L3400 hydraulic leak

[westbrooklawn]

The LA463 loader on my L3400 gear tractor started acting up today... it acted like it was struggling to lift... very slow and with a shuddering, jerky motion. Three point lift was very slow also. My first thought was to check my hydraulic fluid sight level, and it appeared O.K. I then notice it was dripping oil from under the block where the hydraulic lines connect. Upon further inspection, it appears the leak is coming from the rubber hose near the brake pedal area. The hose is in line with two metal pipes, one from the hydro oil filter, and the other side going into a device on the engine block (hydro pump perhaps?). I am surprised there is a rubber hose in this circuit... I assume it is on the inlet side of the pump, and not under pressure? I have attached a picture. My question... what is this hose?... and is there any way other than the sight level to check fluid level?... there is no dipstick on the fill cap where hydro fluid goes. Any suggestions?

 

[wushaw]

Well if that's the suction line...and it appears to be then you very well could be sucking air instead of hydro fluid making it jerky.

Fix it or you could trash out the pump by running it dry.

 

[LD1]

That IS the suction line comming off the filter and going into the pump. To my knowledge, there is no other way to check the hydro fluid.

Is there a hole in the rubber hose or is it just leaking around the clamps?

 

[redhawknc1]

I just replaced that same hose on my L2800. $21.10....had it put on when I had my FEL put on a few weeks ago. All I have is the sight glass also. And I had to replace it a while back. Cracked somehow.

 

[westbrooklawn]

LD1 - there is actually a crack in the hose and it is all the way through the rubber. I just ordered the part online... no dealers in the area stocked it... $20 plus overnight shipping (about $50 total.. ouch!) I think the fluid level is fine, it is just sucking some air along with fluid, and I don't want to continue to run it and potentially damage the pump.

 

[pax_tractor]

LD1 - there is actually a crack in the hose and it is all the way through the rubber. I just ordered the part online... no dealers in the area stocked it... $20 plus overnight shipping (about $50 total.. ouch!) I think the fluid level is fine, it is just sucking some air along with fluid, and I don't want to continue to run it and potentially damage the pump.

I just discovered this problem today on my L2800 HST. The hose is cracked and it seems to allow air into the pump. :-( I could smell hydraulic fluid first and then I noticed the FEL acting very slow and the steering is acting-up now. Hope I didnt do any serious damage.

 

[westbrooklawn]

Pax -

Exact same symptoms I had. As soon as I replace the hose, everything returned to normal.

 

[wnebel]

Hello Westbrook...who did you order the hose part from? I have a leak in the same area on my B7800. Also was the hose difficult to replace? I am a novice mechanic. Thanks in advance for any info

 

[westbrooklawn]

I ordered from "tractorsmart.com". The part is very easy to change... it is held on by standard hose clamps on each end.

 

[wnebel]

Thanks for the reply. Do you have to drain the hydraulic fluid in order to change the hose? Thanks again for your help.

 

[pax_tractor]

Thanks for the reply. Do you have to drain the hydraulic fluid in order to change the hose? Thanks again for your help.

I just replaced mine on my L2800, it's very easy to replace and does not require any fluid draining. A little fluid will pour out by not much. Just be sure to have the replacement hose ready to go with clamps installed so you can quickly pull the old one off and slip on the new one thereby minimizing any contaminants getting in the fluid.

I ordered my hose from tractorsmart. It arrived in two days to MD.

 

[Crash101]

Would you guys mind sharing with us the part number of the hose. Looks like a spare on hand might be a good idea.
Thanks in advance...

 

[pax_tractor]

Would you guys mind sharing with us the part number of the hose. Looks like a spare on hand might be a good idea.
Thanks in advance...

Here is the P/N for the the hydraulic inlet hose used on my HST L2800; TC220-33330. I don't know if it's used on other models.

 

[parkerbdlght]

Kubota had a vender problem with these hoses, so a new one was issued to the dealers. This is done under warranty at any Kubota dealer.

 

[teg]

An actual "warranty" ... that's a good one. Or do you mean that it's a "Product Improvement bulletin"? In either case, I guess I need to order one...

 

[parkerbdlght]

If your dealer can't get this under warranty they are not trying

 

[teg]

What "year" model are we talking about. Are these the earlier version, say 2005? My, so called, warranty period ended a couple months back... ...and yes, I was a moron who save a couple $100 bucks and got a worthless dealer who would have jacked me around on this too. You get what you pay for...

 

[parkerbdlght]

The last one I did was a 2005, Kubota did it with no questions asked. The owner didn't even buy the tractor from us.

 

[oldcarkook]

A friendly reminder to the uninitiated: when you have a leak in a hose, remember that for every amount of fluid it leaks out, it sucks in the same amount on the "return stroke" so if you decide that a small leak is cheaper to top off, that's a false economy. It will suck in dust and grit and ruin the hydraulics faster by circulating grime.

Deal with leaks promptly and thoroughly. It's not like a leak in a fuel tank where it just drips out. Hydraulic leaks both IN and OUT depending on where the leak is and what the load is.

 

[wushaw]

Well I just placed my order for a replacement hose from Coleman Equipment 18.95 and 7.23 shipping.
I noticed today it is cracked but the pump is not cavitating..... "yet" so I figure I better get one on order and replace asap.