Will a ratchet rake ..........

[NTrotty]

I have a kubota B2320, have many cedar stumps cut low to the ground, most cut 2 seasons ago, would a ratchet rake 48", on my loader pull those stumps up? They range from 3" to 6" maximum diameter.

Or just rent a stump grinder.

 

[ishiboo]

I doubt it unless you're in a swamp. I'd dig them out with a backhoe or excavator, or if you could get traction you could try pulling them out with a chain on a truck.

Never underestimate roots.

 

[rekees4300]

Ratchet Rake is not made for stumps that big. Rent a stump grinder or buy a new device from the Ratchet Rake people called a "Rip and Dig".

http://www.ratchetrake.com/images/rip_and_dig_brochure.pdf

 

[jeff9366]

One inch Cedars, YES. Three to six inch Cedars, NO.

Rent the stump grinder.

 

[muddywater]

my wife hit a four inch ceader with a 68 buick and pushed the motor back 3 feet, hitting the front seat.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Cedar trees have the most extensive and hardest to pull out root systems of any tree (maybe a thorn tree is comparable). You would need a backhoe to dig them out. Before I got my back hoe, I was using my LS P7010 with FEL to dig out a 8" diameter cedar. I had to dig a deep hole around it and use a chain to pull it out. It was all the 70 HP machine wanted to get it out and then had to pull some individual roots out. I wouldn't recommend tackling them with anything less than a back hoe. Never seen cedar grown in a swamp so I think you would be on a ridge and in hard ground so it isn't going to be easy.

 

[Bdavis]

I have a kubota B2320, have many cedar stumps cut low to the ground, most cut 2 seasons ago, would a ratchet rake 48", on my loader pull those stumps up? They range from 3" to 6" maximum diameter.

Or just rent a stump grinder.

Rent the grinder, I have a 72 inch RR on my 45 hp Mahindra. I cut an area full of saplings 3 seasons ago.The saplings were mostly gum, pine and a few oaks. I still can't push the gums around (3- 6 inch). (everything else is pretty easy) . This past winter - I just used the boot method to remove all the rest of the pines - one good kick- and they would go flying.
I know the cedar would be even more difficult than the gums. I got my stumps old staked out and ready
for my stump grinder guy.

 

[Xfaxman]

Cedar trees have the most extensive and hardest to pull out root systems of any tree (maybe a thorn tree is comparable). You would need a backhoe to dig them out. Before I got my back hoe, I was using my LS P7010 with FEL to dig out a 8" diameter cedar. I had to dig a deep hole around it and use a chain to pull it out. It was all the 70 HP machine wanted to get it out and then had to pull some individual roots out. I wouldn't recommend tackling them with anything less than a back hoe. Never seen cedar grown in a swamp so I think you would be on a ridge and in hard ground so it isn't going to be easy.

Must be different than the cedars on my place. Up to 5" come out easily with the tree puller. :thumbsup:

This one was harder!

Here is the link on getting it out: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/277824-tree-puller.html#post3444397

 

[Xfaxman]

I have a kubota B2320, have many cedar stumps cut low to the ground, most cut 2 seasons ago, would a ratchet rake 48", on my loader pull those stumps up? They range from 3" to 6" maximum diameter.

Or just rent a stump grinder.

A a ratchet rake is too wide. You need a narrow stump bucket.


Or something like this on the 3 point.

 

[Sysop]

Must be different than the cedars on my place. Up to 5" come out easily with the tree puller. :thumbsup:

This one was harder!
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Here is the link on getting it out: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/277824-tree-puller.html#post3444397

Agreed, the 4-5" cedar stumps around my place seem to pop up pretty easy after being cut at ground level, a 1" hole poked about 5" down in the centers, and left a while to die. First one I used the backhoe on, but it popped out so easy when repositioning the tractor I hit the others with the FEL edge and lifted as I moved forward popping them loose easily. A couple I had to take two stabs at to break them totally free, but it was the easiest method I found on mine considering I didn't need to change to the backhoe for each one, and the tractor didn't need turned around to have the FEL bucket near to roll them into (was a tight area so it was something to be considered).

OP: I also agree a rake isn't going to do it. A heavy duty box blade may.

 

[jeff9366]

Xfaxman:

For a tractor like my B3300SU/33-hp/1,900 pounds, do you think a narrow stump bucket on the FEL, or a Brush Boss on the 3-Pt. is the better tool?

Does your "Brush Boss" have rear hydraulic tilt?

Is the "Brush Boss" still in production? No web site for Harkness-Hayporter.

In principle, I like the idea of tree removal by a tool on robust 3-Pt. hitch, rather than the FEL.

 

[Xfaxman]

Xfaxman:

For a tractor like my B3300SU/33-hp/1,900 pounds, do you think a narrow stump bucket on the FEL, or a Brush Boss on the 3-Pt. is the better tool? I think the 3 point would have more lift.

Does your "Brush Boss" have rear hydraulic tilt? No.

Is the "Brush Boss" still in production? No web site for Harkness-Hayporter. I couldn't find anything when I looked earlier.

In principle, I like the idea of tree removal by a tool on robust 3-Pt. hitch, rather than the FEL.

Do you have anything like this for your 3 point?

You can add a ripper tooth or a scarifier or something to grab a stump.

3 Shank Scarifier - OMNI Mfg LLC

 

[jeff9366]

I have that exact rig from Omni. I have considered Omni's ripper but my tractor is only 1,900 pounds.

Maybe Ratchet Rake, LLC or ETA will add something like the second generation "Brush Boss" to their line.

Maybe I need a new 'Grand L' L3650 with more FEL lift than my B3300SU.

THANKS.

LINK:

http://cnrit.tamu.edu/cgrm/IRR2/1982/Brush Boss - A New Tool For Brush Control.pdf

 

[Xfaxman]

After looking at the link I remember it did come with the hydraulic cylinder. I bought it at a farm auction about 10 years ago. I had the MF240D then, the 3 point lift was strong enough that I removed the foot and never used the cylinder.

I turned the Brush Boss around, in 4WD any cedar tree that I could run over, it would pull out.

 

[GPintheMitten]

I have the ratchet rake..its a great to for some things but not stumps bigger than bush size. Today I used the digger ripper for the first time. I just got it a couple days ago. Now that does some good digging. I would use it for those stumps for sure.

 

[rekees4300]

Thanks for the post, Have RR and been thinking of getting the Digger Ripper. Only question I have about it is how do you see what you are digging? Doesn't tractor and FEL block view?

 

[GPintheMitten]

Thanks for the post, Have RR and been thinking of getting the Digger Ripper. Only question I have about it is how do you see what you are digging? Doesn't tractor and FEL block view?

Its definitely harder to see what your doing compared to digging with just the bucket. Ill know more as I use it more but I think it will be something I can get a feel for. I tip the bucket down so I can see the front of the teeth, then stab it in and start digging. It certainly wont be as easy as a backhoe but I think for a small job it will be ok.

 

[jeff9366]

Its definitely harder to see what your doing compared to digging with just the bucket. Ill know more as I use it more but I think it will be something I can get a feel for. I tip the bucket down so I can see the front of the teeth, then stab it in and start digging. It certainly wont be as easy as a backhoe but I think for a small job it will be ok.

Here are two photos of my Bucket Spade. Once you are familiar with it visibility is NOT an issue.

 

[GPintheMitten]

Here are two photos of my Bucket Spade. Once you are familiar with it visibility is NOT an issue.

Very similar setup. Good to know. Thanks