech and he said there is a ground from the fuse box to the frame and although he doesn't understand why, if that connection is not good then intermittent safety switch action is likely.
Is there another anti-theft ploy in there somewhere? A secret switch to open the ground wire from the fuse box? An inline fuse holder in a wire required to pass current to let the engine crank (not the big wire to the starter from the battery) can have a known bad fuse in place or remove the good fuse to compound the thief's problem, assuming of course he isn't using a tilt back or a winch and ramps in which case the tractor is going bye bye irrespective of all the cute tricks in the world short of force of arms.
Pat
First learned Morse code from my sisters girl scout handbook when in 1st or 2nd grade. Made a key from a board and some sheet metal (tin can) and nails and drove my mom crazy having her check the book to see if I got the letters right.
I have a new integrated tractor theft methodology under test. I shut the tractor off a few days ago and it will not attempt to start. It is parked near my garage, well within accurate pistol shot range but too close for a clear view in a rifle scope. Apparently one of the safety switches, it has three, may have malfunctioned.
I suspected the clutch switch that ensures the clutch is depressed or it will not crank but turned out I was wrong. That leaves the PTO switch and hydrostat pedal switch. The PTO lever is in the disengaged position but what about the switch it also activates? The hydrostat pedal is in center of travel (disengaged) but what about the switch on that which prevents starting the tractor with the pedal depressed?
As fate would have it the precise location of the tractor is a soupy mud puddle (isolated rain of over an inch just at the WRONG time) so I haven't crawled under it to check out the remaining two switches. (HINT: another tractor theft prevention strategy is to park it in soupy mud.)
I talked with my Kubota mech and he said there is a ground from the fuse box to the frame and although he doesn't understand why, if that connection is not good then intermittent safety switch action is likely.
Is there another anti-theft ploy in there somewhere? A secret switch to open the ground wire from the fuse box? An inline fuse holder in a wire required to pass current to let the engine crank (not the big wire to the starter from the battery) can have a known bad fuse in place or remove the good fuse to compound the thief's problem, assuming of course he isn't using a tilt back or a winch and ramps in which case the tractor is going bye bye irrespective of all the cute tricks in the world short of force of arms.
Pat
gemini5362
Veteran Member
Pat is the battery on your tractor charged 
something tells me that you did not turn the key on and then manually engage the starter solenoid to see if it would start and if so then you could move it out of the mud hole to your garage and have a nicer place to work on it.
something tells me that you did not turn the key on and then manually engage the starter solenoid to see if it would start and if so then you could move it out of the mud hole to your garage and have a nicer place to work on it.patrick_g
Elite Member
Pat is the battery on your tractor charged
Right. I have more than enough other things to do so I haven't really concentrated on the tractor. I could start it by exceptional means. The battery is fairly new and well charged. Right now I don't have floor space to put it inside. the 10 ft wide opening ( I have the rollup door just need to assemble/install) into the new metal shop is blocked by over 30 4x8 sheets of fiber cement on a pair of 200 lb steel horses. The otherwise available center bay of the 3 car garage is the site of the welding trailer build which is stalled awaiting the air compressor (2 more days till delivery as it is in OKC now at Yellow Freight.)
Today is a lazy morning, lunch with my wife, and then this PM a trip to Ada Or Shawnee to buy vinyl siding for the wall I added to enclose the new metal/welding shop. I will get to the tractor in the next few days, most likely will "force" it to start, ignoring the safety switches as you suggest.
So many projects, so little time.
Pat
gemini5362
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Um pat what about that 1 million square feet metal workshop with the overhead crane etc. dont you think that would be a better place to work on it than a mudhole ?
