Yanmar YM1510D – Front Wheel Assist Not Working

   / Yanmar YM1510D – Front Wheel Assist Not Working #21  
Update:

Thanks again, everyone, for all your help so far. It’s been reassuring to know that I can ask questions here and get such thoughtful advice.

I was working on my tractor again today and wanted to share what I’ve found:
  • I removed the left axle cover to check for stripped gears—so far, nothing looks destroyed in there.
  • I pulled the driveshaft, and the lower U-joint looks a bit scuffed up. It’s not completely broken, but I think I’ll go ahead and replace it.
  • One thing I’m still debating: On the front differential, where the driveshaft connects—if I spin that input gear, I would expect the axle spindles to turn. However, they’re not.
  • Looking behind the left plate, I can see a gear spinning, so something is moving internally.
My main question now: Is there some sort of clutch or mechanism in the front differential that engages the wheels? If so, I’d like to understand how it’s supposed to work so I can troubleshoot more effectively.

So far, I’m encouraged not to have found any completely destroyed gears—just the chippedView attachment 3884820View attachment 3884821View attachment 3884822 gear I posted about earlier and the U-joint that needs replacing. If anyone can help me identify how this front differential functions, I’d really appreciate it.

Thanks again for all the guidance.

— Matthew
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   / Yanmar YM1510D – Front Wheel Assist Not Working
  • Thread Starter
#22  
I originally thought I could buy the U joint replacements from brand M parts, but it looks like it’s just some of the components. The part that looks worn on mine is the part that attaches to the input drive for the front differential. I don’t know if replacing those roll pins would help. On that input drive it looked like it was a slotted for a key however the U joint didn’t seem to match that key. I don’t know if the key portion would’ve got worn off, either way the input drive is not spinning the axle drives as I would have expected.
 
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   / Yanmar YM1510D – Front Wheel Assist Not Working #25  
Long video but might be worth your time.
Winston, amazing video, thanks for posting. This goes into all kinds of details for the 4WD system. I learned a bunch from this, even though I have 2WD.

Yanmar made the system rather easy, not difficult. (y)
 
   / Yanmar YM1510D – Front Wheel Assist Not Working #26  
Agree 100%. Good clear and STEADY video, good audio, and a great presenter, and well worth my time to enjoy watching. Well done Dr.
 
   / Yanmar YM1510D – Front Wheel Assist Not Working
  • Thread Starter
#27  
Thanks again for all the help so far—it’s been a huge benefit having this forum to turn to.

We spent more time on the tractor and ended up tearing into the front differential. The good news: we found no damage at all to the gears inside. That’s encouraging.

What seems to be the underlying issue is that the roll pin (shear pin) on the lower U-joint may have been the problem all along. I’ll be replacing that. You can see the sheared pin and before and after.
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I was surprised that the roll pin is carrying all that torque to those front wheels, but I suppose an engineer was thinking let’s make the fail point be a cheap piece to replace and easy to access (little did that engineer know I’d still rip apart the entire tractor!! 😂)

Reassembly & Oil Questions
  1. Oil flow for U-joint & driveshaft
    • I know how to get oil into the lower differential, but how do I get oil into the U-joint with its housing?
    • For the upper U-joint and housing—does that oil also flow down the driveshaft? Or is it isolated?
  2. Gear oil
    • What oil do you recommend for the gears in this model? Any specific type/weight?
  3. Gaskets
    • For reassembly, should I order new gaskets (do they even exist) or just make my own?
    • If making my own, what gasket material works best here?
    • Should I use any silicone or sealant in addition to the gasket material? If so, what type?
I’ll try to post a couple of photos of the roll pin area and the U-joint in case that helps confirm what I’m seeing.

Thanks again for all your help—this has been a great learning experience so far.

Also, in the previous post, I mentioned that the input drive for the gearbox would spin but the axle wouldn’t spin. Turns out the reason for that is because I had the left axle hub off, which presses the differential gear into the helix gear. Just thought you guys would get a good laugh out of that bit of user error.

Thanks again for all the guidance—this has been a great learning experience so far. I’ll order some new parts and hope to have a concluding post in 2 weeks or so.
 
   / Yanmar YM1510D – Front Wheel Assist Not Working #28  
Where Yanmar makes a lot of the smaller John Deere tractors, if you have a Yanmar part number, most likely the JD dealer can cross reference the part numbers and get one out of their warehouses. Your gonna pay more for it, but a parked tractor isn't worth much. I have crossed several JD parts to Yanmar parts to buy cheaper, but if the cheaper isn't available, then I had to suck it up and buy the JD part.
 
   / Yanmar YM1510D – Front Wheel Assist Not Working #29  
Thanks again for all the help so far—it’s been a huge benefit having this forum to turn to.

We spent more time on the tractor and ended up tearing into the front differential. The good news: we found no damage at all to the gears inside. That’s encouraging.

What seems to be the underlying issue is that the roll pin (shear pin) on the lower U-joint may have been the problem all along. I’ll be replacing that. You can see the sheared pin and before and after.
View attachment 3885664View attachment 3885665View attachment 3885666

I was surprised that the roll pin is carrying all that torque to those front wheels, but I suppose an engineer was thinking let’s make the fail point be a cheap piece to replace and easy to access (little did that engineer know I’d still rip apart the entire tractor!! 😂)

Reassembly & Oil Questions
  1. Oil flow for U-joint & driveshaft
    • I know how to get oil into the lower differential, but how do I get oil into the U-joint with its housing?
    • For the upper U-joint and housing—does that oil also flow down the driveshaft? Or is it isolated?
  2. Gear oil
    • What oil do you recommend for the gears in this model? Any specific type/weight?
  3. Gaskets
    • For reassembly, should I order new gaskets (do they even exist) or just make my own?
    • If making my own, what gasket material works best here?
    • Should I use any silicone or sealant in addition to the gasket material? If so, what type?
I’ll try to post a couple of photos of the roll pin area and the U-joint in case that helps confirm what I’m seeing.

Thanks again for all your help—this has been a great learning experience so far.

Also, in the previous post, I mentioned that the input drive for the gearbox would spin but the axle wouldn’t spin. Turns out the reason for that is because I had the left axle hub off, which presses the differential gear into the helix gear. Just thought you guys would get a good laugh out of that bit of user error.

Thanks again for all the guidance—this has been a great learning experience so far. I’ll order some new parts and hope to have a concluding post in 2 weeks or so.
My overrun clutch is setup with a pin and hard to see or get to for that matter. You have to line the outside to the Pin on the PTO.. My FM 95% of the time so never have to remove it! If I did it would be spring loaded so I could remove it easy. Old and new if I was going to remove it. The Yanmar RS1400 Tiller you couldn't use either. Yanmar PTO shaft was way to long. BTDT...

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Gear oil
  • What oil do you recommend for the gears in this model? Any specific type/weight?
Some use oil and some use grease. The manuals call for the old school GL4 80W90.

Unless you have a time machine, GL4 is a rare thing to find anymore. And GL5 is not all that great.
What you can do, upgrade to 75W90 synthetic. Shop around for a good deal.

Example,

Menards is 1/2 the price for the Pennzoil vs the Mobil for 75W90.
 

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