eBay/Craigslist wow- ****** out there

[shownuff]

REALLY???

 

[xtn]

I'm afraid I don't get the whole "insulted by a lowball" thing.

If someone offers me half of what something is worth, I just say no. I don't find any personal insult involved. It's not like he told me my mother combat boots. He just offered me a deal. The fact that I don't like the deal does not mean the offer was an insult.

xtn

 

[SPYDERLK]

Thread has been pruned to remove offensive language.

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[RoyJackson]

So I have my MF GC2300 for sale on Craigslist- guy comes out to look at it and says he's interested and that he will think about it...so he calls me up and says that he can buy a new one for less than I bought mine new and for only 1k more than I am asking for it now...I checked the online equipment houses and my price is spot on if not a little low for the hours (2004-2005 model with only 189.5 hours) and with a FEL, custom toothbar, and 3 lift hooks...

Although I understand your frustration, sellers do have to be realistic in their expectations...maybe you aren't.
The "custom" toothbar and bucket hooks aren't worth much. They might get a buyer to look...but, they would add no value to your tractor if you tried to trade.
Also, like it or not...your tractor is 7 years old.

My sales guy (sells Deeres at a local dealer) told me implements (in general) are worth about 50% of their cost as soon as you drive off the lot...that's true too. I have 4 implements (RFM, Cutter, Ballast Box, and chipper)...all bought used except for the rotary cutter. All were in excellent condition and I paid less then 50% of retail (new) price for each.

I suggest you contact your dealer and ask what he'd give you on trade in for for your Massey-Ferguson. That might be a more realistic selling price.

 

[tractchores]

I'm on CL right now with a rental home... maybe 1 in 10 will keep an appointment and everyone asks what is the least I will take.

Not blaming CL... just seems lots of flaky people have computers...

One called this morning... works for the city and said she would be there at 12:30 to see it.

I called her at 11:45 to let her know I was on my way and she said she was going to look at another one and if it didn't work out... she would get back to me... typical from me CL experiences.

Generally... I will post 2 days ahead my open house hours... those that come... fine and at least I'm not wasting my time on no shows.

As to price concessions... I reply be asking if they have a problem paying the advertised rent... if I like what I hear I will tell them they can take $50 off as long as the rent is in my hand by the 5th of each month.

It's a good strategy to schedule a bunch in a block or at the same time on CL. I find that about 50% are no-shows when I rent my units and so I schedule them in 15 minute increments all over a few hours and it usually works out well. i also find a reminder call the day before puts the no show rate down to about 30%

 

[LD1]

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[Canada_CT230]

What I don't get here is....

Why is the 3 asterisks and the word 'hole' are offensive language.

I had one of my threads "pruned" for using the actual word "bleeping" in the title.

I think the censorship here is a little excessive.

I don't really think small children are on this forum and I don't think that asterisked words are going to make them go off using those words.

Just my two bits.

 

[LD1]

What I don't get here is....

Why is the 3 asterisks and the word 'hole' are offensive language.

I had one of my threads "pruned" for using the actual word "bleeping" in the title.

I think the censorship here is a little excessive.

I don't really think small children are on this forum and I don't think that asterisked words are going to make them go off using those words.

Just my two bits.

I agree. One of my posts is the one that was removed via "pruning".

I dont remember exactally what I wrote, but I dont recall saying anyting offensive and I certainly didnt use any foul language. And it all stemmed from someone saying a term ( I cant say what it is) but that term in our area means to haggle someone over price. But in the other countries it is a religion.

A little frustrating but it is what it is. I try to play nice here on TBN But certain times, certain posts just rub me the wrong way if you know what I mean.

 

[brin]

I have not read every post in this whole thread but I think I have the jest of it..

I find it really offensive when I am selling something and someone offers me substantially less than I am asking..you have to go by the body language that goes along with it..I just say " Forget about it " and I walk away when that happens....It is insulting...I especially dislike the ones that offer you less over the phone before they come and even see what you are selling...They seem to not consider the time the seller takes to talk to them, wait for them to show up and then show them the item.

Courtesy and graciousness has been lost in large part.

 

[two_bit_score]

I have not read every post in this whole thread but I think I have the jest of it..

I find it really offensive when I am selling something and someone offers me substantially less than I am asking..you have to go by the body language that goes along with it..I just say " Forget about it " and I walk away when that happens....It is insulting...I especially dislike the ones that offer you less over the phone before they come and even see what you are selling...They seem to not consider the time the seller takes to talk to them, wait for them to show up and then show them the item.

Courtesy and graciousness has been lost in large part.

Everybody is going to take things differently and even differently from different people. With some people no matter what I say they will be offended. Same people would take the same comment just fine coming from someone else.

Everybody probably knows a guy who can 'say anything to anybody' and get away with it.

I learned a trick from an old car dealer a long time ago. When he was making an offer to somebody he always said, " I would be a buyer at $XX".

Never said 'its worth $XX' or "I'll give you $xx".

Seems to work.



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[Bird]

I find it really offensive when I am selling something and someone offers me substantially less than I am asking..you have to go by the body language that goes along with it..I just say " Forget about it " and I walk away when that happens....It is insulting...I especially dislike the ones that offer you less over the phone before they come and even see what you are selling.

If you get insulted and walk away, you may have just missed a sale. When I sold my last tractor, a guy came to look and then told me a dealer had offered to sell him a new one for less than I was asking for the used one. Instead of ending the conversation, I just asked, "Where is this dealer. I'll take 2 of them at that price." I think he realized how silly his comment had been, and he bought my tractor.:laughing: If they offer less over the phone before coming, maybe they have a limit on what they'll spend, so it saves you and them time if they don't come look first.

 

[MasseyWV]

When I sold my last tractor, a guy came to look and then told me a dealer had offered to sell him a new one for less than I was asking for the used one. Instead of ending the conversation, I just asked, "Where is this dealer. I'll take 2 of them at that price." I think he realized how silly his comment had been, and he bought my tractor.

When I am buying/selling something, I always assume one thing above all else... sellers/buyers are liars.

 

[SPYDERLK]

The mods are very responsive!

To what?
larry

 

[Bird]

When I am buying/selling something, I always assume one thing above all else... sellers/buyers are liars.

Well, I don't go quite that far, but maybe close. Before I bought my first Kubota, the B7100, I had visited 4 different dealers looking at what they had and asking questions. One of the dealers wanted to buy my motorhome and wanted me to sell it way too cheap. And he said he'd sell me the B7100 at his cost. When I asked how much that would be, it was higher than any of the other 3 dealers I'd talked to.:laughing: I guess those other 3 dealers must have all been selling at a loss.

I sometimes do so price haggling, whether buying or selling, but most of the time I don't really care to do that. Once I made up my mind that I wanted a B7100 with FEL and knew exactly what I wanted, I simply called each of the dealers, told them exactly what I wanted and asked what was the best deal they could give me; no haggling, no discussion. I just bought from the one who gave me the best price. He also happened to be in the best location if I needed anything else.

 

[ultrarunner]

Well, I don't go quite that far, but maybe close. Before I bought my first Kubota, the B7100, I had visited 4 different dealers looking at what they had and asking questions. One of the dealers wanted to buy my motorhome and wanted me to sell it way too cheap. And he said he'd sell me the B7100 at his cost. When I asked how much that would be, it was higher than any of the other 3 dealers I'd talked to.:laughing: I guess those other 3 dealers must have all been selling at a loss.

I sometimes do so price haggling, whether buying or selling, but most of the time I don't really care to do that. Once I made up my mind that I wanted a B7100 with FEL and knew exactly what I wanted, I simply called each of the dealers, told them exactly what I wanted and asked what was the best deal they could give me; no haggling, no discussion. I just bought from the one who gave me the best price. He also happened to be in the best location if I needed anything else.

When I was set to order the only new car I have ever bought... I knew exactly what I wanted and how much I was willing to pay... to make me a buyer.

There are 5 dealers withing a 20 mile radius and I called each of them, asked for their European Delivery guy and then faxed over my configuration and the price that would make me a buyer...

One acted like I was trying to steel the food from his table... another couldn't be bothered, two more told me they could have me in the car tonight and picking it up in Europe take months to schedule... they also wanted a lot more.

The fifth Dealership called me to let me know he had received my Fax and said he had two appointments and asked if he could call me back in two hours... I said that would be fine, expecting not to hear back.

Two hours later he calls, we discuss my Fax and the time frame and said he can do it with a deposit on my credit card... The transaction was exactly as planned... no surprises and the least effort...

I sent him several customers a year after that because he is honest and will give you a yes or no and not waste your time... IF you know exactly what you want.

Even in new cars in the same region... the price can vary by thousands... I save $7,000 in my purchase and the car was built exactly the way I wanted and it was lots of fun picking it up at the factory and driving the Autobahn...

Like the other poster said... I would be a buyer at this price...

 

[EE_Bota]

If you get insulted and walk away, you may have just missed a sale. When I sold my last tractor, a guy came to look and then told me a dealer had offered to sell him a new one for less than I was asking for the used one. Instead of ending the conversation, I just asked, "Where is this dealer. I'll take 2 of them at that price." I think he realized how silly his comment had been, and he bought my tractor.:laughing: If they offer less over the phone before coming, maybe they have a limit on what they'll spend, so it saves you and them time if they don't come look first.

You took "talk" as an inexpensive form of communication, not a punch in the gut.

 

[EE_Bota]

When I was set to order the only new car I have ever bought... I knew exactly what I wanted and how much I was willing to pay... to make me a buyer.

There are 5 dealers withing a 20 mile radius and I called each of them, asked for their European Delivery guy and then faxed over my configuration and the price that would make me a buyer...

One acted like I was trying to steel the food from his table... another couldn't be bothered, two more told me they could have me in the car tonight and picking it up in Europe take months to schedule... they also wanted a lot more.

The fifth Dealership called me to let me know he had received my Fax and said he had two appointments and asked if he could call me back in two hours... I said that would be fine, expecting not to hear back.

Two hours later he calls, we discuss my Fax and the time frame and said he can do it with a deposit on my credit card... The transaction was exactly as planned... no surprises and the least effort...

I sent him several customers a year after that because he is honest and will give you a yes or no and not waste your time... IF you know exactly what you want.

Even in new cars in the same region... the price can vary by thousands... I save $7,000 in my purchase and the car was built exactly the way I wanted and it was lots of fun picking it up at the factory and driving the Autobahn...

Like the other poster said... I would be a buyer at this price...

I did a miniature version of that. I though about my desire for a VW diesel truck, and my upcoming vacation, and went on Ebay to find trucks from anywhere in the US, instead of near home. I saw the one I wanted, and called the guy, convinced him I was a man of my word, he convinced me he was too, and that the truck would surely get me home. He held it for 3 weeks, picked me up at the airport, and launched me on my 1 week tour of the everything between St. Louis and home.

I think I am going to adopt that phrase "I would be a buyer at this price." You are the second to suggest it, it says what I say in many more words, but very cleanly.

 

[ultrarunner]

Often it's not so much what is said... but, how it is said.

I always try to be very Diplomatic when I have my Lemon Law Arbitrator's had on and will give a lot of leeway to making sure each party is heard... don't want anyone to leave with the impression they didn't have enough time to state their case...

Even my new car buying experience shows "Professionals" vary in their ability or desire to listen to what a buyer has in mind.

As Bird pointed out... sometimes all that is needed to make a looker a buyer is a little education...

About the only people I have little use for are those individuals where their word is meaningless... if you ask me to wait for you... show up on time. If we agree on terms... honor them... etc.

 

[Bird]

About the only people I have little use for are those individuals where their word is meaningless... if you ask me to wait for you... show up on time.

Yep, in my lifetime I've been responsible for hiring some people and for dealing with vendors. And if a job applicant showed up late for an interview, or a salesman had an appointment and showed up late, they were just wasting their time.