Would it be for me?

[aesanders]

I guess you couldn't attack me for being a new guy like Efreet, but simply say I'm wrong. I think Efreet had a pretty accurate take about the "Jehovah's Witnesses of 2520".

I'll leave it at that...

 

[Chris2520]

I guess you couldn't attack me for being a new guy like Efreet, but simply say I'm wrong. I think Efreet had a pretty accurate take about the "Jehovah's Witnesses of 2520".

I'll leave it at that...

I dont want to attack anyone.
your the one attacking me.
I spent my extra 2500$ cause i wanted more Tractor
your the one haveing a hard time with it. not me.
I just tell it like it is.

Nuff Said.....

 

[aesanders]

Not attacking anyone!! How about this comment you made...


********Wow , I just saw this Micky Mouse comment...
from some new guy who has not helped anyone..

it dont even deserve a reply..********************


Your whopping 2 month longer on the board really make you the cat's meow of all posters. And I can almost bet that if we removed all posts by you that bragged about the 2520, then you would have less posts the Efreet.

Fact of the matter is I can really care less about what tractor you have. And the whopping $2500 it cost more than my tractor (my dealer only charges about 1k more). They are both fine tractors. I just try to give my 2 cents to the original posters question about 1.5 to 2 acre lawn. Do you honestly think by that question the 2520 is the best tractor for him? Now since he added that he had foundations to dig etc. the recomendations might change with more knowledge. But from what was originally asked, the 2520 would not be the machine that I, or just about any dealer for that matter, would recomend for that particular task.

 

[jcmseven]

I would like to get back onto higher ground on this thread. I have found that matters of perception are impossible to argue. My dad just bought a new pickup which he let me drive the other day. I thought it was enormously better driving than his 2002 model which he traded in, yet he thinks it is "about the same." Same applies with tractors. Specifically in this instance the 2320 and the 2520. As I noted in my earlier posting, I am not a fan of the Limited Cat 1 hitch, but otherwise I like the 2305. The 2320 to me is a good deal as it has heavier frame and transaxle and a full cat one hitch, which I think makes it. To go to a 2520 will get one more hydraulic capacity and a longer wheelbase and some more weight, larger tires and a direct injected diesel. Some like that additional stuff, some don't. For me personally, the 2520 runs too close in price to a 3120 to not consider that machine over it, but for many a 2520 is a perfect machine. If I were looking compact though, I think the 2320 is quite capable, especially for a two acre or so plot.

John M

 

[Chris2520]

Not attacking anyone!! How about this comment you made...


********Wow , I just saw this Micky Mouse comment...
from some new guy who has not helped anyone..

it dont even deserve a reply..********************


Your whopping 2 month longer on the board really make you the cat's meow of all posters. And I can almost bet that if we removed all posts by you that bragged about the 2520, then you would have less posts the Efreet.

Fact of the matter is I can really care less about what tractor you have. And the whopping $2500 it cost more than my tractor (my dealer only charges about 1k more). They are both fine tractors. I just try to give my 2 cents to the original posters question about 1.5 to 2 acre lawn. Do you honestly think by that question the 2520 is the best tractor for him? Now since he added that he had foundations to dig etc. the recomendations might change with more knowledge. But from what was originally asked, the 2520 would not be the machine that I, or just about any dealer for that matter, would recomend for that particular task.

Personaly , you like to argue. or rather yet run that mouth.
i simply tell people what i have done with the tractor.
so i know what it can do. I run it everyday. people ask
i tell them. if thay want to listen fine. if not thats fine to,
your the one that wants to make it a debate. and say there
is no difference in the tractors. when i know there is.
and i will put my money where my mouth is. i am in marietta
GA you bring your 2320. and we will hook to a plow or whatever you want .
i will out pull you i will out lift you front or back. or any other thing you wish to do. any work task you choose. and we will end this once and for all. Now call my bluff Slick. and i should be able to. thats what makes this whole conversation stupid. cause its more tractor. not better just more power and size.
and i dont think i can . I know i can. i am not going to make this offer with someone with a 3520 . cause i know i cant do it. so there is no need saying i can. as for posts. i have helped alot of people. some people even bought tractors because of my discussions. i went and read your posts.
in your 500 posts. you have helped hardly anyone to amount to anything.
simply your opinions. what is that. all i told people were facts i have done.
like i said i just tell it like it is. if that bothers you dont read it.
you think whenever there is a discussion with a 2320 and 2520 in it
if someone says anything about a 2520. you think there bashing a 2320
I am not. i think its a nice tractor. if its the size and performance you need.
thats great i am happy with that. and you want to tell everyone there is no difference. well there is a whole lot of 2520 owners on this board that would not agree with you. and i am only one. go argue with someone else. i dont have time for this crap.

Good Night..

 

[ducati996]

I guess you couldn't attack me for being a new guy like Efreet, but simply say I'm wrong. I think Efreet had a pretty accurate take about the "Jehovah's Witnesses of 2520".

I'll leave it at that...

Aesanders - Efreet made an insulting comment which was uncalled for - and yes Chris2520 is very ethusiastic in his machine - and so are you with yours.
I will say you have always been very defensive in regards to the 2320 - we had some differences of opinions on this very same subject in the past. Its an old tiring subject which isnt worth fighting about and causing any lasting negative effects. I find it perfectly ok to disagree on this very subject! as long as it keeps the peace - correct?

I find Chris's post on his modifications and accomplishments one of the best ever offered to date on this board. It provides actual results in which someone can actually make a accurate decision from -
I also find your input helpful as well and hope that some type of peaceful co-existance can be found here

Duc

 

[ducati996]

Im wondering if a john deere 2520 Would be a good tractor for about 1.5 - 2.0 acers of home/lawn??? We haven't built our new house yet but in the next few year we will be. but does anyone know if there will be any newer tractors that will be like the 2520 but a little more "updated" ???? Lemme know

I think we can sum up this thread - touch base in a few years after your house is built to see what new machines are available - nobody can predict what will be available then

 

[GordNovo]

So has anyone test driven the new B26?

 

[Efreet]

Aesanders - Efreet made an insulting comment which was uncalled for - and yes Chris2520 is very ethusiastic in his machine - and so are you with yours.

Well, I certainly seemed to have stirred up some emotional responses. Truth be told, I wrote my comments in a very much tongue-in-cheek manner, hence the after the "Jehovah's Witnesses of 2520" comment (and I very rarely use a smiley). But Chris2520, are you desperately trying to prove me right? Your defensive responses, and the clearly unsubstantiated claims of "night and day" differences between models as close as the 2320 and 2520 make me think that I did not really need to employ that smiley after all, and the choice of your particular tractor model is really a matter of religious faith for you.

As far as being a n00b, you are right, I am. On the score of "he has not helped anyone", and therefore I do not deserve a voice, I can say that I am trying. Among my few posts I uploaded scanned technical data from Deere on the backhoe / MMM attachment differences between the 2320 and 2520 tractors, which helped several people clear up a confusing difference between these models. And I can promise that as long as I am a "n00b" I will reserve any voice of authority to things that I can back up with hard technical data, and not just blow smoke out of my @$$.

Will you please join me in doing the same?

 

[Chris2520]

I sure dont want to fuss about any of this.
and that was never my intention. and yes i will defend what i believe.
as far as technical data. I have never told anyone any information
that i had not tried and done for my self. i feel operating a machine.
and seeing the results , is alot more accurate that reading a peace of paper.
witch i express. and that seems to bother some. for that i am sorry.
but i just state the facts. I dont want to debate this subject anymore.
its a useless discussion. i opoligize it got out of hand. we are suppose to come here and relax and enjoy . and share our experences and love for tractors. lets just get back to that. may everyone be happy with the machine thay choose. i have nothing ferther to add.
lets just move on.

Chris...

 

[ducati996]

Well, I certainly seemed to have stirred up some emotional responses. Truth be told, I wrote my comments in a very much tongue-in-cheek manner, hence the after the "Jehovah's Witnesses of 2520" comment (and I very rarely use a smiley). But Chris2520, are you desperately trying to prove me right? Your defensive responses, and the clearly unsubstantiated claims of "night and day" differences between models as close as the 2320 and 2520 make me think that I did not really need to employ that smiley after all, and the choice of your particular tractor model is really a matter of religious faith for you.

As far as being a n00b, you are right, I am. On the score of "he has not helped anyone", and therefore I do not deserve a voice, I can say that I am trying. Among my few posts I uploaded scanned technical data from Deere on the backhoe / MMM attachment differences between the 2320 and 2520 tractors, which helped several people clear up a confusing difference between these models. And I can promise that as long as I am a "n00b" I will reserve any voice of authority to things that I can back up with hard technical data, and not just blow smoke out of my @$$.

Will you please join me in doing the same?

Just for clarification I didnt call you a noob (how am i to know that?) Only that your comments were somewhat uncalled for in which they were presented to Chris2520 - but be that as it may everybody is just too sensitive about their manhood its too **** funny - (look a smiley)

But on a serious note: I find it a rarity on this board when actually someone who owns the machine(s) give unbiased reviews, so when it does happen I personally like to hear what they are saying. Thats how we all learn.
But I will give you the real skinny as to why I unloaded my 2320 for a 2520. I was looking for a replacement for my 2000 JD 4100 (replaced by the 4110) because it was a gear unit, and the HST was a must for the direction I was going into. It was supposed to replace the 4110 series in everyway, but it didnt (as i found out first hand). It was a total step back in performance IMO. The hydrolics were not there (compared to the 4100-4110), PTO wasnt noticably improved, and the hydrolic speed was ridiculous (again compared to the 4100-4110). Engine Rev speed is way to high for my liking (for diesels), and I really hated it - all the power of the motor is on the Top end in the rev's, and the PTO rated speed to just way too high. It was a buzzy machine from that after a while.
Now I will take some of the blame in going by what was in printed specification wise and without seeing or using the machine prior to the sale (never a model in stock to do that), going just by blind faith that it would be at the same level as my 4100 was. I was wrong and I almost paid dearly for it. I immediately contacted my dealer (an ace by the way), and told him to find me the next model up (2520). In the meantime I was forced to use the 2320 for the tasks I needed done (keeping the hours to a minimum of course) until the 2520 came in. We swapped out machines and I brought it home. Keep in mind I was up until this point comparing what i had to the benchmark of what I traded in (4100). When I got the 2520 into action and similar tasks that even the 2320 did just the day before (and the 4100 for years), you just knew the performance was by far exceed in any of the prior benchmarks that I had. It was just different, a much stronger & faster feel overall from the machine. I think I can describe it as finding an extra $1000 dollars laying around - its enough to say wow, its that much of a noticable difference -
I find that not everybody has a level of expectation or performance benchmark already set in their mind (like I did). For most, these machines are their first time buy, so they either dont know what they have, or what they lost (if they never had it) - does this make sense? So its all new to them and everything is great - as it should be and it does what is asked of them. Again these machines are capable and will do what they were designed to do. Question is what are your own expectations or benchmarks that you would like to see from this machine? If you dont have any then maybe thats a good thing because you might not be so exacting -
Now of course there will be those who profoundly disagree regarding the difference between the two machines. Ok so be it, I have nothing to gain, loose or profit by offering a real side by side evaluation. I put enough hours on the 2320 that it should have been considered used when i gave it back -

Duc

 

[aesanders]

Chris, I apologize for singleing you out. I know you really like your machine. And just so you know I have nothing against the 2520 look at this thread (1 of many) which I suggested the poster to get a 2520. I just call out the recomendations as I see it.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/jd-buying-pricing/100794-ideal-jd-these-chores.html


As for my experience with a 2520, I had a loaner for a week as my dealer was so slow getting me my 2320 last summer. The 2320 had just come out and I waited about 6 weeks to get one. I couldn't wait as the grass was getting over three feet long around the house and my Simplcity mower was 1000 miles away in Maryland. From my take I didn't really notice all the difference that Duc did. My experiences with tractors had all been with much larger machines so they both felt limiting in my book. I have had 3 different Case 580 backhoe models, a large Cat loader, a Volvo loader an old Hough loader just to start. Against these machines that I was familiar with, both the 2320 and 2520 felt like toys to me. But I have been constantly amazed at all the things I have been able to get done with the 2320. It's a very useful tool and wouldn't be without it. It suits my small farm to a tee and really couldn't ask for anything more. Maybe now that I am more use to the 2320 I would notice all the power difference in the 2520, but really I don't think I need anymore juice.

 

[Chris2520]

apology accepted , Please accept mine.
I never wanted this to turn into a mud slinging match.
I think we all made our points. so lets all get back to being
Friends and enjoying our tractors...

Chris.....

 

[ducati996]

As for my experience with a 2520, I had a loaner for a week as my dealer was so slow getting me my 2320 last summer. The 2320 had just come out and I waited about 6 weeks to get one. I couldn't wait as the grass was getting over three feet long around the house and my Simplcity mower was 1000 miles away in Maryland. From my take I didn't really notice all the difference that Duc did.

This is the first Im hearing that you actually used the 2520 for a period of time (loaner), while your 2320 was on order. We have been debating this subject ad nauseum for quite a while and on different forums, and this is the first time I now hear of it. I truly hope you didnt just mention it as a way to support and validate your opinion, more out of convenience and not out of truth. The difference with what I say is I have two entirely different sales agreements and such with purchase prices, signed etc...with delivery dates for both machines.

Duc

 

[aesanders]

This is the first Im hearing that you actually used the 2520 for a period of time (loaner), while your 2320 was on order. We have been debating this subject ad nauseum for quite a while and on different forums, and this is the first time I now hear of it. I truly hope you didnt just mention it as a way to support and validate your opinion, more out of convenience and not out of truth. The difference with what I say is I have two entirely different sales agreements and such with purchase prices, signed etc...with delivery dates for both machines.

Duc

Duc,

I've always stated that I've used both machines. It's not like weve debated this issue that much.. Call my dealer if you don't believe me. Greensouth Equipment in Gainesville. They are on the web. Talk to any salesman their, as they all know me. I was thinking of buying one prior to the 2320 as the 2320 hadn't been released into production yet. You rmember all the delays. I think we were both one of the first to get a 2320. The delaer had a 2520 that had something like 50 hours on it that had been traded in on something larger and they brought it out for a demo as we hadn't finalzed the deal on the 2320 yet. Also brought one of their rental 3 pt mower that I was able to get the grass and weeds knocked down. This was during the time I was still moving to Florida from Maryland. We actually bought the house in May but did not move in until late August. Unlike the Mid Atlantic where the grass goes dormant in the middle of the heat in Summer, the grass continually grows and grows in Florida. It only got mowed one time in the middle of summer and that was by a 2520.

Anything else you want to know?

 

[ducati996]

the clearly unsubstantiated claims of "night and day" differences between models as close as the 2320 and 2520

This part is noticable between the models, very noticable

the 2520 develops 27% more engine torque than the 2320, at lower speed:
51.3 ft-lbs (2520)
40.3 ft-lbs (2320)

 

[ducati996]

Duc,

I've always stated that I've used both machines. It's not like weve debated this issue that much.. Call my dealer if you don't believe me. Greensouth Equipment in Gainesville. They are on the web. Talk to any salesman their, as they all know me. I was thinking of buying one prior to the 2320 as the 2320 hadn't been released into production yet. You rmember all the delays. I think we were both one of the first to get a 2320. The delaer had a 2520 that had something like 50 hours on it that had been traded in on something larger and they brought it out for a demo as we hadn't finalzed the deal on the 2320 yet. Also brought one of their rental 3 pt mower that I was able to get the grass and weeds knocked down. This was during the time I was still moving to Florida from Maryland. We actually bought the house in May but did not move in until late August. Unlike the Mid Atlantic where the grass goes dormant in the middle of the heat in Summer, the grass continually grows and grows in Florida. It only got mowed one time in the middle of summer and that was by a 2520.

Anything else you want to know?

I dunno what to think now aesanders for example in this thread in post #5
I would have to interpret things much differently, and yet again no mention of a 2520

http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=31724

Duc

 

[unreconstructed]

I am not an engineer or tractor techno and cannot speak to the 2520/2320 debate.

I have a 5203 and plan to get my Dad's 1850 Oliver running so I have two tractors for heavier applications. I bought a 2320 to round out the stable and have found I use the thing for doing chores my 57 year old back no longer wants to do (unloading bags of portland cement/ toting stuff around etc etc) in addition to mowing with the belly mower. I usually mow the yard with the LT 133, but on occasion I use the 2320--it does a creditable job.

I think the machine is certainly more than what one might need on 2 acres on technical merits, but if you do a lot of your own work, you will use it more than you think. I have been pushing wheelbarrows and using the shovel and grubbing hoe for years. Worked pretty good when I was 40, but no more.

So my view, whether you go 2320 or 2520, indulge yourself with a CUT. You will have a lot of fun and your knees and back will love you in middle age (and later).

I picked the 2320 over the 2305 for the full cat 1 hitch.

That's my 2 bits. No disrespect intended to any of the previous posters.

g.e. bates

 

[Staghead]

Something else to consider is that if you want to use the 2320/2520 on lawn or anyplace else you don't want "tracks" is the weight difference in the machines. I was told by the dealer that the difference in weight between the 2520 and 2320 is actually more than the spec sheet lists (another "error"?). I thought I remember reading that on here as well in a thread. If you are using it to mow that could be a big deal and may lead you to a 2320. I don't know this for a fact, but you may want to check that further if weight is a concern.

Again my use is as a tractor (the extra weight is probably good) so it wasn't a deciding factor.

 

[aesanders]

I dunno what to think now aesanders for example in this thread in post #5
I would have to interpret things much differently, and yet again no mention of a 2520

http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=31724

Duc

Well your a good sleuth Duc, but not that great.

If you re-read that thread posted on MTF in September last year you will realize I said my back 3 acres was no touched during the summer. I have a total of 6.5 acres. My property is split in the middle by a creek bed. The fornt is in pretty good shape with pasture and lawn with some weeds. The back was mostly weeds and brush and I never started messing with it till september last year. I just recently got it planted. Still have a lot of work to do as I am fencing it etc. I never disclosed the fact that I had a neighbor come disc it up for me after I finished ripping out all the brush and trees and boxblades the whole thing removing roots etc. I planted it with a cone spreader I recently purchased and spread pensacola bahia grass on it. Not sure if I ever disclosed that either.

Maybe since in that post I just didn't feel like it was relevent that I had tried out a 2520 earlier in the summer.

Fact is a cannot remeber the dates all that well last year. Sometime in early May i put an offer in on the property I purchased. Sometime in late May I closed on the property. Around that same time I visited Greensouth an told them what I was interested in. I didn't actually move into the house until Lat August, but did make 3-4 trips down during the summer. One of which Greensouth let me try out a 2520.

For your info I also tried out a B2630 and B3030 (not at my house) and couldn't tell much difference in them either.

I tried killing this subject with my apology and even specified that if I tried them longer like you had I might be able to tell the difference like you have.

Maybe you could keep sleuthing and try digging up more dirt.

I dunno Duc, I traced my ancestry back to Georgia in the late 1600's. Maybe you could tell me where they came from in Scotland if you are really good.