Winter fuel protect
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big e
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Yer not baking a cake.
Toss one and a half oz. in there and go have a beer.
Those stabilizer product manufactures usually want you to mix their product with a small amount of fuel (like a gallon), and shake it up to mix. THEN add the rest of the fuel to your can, or tank. Same as two stoke oil. Don't just pour the product in the full fuel can... won't mix well.
Toss one and a half oz. in there and go have a beer.
Those stabilizer product manufactures usually want you to mix their product with a small amount of fuel (like a gallon), and shake it up to mix. THEN add the rest of the fuel to your can, or tank. Same as two stoke oil. Don't just pour the product in the full fuel can... won't mix well.
big e
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Not to be too precise after kidding you about being too precise, BUT, it is suggested to add the gallon (or whatever) of fuel to the empty can, THEN the stabilizer, shake, THEN the rest of the fuel. Probably to get a better mix and keep the product from adhering to the dry can bottom/sides.
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I mix it like this :
55 gallon drum 32 ounces.
30 gallon drum 16 ounces.
5 gallon can 3 ounces.
flyingcow
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Whats the additive for?
grsthegreat
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i just had the formula ready to post.....see you already have it. good job
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Looks like a winter anti gel addative and wonder juice for injectors.
I have used off road diesel Supreme in my tractors for 20 years with no addatives and no problems.. I asked the delivery truck man a few times over the years if I needed an addative like that. He always says it is a waste of money because they take care of the season blending at the bulk plant. I have had partial tanks that run from cold to hot season and visa-versa with no problems. What they are doing is ok but in my opinion diesel is expensive
enough these days without adding something else to my blue tractors.
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It's not just the seasonal blend...new diesel is very low in sulphur (the "S" in ULSD). Sulphur provides upper cylinder lubricity. Low sulphur fuel can be tough on the valve seats.
That, and biocides are why I use additives. Cheap protection, IMHO.
Gotta admit, I have learned something on this thread! I always just dumped the additive in prior to refueling the tank (I never let my tank get below 1/4). That pre-mixing big e brought up is a dern fine idea and I'm going start doing that.
Roy,
I use Power Products stuff. I always wondered about using summer fuel in the winter, more kerosene in the winter fuel? I have a regular routine, when I get my cans filled I keep them in one spot until I add the Power Product conditioner then I move them in with the rest of the full cans. Frankly I don't use that much additive or fuel so it seems pretty cheap.
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There is an anti-gelling additive of some sort...don't know if it's kerosene or what.
The anti-gel is another reason I use an additive, BTW...
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I use either Kleen Flo One shot or Howes year round.
That's a good point Roy. I am not suggesting they don't use it.
I use a gasoline additive in my generator and other equip that is occassional or seasonal.
Diesel supreme, according to my delivery man, is exactly the same stuff he delivers to homes that have oil furnaces. So I don't know what the sulphur content is, but it has worked fine for me, and what is available here in bulk.
No smoke from the stacks.
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Anything that I fill with a five gallon can gets additive. Boat gets additive too but just dumped in before filling!
PILOON
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I have had gelled fuel occur a couple of times and clearing the lines changing the filter in finger numbing temps is reason enough to always add additive to my fuel.
The cost of additive is minor compared to frozen fingers.
Besides I suffer from Renaud's syndrome.
The cost of additive is minor compared to frozen fingers.
Besides I suffer from Renaud's syndrome.
That's a good idea Glen. I think what I'll do is put the additive in when the can is empty so it's ready for the refill.
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1*Summer fuel has no kerosene in it .
My Kubota manual says to use winter fuel at
temperatures below 14 degrees .
It very seldon gets down to 14 degrees here so i can get by with either fuel so I just run what ever i have on hand at the time.
2* Winter fuel is just summer fuel with some kerosene
added to it.
3* YA might could say that.
4*They take care of winter gelling and the lube issue both.
I might add that sulphur is not a lubricant so is not need nor desired.
5*I do the same with this
6* YeahI agree.
7*Which is great as it serves no useful purpose.
8*It does not because it is not a lubrican't .
9*Not really so.
10*That's what winter fuel is= summer fuel with some kerosene added to it.
11*Ain't that the truth.
12*And the same as anything delivered to gas stations truck stops farms construction sites etc.
13*All fuel is now ULSD.
No matter where you buy it for or what you use it for or in .
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Gotta disagree with you:
Another reason ULSD has been blamed for premature fuel system and engine wear is due to its low sulfur content. At 15 ppm (out of 1 million parts, just 15 can be sulfur), ULSD contains only a fraction of the sulfur concentration found in the previously used low-sulfur diesel (LSD), which was roughly 500 ppm. And since sulfur acts as a lubrication agent in diesel fuel, ultra-low sulfur content in ULSD is thought to be one of the main suspects in causing fuel-related problems in pre-2007 diesels, which were designed to run primarily on LSD.
Read more: http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/ford/0911dp_fuel_additive_test/viewall.html#ixzz1cNm2wCM3
Read more: http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/ford/0911dp_fuel_additive_test/viewall.html#ixzz1cNm2wCM3
The entire article is here:
Fuel Additive Test - Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel - Diesel Power Magazine
I didn't start using additives for anti-gelling (always depended on the winter blends for that) That's a benefit though.
I started using additives when articles started popping up about problems resulting from ULSD in pre-2007 diesel engines. My dealer's techs have also mentioned problems with older Deere tractors with what they called "dry head" or "dry cylinder head" resulting in premature valve problems.
