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[ultrarunner]

Did someone have to stand guard at generator with 12g

Many were stolen but mine was behind a locked gate and chained with heavy chain…

It is always a concern.

 

[grsthegreat]

People always run around like headless chicken when power fails. But after its back up, the become complacent and dont follow thru getting prepared fir next one.

I may have said this before. When i was installing backup generators i had a small HOA contact me to install a small 3phase air cooled to the community well. I gave them the bid than they wouldnt return my calls or email inquiry. No loss to me, iwas always busy. Than came the November windstorm that knocked down about 3500 power poles. People were out of power for weeks. Linemen from all over and also from Canada hit the area.

That HOA called me and said i could install their generator immediately as there were 6 or 8 families without water. I wasnt going to, but i ended up calling them and telling the guy even IF i had a 3 phase generator in stock, which i did not, i could possibly have it up and running today. They didnt even have a propane tank to run it. He became a jerk and demanded i find a way to power the well so they would have water. I hung up and never talked to them again. Ill bet they still dont have a generator.

 

[grsthegreat]

People in California steal anything. After the 94 northridge earthquake, i came down to work for my old employer for 9 months ( money was tooooo good). I was working on shearing the walls on a vacant apartment complex we were renovating. Had a large air compressor running many nail guns. Suddenly guns stopped working. Walked over to where the air compressor USED to be…….just air hoses. Some ahole stole it while it was running.

I have never had a tool stollen in Idaho in over 30 years. Heck, in Montana during really windy cold nights, people leave their cars running while going to store so engines wouldnt freeze up (-40°). No one would steal the car.

 

[JRH02]

Did someone have to stand guard at generator with 12g

When you have lights on and noise you are you target?

 

[ultrarunner]

People in California steal anything. After the 94 northridge earthquake, i came down to work for my old employer for 9 months ( money was tooooo good). I was working on shearing the walls on a vacant apartment complex we were renovating. Had a large air compressor running many nail guns. Suddenly guns stopped working. Walked over to where the air compressor USED to be…….just air hoses. Some ahole stole it while it was running.

I have never had a tool stollen in Idaho in over 30 years. Heck, in Montana during really windy cold nights, people leave their cars running while going to store so engines wouldnt freeze up (-40°). No one would steal the car.

Honest to gosh the PGE utility crews here have off duty uniformed police officers standing by… not directing traffic and only there to prevent robbery.

Crews were getting robbed at gunpoint so they started refusing to go certain places and union backed them.

Same for Bay Area news crews…

The off duty police officers are paid about $100 per hour by the networks and utilities to be armed at the job sites such as power pole or transformer replacement.

PG&E hiring off-duty Oakland police officers to protect crews working in the city

According to the latest crime statistics from Oakland police, robberies are up 22% compared to this same time last year, and among the victims are utility crews.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[grsthegreat]

Honest to gosh the PGE utility crews here have off duty uniformed police officers standing by… not directing traffic and only there to prevent robbery.

Crews were getting robbed at gunpoint so they started refusing to go certain places and union backed them.

Same for Bay Area news crews…

The off duty police officers are paid about $100 per hour by the networks and utilities to be armed at the job sites such as power pole or transformer replacement.

PG&E hiring off-duty Oakland police officers to protect crews working in the city

According to the latest crime statistics from Oakland police, robberies are up 22% compared to this same time last year, and among the victims are utility crews.

www.cbsnews.com

Now thats really sad. Last time i was in calif was 5 or 6 years ago to attend a wedding in orange county. I could not believe i wasnt in a 3rd world country. Homeless people everywheres, especially in the LA reservoir . When i was in Caracas Venezuela i felt safer……

 

[3930dave]

Dont know how old the deck gfci is, but some real old ones still work after electronics inside fail. I have ran into alot of them that wont trip with my gfci tripper tool, but still provide power.

Newer ones fail open.

Good point.

I've had that one trip in the past, but that is likely a lot longer ago than I think it is.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

The family did not speak English and from Vietnam… I imagine cooking in the home country may be in well ventilated semi open kitchens?

Likely the case. Still plenty of lung-damage (over decades) from using charcoal semi-enclosed like that.

Just not immediately fatal, so may be considered "normal" in other climates/geographies.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

We hear of that type of stunt too often, even gas grills being used inside during power outages.

Sadly, yes too, north of the 49th.

Big ice-storm, 98. Fire-crews hauling everybody out of a house near Ottawa. Dad had brought a big gas grill inside, fired it up full blast, then everybody went to bed.

NOT new-Canadians either ^. Fast-crews, and BS luck, they all survived.

How can people who were "educated" in a first-world country, know so little ?

Rgds, D

 

[3930dave]

Honest to gosh the PGE utility crews here have off duty uniformed police officers standing by… not directing traffic and only there to prevent robbery.

Crews were getting robbed at gunpoint so they started refusing to go certain places and union backed them.

Same for Bay Area news crews…

The off duty police officers are paid about $100 per hour by the networks and utilities to be armed at the job sites such as power pole or transformer replacement.

PG&E hiring off-duty Oakland police officers to protect crews working in the city

According to the latest crime statistics from Oakland police, robberies are up 22% compared to this same time last year, and among the victims are utility crews.

www.cbsnews.com

As much as I hate to admit it..... California leads the continent, on way too many things.

Many Kanadian cities, are catching up though....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

So to me the worst of the worst is the person who thinks the whole world has to watch out for them. These are the ones who, as an example, want a mandate that all generators should have a CO sensor that isn't reliable anyway. But they'll force it down your throat because of their own short comings. If one wants a generator with a CO sensor they should be able to buy it. And for those smart enough to not run a generator in their garage, they should be able to buy one without. This goes a whole lot further than the example for sure.

Here's the Catch.....

People that will take Responsibility, also typically want Autonomy and Freewill.

That ^ monster rabbit-hole, goes way beyond this thread, and mostly likely would lead to a closed-thread on TBN.

(Clarity, if needed - you and I are totally on the same page ).

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

It was my spare 3500 Companion that is easy to start and easy on fuel.

Pulled the refrigerator out enough to plug it into my new 50’ 12ga extension cord… so refrigerator good.

It's maybe only a 50/50 chance, but same "incapable of physical effort pulling an easy-start cord" person.... I can see spending hours every week in a gym.....

Darwin, still lives among us....

Rgds, D.

 

[JRH02]

Dont know how old the deck gfci is, but some real old ones still work after electronics inside fail. I have ran into alot of them that wont trip with my gfci tripper tool, but still provide power.

Newer ones fail open.

At the moment I am stringing wire to separate the circuit to the outside deck fridge which the GFCI goes open. EVERYTHING is Kosher but ya don't want an outside refrigerator on a GFCI. This is a new Samsung unit.

 

[DarkBlack]

Honest to gosh the PGE utility crews here have off duty uniformed police officers standing by… not directing traffic and only there to prevent robbery.

Crews were getting robbed at gunpoint so they started refusing to go certain places and union backed them.

Same for Bay Area news crews…

The off duty police officers are paid about $100 per hour by the networks and utilities to be armed at the job sites such as power pole or transformer replacement.

PG&E hiring off-duty Oakland police officers to protect crews working in the city

According to the latest crime statistics from Oakland police, robberies are up 22% compared to this same time last year, and among the victims are utility crews.

www.cbsnews.com

Purposely flood your country with illegals from countries considered 3rd world countries, and we become like that 3rd world country.
Is there anything surprising about that?

 

[ultrarunner]

It is surprising because it’s rather new for utility crews and news crews to be attacked…

Utility lineman not exactly pushovers.

In all honestly 2019 was one of the best years here… new businesses, renovations, openings… the complaint was gentrification… go figure.

Then the pandemic and the longest pandemic policies in the nation and all that was gained and more lost… with the Power Safety Power Shutoffs making generators a hot commodity.

Oakland had finally turned the corner after decades of decline… really sad turn of events…

Bottom line is anything valuable like a portable generator must be secured otherwise it will grow feet…

My portables are on 6 month rotation and going back to 1990 ok except for the Honda in the service van… the temp extreme fluctuations pulling in moisture laden air probably finished off the carb…

 

[JRH02]

Purposely flood your country with illegals from countries considered 3rd world countries, and we become like that 3rd world country.
Is there anything surprising about that?

And you live around there?

 

[DarkBlack]

And you live around there?

NO!

 

[JRH02]

NO!

Bwahh hahhh.

 

[DarkBlack]

Bwahh hahhh.

Do you have a point, or just feeling cocky?

 

[3930dave]

I have no interest in getting this thread closed.

I do like wide-ranging discussion (in the real-world) on many topics, but on here:

If you want to deeply go into what I'll call "Social" issues:

A) PM away, as you will.

B) Setup your own thread on these ^ topics, in the relevant forum.

This thread is closing in on 1MM views, and has been quite useful to many. Let's target 2MM next, please.

Rgds, D.